Cosmic Disclosure: Initiation Into Secret Projects

David Wilcock: Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I am here with Emery Smith.

Since information in these classified programs is so compartmentalized and difficult to get, how do you actually achieve a level of knowledge within the classified world?

What does it take to get a security clearance? And how do you progress through these various stages and ranks to get to the good stuff?

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave.

David: So the first thing I’d like to start with is an audience question. And that is: how did you train to become a technician? What was your training? How did you get this training?

So could you please give us more information on that exactly?

Emery: Sure. And this is nothing secret or different than any other person that joins the military that picks a classification they want to go into.

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I went into surgical technology. From there, you get different classifications because you can completely continue your education with the Community College of the Air Force and their technician programs, such as after basic training, which I only had to do a few weeks of because of my prior military training as a teenager.

I was immediately shipped to Sheppard Air Force Base in Wichita Falls, Texas.

And from there, I went through an extensive training of surgical technology and also surgical first assisting.

From there, you get deployed to another area, such as I was deployed to an air transportable hospital at England Air Force Base, Louisiana.

And that’s one of these places where out of just a couple C-130s, we can drop down a whole hospital, have it ready to go in 24 hours anywhere in the world.

So that was my training just for the basics of the surgical technology, and that’s where I learned a lot of this and trained under many great physicians.

And from there, I went to Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque, New Mexico and trained through the hospital system there.

You’re always in training, so you know. There’s always new things coming out. There’s always new techniques.

A good example of this is just doing CPR. And CPR last year and the year before . . . it keeps changing. Maybe it’s a different amount of breaths or a different amount of chest compressions.

So you have to be allocated and get your CMEs accredited for doctors and nurses and all medical people. It’s an ongoing, continuing education program.

So for me, it was great because I’m high energy, and I wanted to learn more and more and more. And the Air Force just kept feeding it to me.

David: So given that this was obviously very intensive training, did you also receive knowledge that would not be given to people if they went to a university?

Emery: That’s absolutely correct. The things that I have learned through the military-industrial complex and the military itself – because I was doing both civilian and military work at the same time I was on active duty – the types of training and education is not available to the general public, okay? And that’s because of these different types and compartmentalized programs that I was working with.

You HAD to get additional training. You had to take different courses and things with electromagnetics and sciences, even with medicine, that were not out yet.

And I’ve noticed that usually after five or 10 years, some of these things would go out, like harmonic scalpels. They were using that in the early ’80s, and it really didn’t come forward until the early ’90s. and then it became mainstream.

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David: In a previous episode, you mentioned that you had some kind of high school program that started you in the military.

Emery: Sure, yep.

David: So could you delineate for us: how old were you when you got into the military? And how long did it take before you started to get invited into secret projects?

Emery: The first thing I joined was Civil Air Patrol at the age of 13. It’s an auxiliary to the Air Force. It’s in many, many communities. It’s not a secret.

Now, during Civil Air Patrol, I also took Army ROTC. And that’s just a normal thing that’s in most high schools.

And so I had a really good affinity for the Army, because during the four years, I did a lot of encampments. Some of these are two weeks to a month long.

Some of the survival missions of the Civil Air Patrol could be up to a week long in very desolate areas of the world. And they teach you things, like I said, first aid and search and rescue.

So search and rescue is the biggest thing: how do you utilize an ELT, Emergency Locating Transmitting device, which is located in every aircraft in the tail section and also every boat.

David: At what point did you start to encounter information that was classified enough that it would really trip people out if they hadn’t already ever heard about this before?

Emery: Probably my sophomore year. We all take these tests called the ASVAB test [Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery test].

David: Right.

Emery: It gives you job placement in the military. But I was getting additional ASVABs, where I had to travel to MacDill Air Force Base and take a test every weekend.

My Army ROTC commander says this is just additional things they ask for some people. And actually, I thought maybe I didn’t do good on the ASVAB, but it wasn’t. It actually . . . Later on, I found out that these are tests additionally they test children with to measure their consciousness and collective state.

David: So what did these tests lead to if you got positive results? Did you end up in a briefing? Did somebody hand you a stack of documents?

Emery: Nothing really was strange up until I went to England Air Force Base, my first duty assignment in Alexandria, Louisiana, right next to Fort Polk Army Base.

And then from there, it was really interesting that, “Oh, my gosh. You’re now being assigned to Kirtland Air Force Base – out of nowhere.” And everybody else went somewhere else – all my other colleagues and airmen.

And THAT’S where things started taking off – when I went to Kirtland. And I had a really great feeling about this move.

So I was excited to get out of the swamp, get into the mountains in the higher atmosphere.

David: Did somebody give you like a knowing look or a wink or a pat on the shoulder?

Emery: Yeah. They treated me at Kirtland Air Force Base a lot better than they did at England Air Force Base. And I knew there was something going on, because when I went there, I immediately was in charge, directly and indirectly, of maybe 30 different technicians . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . and surgical specialists, because I already had a lot of experience. And the next thing you know is when they approached me and said . . . one of the commanders there approached me and said, “Hey, we have additional things that you could work on if you want – additional trainings and additional education, if you’d like. And we would actually allow you to leave work early to do these things.” And so I did.

And some of these were just trauma training, air evac training, flight medicine, things like this.

And that’s how I knew right away, “Wow! This is going to be a really great opportunity for me not only to get more ribbons but to get promoted faster and be part of other compartmentalized programs.”

And that’s when they came to me and asked me, after I did another additional training, “Would you like to moonlight for this new wing of the military that has to do with harvesting organs?”

And I was, of course, more than welcome to sign that paper because I wanted, of course, to be more financially stable. You don’t get paid anything in the military, as you know. And it was easy for me to . . .I had so much energy, it was easy for me to start a job at 6:00 p.m. and work to 1:00 a.m. and then get back up at 4:00 a.m. and be at work at 5:00 p.m. and do this over and over. [Emery may have meant 5:00 a.m..]

I was in great shape back then, because I was working out two hours a day, and the training alone was amazing.

And a lot of neat travel was involved with these things, having to go to different Air Force bases, like Holloman Air Force Base and White Sands Missile Range and some others that I won’t talk about.

And it just opened up, I think, the area for me to slip into this compartmentalized program. And that’s when I realized I was not going to be doing organ harvesting on soldiers.

David: So you described in previous episodes that the original nine months of your time doing these autopsies were kind of boring little squares or rectangles of tissue.

Emery: Correct.

David: So did anybody ever actually give you a briefing? Because a lot of the insiders I’ve spoken to . . . let me just say the context.

They get sat down at some point. They get shown weird films, or they get told things. Or they are given a huge stack of paper to read. And that’s a commonality in a lot of these stories.

So I’m wondering, if you’re getting these little squares of tissue, had you been given any of that kind of a briefing before that made you at all anticipate that this might be something weird?

Emery: It really wasn’t until maybe six or nine months into the program where I started getting special classes, we’ll say, and instruction that in order for you to work in a different operating room or a different area or different wing, you would have to go through these training instruction courses.

And it would cover things. And the word I did hear was “tissue other than Earth origin”.

David: They used that term?

Emery: Yes, they did.

David: Really?

Emery: And that’s how I knew later on what was really taking place here. Whether it was true or not, the stuff I was working on definitely did not look like any type of human bodily material or fluid by far.

David: Were these no-questions briefings? Or were you able to interact with someone who was telling you things?

Emery: Once every two weeks, you would get an actual briefing from a head scientist or a commander.

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But most instructions – like as far as getting upgraded to go somewhere else and you have to take different courses through them, which are very short courses anywhere from two to three hours of the things that you might encounter or work on – definitely pointed into the direction of extraterrestrial genetics and DNA and tissues.

David: Well, I know when I was in college and a good friend of mine had his physics professor, the head of the department, tell him NASA KNEW we were not alone, that the Roswell crash was real, that it was common knowledge in the higher echelons, that he worked there in the 1970s.

My mind exploded with questions. I read 300 books in the last three years I was in school, so 100 books a year – two books a week – all on this kind of stuff.

I would imagine – at least if you were me – the fire of curiosity that would have been ignited in your mind, the desire to just want to interrogate: “What do you mean tissue of non-Earth origin? Where are they from? What kind of craft did they come in? What’s their agenda? Are they trying to kill us? Are they trying to help us? Are they the gods that we see in the Sumerian cuneiform tablets?”

Emery: Right.

David: Did you ask these kind of questions?

Emery: Absolutely not, because I would not be part of the program if I did at that early of a stage.

David: Really?

Emery: Later on, it was a little different. They got a little bit more lax after you’ve been with them for three years.

Things are very more lackadaisical where the team will share with you information like, “We’ve heard it came from this system. We heard . . . you know, because we’ve seen this before with our prior notes from 10 or 20 years ago because of these different types of rivets – you know, I’m just saying for an example – or these types of mechanics or these types of energies.

Especially frequencies was their big thing – monitoring frequencies of DNA cells, craft and all this. And THAT is how they were building their encyclopedia of all these different tissue samples, all these different extraterrestrial beings.

So it was very captivating. And, yes, for me, it was addictive. I was addicted to it. I WANTED to go to work. I WANTED to see the next thing. I WANTED to ask questions but couldn’t, but hoped maybe I would be brought onto another program through working on this being, that since I worked on it and was comfortable with it, that they would show me the craft it came in, you know, things like this.

David: Did they ever make mistakes? Did they accidentally let you know something that they didn’t really want you to know?

Emery: Always. Constantly.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: Like what would be a mistake?

Emery: A mistake would be to have the technicians in a meeting where the meeting was really just for the managers of that body or of that device or of that craft.

So there were many times where they cut the meeting short, and we would have to leave the room, and the people that were running that operating room or that piece of equipment or extraterrestrial autopsy would be informed of many more things of information, such as later on I found out where they came from, like what exact planet they came from, what system they came from. Are they dimensional, interdimensional? Are they the five-star, and why is that?

David: The human shape with the head, two arms, two legs.

Emery: The human shape. And if not, why aren’t they five-star? Because they were maybe developed by these ETs.

There were many ETs that we found that had pets with them and extraterrestrial pets that we later coined and were trying to put a species to that . . . a separation. And they’re also from the same system.

And there were actually extraterrestrials that had a species that were transporting LARGE beings, but they were not extraterrestrials. They were like . . . We would see elephants and things like this . . . that they did not come from their system.

So maybe they were poaching these things or bringing them back or whatnot. I couldn’t elaborate.

Because until you get to that level to know almost everything, you really have to be in there a very long time. And I, unfortunately, left at a very early time.

David: So let’s try to delve in a little bit more to the, if you will, hierarchy of a place like Kirtland Air Force Base where things started to get interesting for you.

Obviously, you end up getting deeply enmeshed in this system of clearance, classification, access, what doors does your key card open, or whatever kind of thing it is you have there.

So could you kind of break down for us: what are the different tiers, the different levels of clearance? And could there be people on the base who have no frickin’ idea what’s really going on there?

Emery: Absolutely. People have to understand, too, on the base, when people are like, “Well, he’s on Kirtland Air Force Base” . . . and Sandia Lab Base is on Kirtland Air Force Base. It has its own security and everything.

And all those sublevels down there are also contracted out by many different corporations of the military-industrial complex. So it’s not United States Air Force doing this.

David: Right.

Emery: We’re the security for that facility.

And the Army is the security for that facility on Army bases. They DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING of what’s going on in there.

They know it’s top secret. They know it could be harmful if any of the information got out. It could be detrimental to Americans. We could lose a HUGE rocket program just if the information got out to our enemies.

So there’s different classifications of who owns these different types of levels of laboratories and whatnot and the different testing going on.

Now, getting back to what you just said, it’s usually three to four months when you’re working with these types of programs, through my experience only with medical, that you would have to really stick to the rules and regulations, which are really basic at first.

You can’t talk to anybody. You can’t tell anybody. You’re not allowed to be on any types of drugs or alcohol. You can’t . . . You’re tested every two weeks.

So there’s like these restrictions for me at that time that it was a really great shoe-in, because I didn’t have to do anything. All I had to do was show up. All I had to do was work and then leave.

And after every four months, you get one up. It’s called a “one up”. And “one up” means you’re going to get another security clearance if they do a report on you that you did what you’re supposed to do. And background checks constantly – everything.

If you get pulled over for a speeding ticket, you best be on the phone and let them know. You have to tell them within six to eight hours if anything that you did was wrong, if you got arrested or got a speeding ticket – just little things – or if you’re not getting along with your commander with your active duty job, any little things, or if you’re getting harassed by active duty members, which I was getting harassed because they didn’t understand why I was only working 75% of the shift. But I was being pulled into other compartmentalized programs.

They would sometimes base it off of an injury to tell the commanders, because they were really tight, but the commanders don’t know. All they know is . . . like one of my buddies. He was pulled out because he spoke a couple different languages. So his excuse to work in these programs was he was a linguistics expert. So they would do these things.

And they would actually lie to my military non-commissioned officer saying, “Well, we need him because he has to decipher this because he was Polish or he was German or Russian.”

And so they were really good about getting around it. And then no one really asked after a while.

David: You brought up lying, and that made me think of something else. If you have Air Force and Army soldiers essentially working security knowing something top secret is going on but not knowing what it is, was there some type of disinformation that was planted to them to satisfy their curiosity but might not have been anywhere near as interesting as what it really was?

Emery: They would do that if they suspected someone was starting . . . you know, someone was leaking information. Absolutely. As soon as information is leaked or they see security guards talking or inappropriate talking on the radios or cell phones or mobiles, they would immediately send out a disinformation campaign and then wrap it up by the end of the week saying, “Oh, that was just because of this, this or this.”

But then it would really get everyone’s energy . . . “Oh, my goodness. This thing was there. We saw it, and it escaped.”

But no, it really didn’t, because this was just someone’s pet tiger that we had in there that was used for testing drugs on.

You know, these weird things would happen all the time, so they would really try to hide it.

And if there was actually a person that visualized something, then they would end up being killed.

David: So do you think that these Army and Air Force personnel had any ability to even imagine what they were actually sitting on?

Emery: No. No. They’re young cadets, young soldiers, that are just waiting to get off shift so they can go work out or have a good time. They kept it like that for a good reason.

And they would not be debriefed on anything – the soldiers that were checking you in, the soldiers that were allowing you to go through the gate. Absolutely not.

David: You mentioned clearances going one up every four months. Could you give us some idea of what those clearances are? Let’s get a little bit more specific about that. Like are there . . . Is it an alphanumeric code? Is there a name for it?

Emery: Yeah. I mean, there’s a lot of pop culture stuff you see online – people talking about different things, people are referring to me as, “He had ‘umbra classification’”, which is an old term we don’t use anymore.

And now it’s more like levels of, numeric levels of, Alpha 22, Beta 17. And they have a whole slew of that.

And all those refer to different types of bases and different types of work you do.

You know, I made up to level Alpha 22, and that’s all I know. There was no pop culture term back then for that. I was just an A22.

David: The letters corresponded to a particular base?

Emery: To a particular unit within the base.

David: Oh!

Emery: So there might be energy testing, aircraft testing, biological testing, all these different things. And the first letter doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a letter that when you came in, this is where your program is. And it can change.

It actually could change to a different letter and different number if you got transferred to another base or a different project.

For me, I was pretty consolidated because all my stuff was medical, and I kind of stayed with that.

I did get to work on some aircraft, but more like taking specimens from aircraft, not learning the propulsion systems of those aircraft.

David: So an A22 in one base could be completely different than an A22 in another base.

Emery: No, it’s standard in North America.

David: Oh, it is?

Emery: Yeah. It’s different than Europe and Australia. They have their own thing. But you would have clinicians, physicians, and extraterrestrials in your base that were from these bases. And they had different markings and different codes and names.

David: So would you wear something that said “A22”?

Emery: No. No. It’s on your band.

David: Right.

Emery: Remember the band?

David: You mentioned the band before.

Emery: Everything’s on the band.

David: So they might not want other people on the base to know what your rank is.

Emery: No! That’s a really bad thing because you could trick someone into telling you something if they thought you were classified.

David: Oh!

Emery: Yes, and that would be really bad, and that has happened.

David: Wow!

Emery: And they have . . . Yeah, they didn’t make it.

David: What you’re describing here is so seemingly fantastic that for most people watching the show, this would be only approachable as science fiction.

Maybe they want to believe you, but something holds them back from really accepting that this is true.

Now for me, the scope of what you’re saying, the complexity of what you’re saying, that’s when I know somebody is real, because you can’t make that up. It’s too dense.

What you’re talking about here . . . clearly you’re giving up some things. You’re sacrificing some things.

You’re sacrificing the ability to talk to people about this. You can’t even have friends. Like, you don’t get to ask questions.

So could you explain some of the sacrifices that you’ve been through in this amazing environment?

Emery: The technology that I was working on and the different projects that I was included in can cure the world’s water problem. It can clean up Fukushima in seven days. It can get all that trash off the coast of China, Japan – hundreds of acres of this stuff.

And personally, myself with my family coming down with cancer, let’s say – my mother. This could have all been avoided if they would just release this information.

So I came to a point after working on zero-point energy devices and getting one to actually operate and getting it validated by a few laboratories that my life started getting threatened. And it wasn’t because of the extraterrestrial stuff.

It was because I was possibly . . . they thought maybe I was going to bring something out to the public without the knowledge of them.

So I’m very compassionate about getting this stuff out. And I really thought and feel that my life is in a little bit of danger with all the threats going on and the phone calls and the constant harassment. You can’t have a normal life like this.

Your family is at jeopardy. Your wife is at jeopardy. Your friends are at jeopardy. People don’t want to be associated with you.

My colleagues through many of my major corporations turned on me because they didn’t want to . . . even though I’m a 50% owner of a corporation, they just stood back and said, “We don’t want this to reflect on the corporation’s belief system” – that extraterrestrials exist and zero-point energy and all these crazy things . . . unless they’re making billions of dollars off it.

So it shows that they’re just so non-integrous people that are looking at just to make money off certain things and don’t want anything to do with it.

And there’s people that are just . . . They feel that if they’re associated with me that they . . . you know, their lives would put at risk.

So it’s a lot of weight to carry on your shoulders, but I’m not stopping just because someone’s harassing me or someone’s trying to kill me.

I get all these remarks online. There’s a couple of people that don’t agree. You don’t have to agree. I’m not telling you to agree.

I’m telling you my story. I’m telling it truthfully, and I’m telling you: go out for yourself and find out, because it’s the only way you’re really going to believe it. And that’s what I did.

David: Well, I want to thank you for your bravery in coming forward like this.

Something flashed in my head as you were talking, and that is going back to the base, and we were talking about sacrifices.

I’m curious if there was ever a scene where, for example, a guy comes up to you, and he really shouldn’t be talking to you. And he’s all nervous, and he’s looking around. And he’s telling you something that he shouldn’t.

Did something like that ever happen, or was it so locked down that it was impossible?

Emery: Well, after being in there over many years, people do start to open up. We start knowing, okay, this person has been here this long. They obviously are not going to say the wrong thing, or they’ll be able to hold a secret.

And you’re still not allowed to fraternize with anybody from any . . . You know, you can’t be a friend of someone. You can’t date someone in this lab. It’s really that strict.

David: Well, Emery, I really want to thank you for what you’re doing here. The promise of where this technology can take us as a world I think makes it worth it for both of us to put our lives on the line for this show.

And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with David Wilcock and our guest, Emery Smith.


Cosmic Disclosure: Suppressed Medical Technologies

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode and our guest, Emery Smith.

Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Well, thank you, David, and Gaia, for having me again.

David: And Corey, thanks for being here.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we’re going to get into suppressed technology in this episode, which is a vast subject. And we’re going to focus in to some degree on medical things, but also just beyond that as well.

So we interviewed William Tompkins before his death, and he talked about some very strange stuff.

He felt like if you could live just a few more years that things would come out that would allow you to live much, much, much longer.

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Emery: So there’s a medical corporation out there and a spine surgeon who has invented this A2M alpha-2-macroglobulin protein.

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And what they did is they get this protein from your blood. It’s in your blood.

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And it’s a protease inhibitor, so it stops all inflammation once you concentrate it and inject it into the body, into your joints or whatnot.

What they found out is they were able to regenerate articular cartilage, which is the cartilage that lies under your joint in the bone. So it’s not bone on bone.

David: In the knee, you’re saying?

Emery: Yeah, in the knee. So here’s your knee right here. And then between that, that’s all covered with articular cartilage.

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And Corey knows this very well because he’s getting one of these procedures done very soon.

And what happens is that grinds away after a while and tenocytes, which are cells in the articular cartilage, are the hardest thing in the world to regenerate because there’s barely any blood going to it.

So that’s why we have all these knee problems and joint problems.

But by putting this A2M protein in there and reducing the inflammation, it seems to heal itself and regenerate.

Now, I’ve been able to regenerate tissue forever in the mil labs [military laboratories] and in modern day science, but what I was NEVER able to do was to anti-age a cell.

And guess what: one of the side effects they found out of doing this study was that it actually anti-aged tenocytes – THE HARDEST CELL TO EVEN REPLICATE. It anti-aged it!

So what that means for us is . . . And what this physician is doing is he’s actually going on now and he made a recombinant form of it, which means they have a synthetic form of the exact same molecular structure of the actual protein in your body.

So this is going to be off the shelf. So instead of buying like aspirin to get rid of your headache, you’re going to reach up and get some A2M.

Or you’re going to get this . . . Instead of taking human growth hormone and all these replacement therapies, you’re going to be taking A2M.

And that’s going to help systemically anti-age other cells. Because if I can anti-age a tenocyte, the hardest cell in the world, then there’s no problem of anti-aging all the other cells, [which] is what I’m getting at.

Corey: Well, how are you judging the age of a cell?

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Is it by the amount of degradation in the telomeres?

Emery: Yes.

Corey: Okay. So is this a type of telomere therapy?

Emery: Well, right now it’s so new, Corey. This is the first study that came out that showed this, which it wasn’t even about that. But they found out it does do this stuff.

So I can’t say because I don’t know yet. I haven’t seen any additional information other than that, but I would assume that’s the only way you could test.

Corey: Okay. Have you seen anything about the small eddies created by the gravitational field that causes aging, [which] along with cosmic radiation, is what basically kills us and causes us to age?

Emery: Right. The only reason we age is because of this radiation from the Sun.

Corey: And the gravitational force . . .

Emery: And the gravitational force.

Corey: . . . which creates time.

Emery: Right. And time . . . that’s a whole other story.

Corey: Right.

Emery: I was working on a classified project up in the New York area, about 30 minutes south of New York, and there was a device in there, a Teslatron unit, they called it.

And I can’t get into specifics of it, but it was a type of time machine distortion-type thing that used Tesla energy to cure people of inflammation and diseases like HIV and herpes and whatnot.

And they’re very successful with it.

It was reserved only for the elite and the politicians of our current realm here in the United States. If they come down with some diseases that were inappropriate, they can go down here [and] get zapped.

And that unit was also anti-aging people. Because when you get in there for an hour and sit down in this room, it might feel like 15 minutes but you’ve been in there for an hour.

And you take stopwatches in with you. There’s a stopwatch locked in your locker. You have one. And that definitely shows and proves that you’ve been actually gone for a while, but you don’t feel like that. And time DOES get distorted in there.

And you also lose weight and lose toxins and whatnot.

And I’d like to get more into that, but that’s kind of a classified project right now. But that IS going to be available for the public in about a year.

So that’s a new thing that’s coming out that people are going to be able to look forward to.

David: Well, since our focus on this show is the Secret Space Program and the greater reality that we’re learning about, William Tompkins was so excited about these life extension pills because he claimed to have met with beings that pretty much looked like us but lived a lot longer than we did.

What do you know about those types of beings, if anything?

Emery: Yeah, those beings, in their genetic DNA profile and also just in their bodies, have a way to reflect ultraviolet radiation and other electromagnetic fields and gravitational forces. And this is how they do it.

And by doing that . . . If we had that capability, we would also live a lot longer.

And that’s why things in the past, in prehistoric times, grew to just unimaginable sizes because the atmosphere was so much thicker and not all that light was coming through.

Plus, there were lightning storms and thunderstorms that could be years long. And guess what happens when lightning hits the water . . .

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: . . . you create the Fourth State of Water. Secret!

David: Hm.

Emery: And guess what happens when you drink that water – mega plants. I’m talking BIG tomatoes.

So these things right now are available for us to get healed, like this Fourth State of Water I’m talking about.

So we have lots of technology that is suppressed, and we have a lot of technology that’s not. Because what happens is, as a device manufacturer myself, you come out and you create something and you patent it.

And as soon as I send it in, the FDA says, “No, no. No, do it again”. Or your patents get refused.

Because you can’t just patent anything, especially medically, that’s going to help someone.

You could say it does this: “Well it just concentrates growth factors.” Well, that’s okay.

“Don’t claim that it concentrates growth factors that you’re going to put in someone’s elbow and stop their arthritis because then you’re messing with the pill company. So we don’t want to do that.”

So you can only say so much. So what I do is I create medical devices that just do certain things biologically. “Oh, it concentrates this cell or this protein.”

Then I give it to the doctor – I give it to you, Dave – and I say, “Hey, it may or may not work for you. This is what it does. Let me know how you like it.”

Then they come back to me. “Man, I can’t believe what it did! It healed this wound in two weeks. We couldn’t heal it in 12 months.”

I’m like, “Wow, that’s fantastic. I never knew that could have happened. Why don’t you write a white paper on it and publish it at a major university and let me know.”

So this is how I got to this point with the advice on medical devices and with a huge roadblock with the government and the FDA and other governing bodies.

It was very, very difficult, very hard.

David: Let me ask you kind of a pointed question. A lot of these so-called elites really look almost like Sith lords out of “Star Wars” or something. They don’t look healthy. You can kind of see on them that there’s something really wrong.

So if they have access to all this great technology, then why don’t they look beaming and radiant and young and beautiful?

Emery: Maybe it’s by choice or maybe someone is controlling them.

Corey: Yeah, the true elites are not the ones that we think we have the names of. That’s for certain.

Emery: That’s right. I mean, they’re puppets, too, and people don’t realize this. And Corey gets it.

But these things . . . These people even on the elite side . . . There’s always something else going on that you’re not aware of. And everyone has dirt on everybody, and things are happening up at that echelon that are probably just too much to get into right now on this show.

Corey: And I’ve heard also . . . We were talking about the avatar technology, using electromagnetic fields to push people into clones or back into their bodies. I’ve heard a tale of some of these people: when they’re in public, they get pushed into their sick bodies.

When they’re not in public, they get pushed into an avatar body.

David: Oh, wow! Corey, one of the things that seems relevant to all this is this very bizarre experience that you have had with a type of age regression.

And I don’t know if Emery is familiar with this aspect or not, so this is a great opportunity for us to kind of drop this live and just see how it goes.

So why don’t you tell us a little about that.

Corey: Right. Other than the fact that I’ve been talking to 8′ tall blue birds, this is another part of my testimony where people are just like, “Phlusp, I can’t deal with this!”

Emery: Right

Corey: The fact that in the 20-and-Back programs . . . It’s kind of like a stitch in time. They pull you out of this timeline, and for 20 years, you serve, you know, . . . the 20 years.

At the end of that 20 years, you’re brought back to the LOC. You’re given a debrief . . .

David: Which is Lunar Operations Command.

Emery: Right.

Corey: Lunar Operations Command. You’re debriefed, you’re chemically blank slated, and then through pharmaceutical means, they take you . . . They put you on a gurney. They sedate you first.

They put all of these foam things all around you and Velcro you down so you can’t move, . . .

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Emery: Uh huh.

Corey: . . . and then they give you an IV. And the IV is a pharmaceutical method of reversing your age, and it takes about two weeks. They put you in a chemical coma for about two weeks as the pharmaceutical is regressing you back to a certain age.

And at that point, then they take the age regressed you and send you back through time by putting you into this huge MRI-looking machine where the bed slides out.

It’s like . . . An MRI is this big [Corey holds his hands about 6” apart to show comparison], and you slide in and out of it. This one’s like an 8′ long MRI-looking machine [Corey holds his hands about 12” apart, which means the MRI he’s referring to is much longer than a standard MRI] that the bed slides out of.

Once you’re regressed pharmaceutically, they then put you inside this device, and it turns on and brings you back into the same device but 20 years earlier on the LOC.

Have you heard of any pharmaceutical therapy that can reduce age or the work on it?

Emery: I have heard of some of this stuff in the mil labs when I was down there, but I wasn’t part of that project. But I know there were a lot of people that were part of that project, and they were definitely dumping a lot of money into that project – more than some of the stuff that we were doing.

Corey: Absolutely.

Emery: So you can see how important that was.

During some of the briefings I had, there . . . We know some of the compartments that are near us, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . and sometimes all the compartments will meet in a big meeting room once a month.

David: Oh!

Emery: And they do base-type talks, and they do small updates on what the compartments are doing. And they also talk about finances, and where money is going, and who has money, and also who needs support.

They’ll move technicians from this to come over here to help them to get this done and put this on hold.

Corey: And that’s how through compartmentalization you learn all this different information that is compartmentalized from each other, because you’re moved within these compartments.

Emery: Exactly. And that’s how I was able to do not just, you know, extraterrestrial bodies, but hybrid bodies, clones. Then I moved on to spacecraft and from there on to energetic weapons and also portal technology.

David: Was there a name for these conferences? What were they called?

Emery: Well, it’s not a conference. It’s just a base meeting.

David: Okay.

Emery: It’s a base conference meeting that they have once a month. And then you go in and everyone sits down . . .

Corey: Unit directors . . . like the compartment directors.

Emery: Oh, absolutely. And there’s about 300 people. And there’s many different meetings, so you know, because everything is split up.

I mean, I was in this medical pavilion. So that was just us. And there were about 300 members there that come to this meeting once a month.

And that’s not everybody. It’s not all the employees, by the way. It’s just the compartments that they want to debrief or tell us there’s going to be a change . . .

Corey: Gotcha.

Emery: . . . or even base changes, security changes – all sorts of stuff. And they do change things very often.

Corey: So it was in this context that the age regression therapy came up:

Emery: That’s where I found out about age regression and regenerative properties that they were working on with cellular material and chemicals.

And they were trying to reproduce neurochemicals because neurochemicals have something to do with anti-aging.

Corey: Uh hm.

Emery: But I don’t . . . I wasn’t debriefed on the scientific part of that, so I can’t answer those questions.

What I DID catch out of you, though, is you said 14 days for regeneration. And that is the key number that is used when we 3D print bodies sometimes and 3D print organs and things like that.

Because the body can only regenerate at certain levels of time, . . .

Corey: Exactly.

Emery: . . . and not many people know that.

Corey: And a certain rate.

Emery: And only 20 years? Well, hey, two weeks is not bad, because we can sometimes do bodies or limbs.

Corey: It has to do with metabolism, right? The rate of metabolism can only be pushed so far.

Emery: That’s right.

David: Well, another aspect of what he’s describing is temporal anomalies – time travel, time shifts, time slipping.

So if you were in these monthly base meetings, as you said, in this medical pavilion, were you aware of temporal research going on? Did you ever hear anything like that?

Emery: No. No, I have not. Sorry.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah. I know . . . Just from after getting out, I heard some things, but not while I was in there at all.

David: You were talking to me about this military guy who was working on a government contract, or secret government contract, for a very interesting pill.

Emery: Oh, right.

David: Could you talk to us about that?

Emery: Yeah, the limitless pill. What had happened is the astronauts and the pilots and the special forces guys were taking too many amphetamines. And it was a normal thing back in the day to take amphetamines to keep the troops going and to keep the pilots focused or the astronauts.

The problem is there are side effects to those, such as addiction, and also [they] throw off your shot because you’re shaky. And that’s not good.

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Corey: Ah huh.

Emery: So they came up with a new pill. And what it did was it allowed you to focus and be calm and be able to handle 10 things at once very accurately.

David: Hm.

Emery: It also increased delta, beta and zeta waves in the brain to help you actually remote view anywhere from six to 10 seconds into the future. So you would be ahead of the opponent if they were throwing a punch at you for sure.

Corey: And I’m sure also the inoculations we got for AI abilities were speeding up our neurology.

Emery: Right.

Corey: Our neurons . . . There is a certain amount of resistance in the neurons, and it did something to where it allowed there to be less resistance for the impulses to travel MANY times faster.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And that was good for us when we were communicating with non-terrestrials because they think MUCH quicker. That enhances their ability to have telepathic abilities.

So when they increase your neurological fire rate, they’re also increasing how quickly you can think. And you start having weird things like that, like remote viewing. You see things happen before they occur.

Emery: Right. Absolutely. Yeah, the science behind that is exactly that, speeding up neurotransmitter chemicals.

Behind this pill is actually a voltage thing.

Corey: What is it: the neurons are sodium or potassium pumps that create the resistance for electrical impulses?

Emery: Right. And by speeding up the voltage, too, and getting the voltage actually where it’s supposed to be – because everyone’s voltage is off a little bit – it creates another homeostasis in the neuro system.

And that’s what this does: it manages that and increases . . . You know, usually, people are low voltage, and they increase the voltage at a certain point and it does exactly what you said: it speeds up that signal x10.

Corey: Yes.

Emery: So imagine if you’re thinking 10 times faster than you already are right now without having an elevated heart rate, without shaking, and having 10 conversations with 10 extraterrestrials at one time.

And you’re absolutely correct with this because this is how it is.

When you communicate with an extraterrestrial telepathically, we’re trained to memorize about 100 to 150 questions. Because as soon as you see them and make eye contact, within 0.08 seconds, all your questions are answered, and you’re sitting there smiling or crying because you feel like an idiot human, and they’re just sitting there smiling and laughing back.

Because that 150 questions that I just got answered just brewed about another 1.5 million questions. Ha, ha. And then you have to wait for the next meeting.

So it’s a really dynamic thing telepathically to have communication like this.

And the great thing about it is you don’t have to worry about language barriers and things like that. And it’s all based off more of an emotional response. It comes to you emotionally.

I know that sounds weird.

Corey: Yeah. It can come in emotions, smells, tastes, sounds.

Emery: Right.

Corey: It can come in as your own inner monologue voice. It can come in as little pictures in picture frames.

Emery: Sure.

Corey: A lot of it . . . And it depends on the non-terrestrials. They will communicate in different ways.

Some of them, just like us, are more visual; some of them are more . . . you know.

Emery: Oh, right. No, I completely agree. Yeah.

David: It’s interesting to me to note that as people develop great proficiency on an instrument, like if you, for example, are a jazz improvisation musician, when you really get into the detail of how people play those solos, you have to think faster than most people do because you’re not only executing the notes that you’re playing, but you’re planning out what you’re going to do next.

And correct me if I’m wrong, but a lot of insiders have told me that musicians tend to be much more capable of being brought into these psychic, telepathic type programs.

Corey: Well, just by learning how to read music and how to compose, you’re creating different neurological pathways in the brain which gives you more bandwidth.

So yeah, you’re going to have more neurological, I guess, wiring.

Emery: Right. You create an extra crease in the brain when that happens. And that’s why we always say: when we’re looking in our brain in surgery, if it’s really wrinkly, we’re like, “Man, this guy must be pretty smart”.

David: Really?

Emery: And if it’s really smooth, that’s an insult we do to each other, “Oh, you’re such a smooth brain”, because you’re being stupid.

David: So why would the creases matter? I’m not sure I understand.

Emery: I really don’t know. I don’t even know if there’s data to back that up, but this is just an inside joke we have in compartmentalized projects.

Because especially looking at extraterrestrial brains, it’s just unreal the shapes of them, and some of them have four lobes, and they’re extremely wrinkly. Ha, ha. And it’s just an interesting thing.

So I don’t know if that’s medically a proven thing, but this is just an inside thing that I hear a lot of the docs and scientists talk about. So we adopted this as a joke.

Corey: This is a little off topic, but the brains that you’ve been looking at, do they have hemispheres?

Emery: Yes.

Corey: Okay.

Emery: There’s four hemispheres to one brain stem.

Corey: Okay. All right. I was just wondering because I know how they were studying the electromagnetic fields, the electric body, and how the brain had to have two hemispheres, at least, to be able to process the electromagnetic field in a certain way . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . and use that as like a hard drive for your memory.

Emery: Yeah. I mean, not all extraterrestrials have – just to go back – four lobes.

What I’m getting at is there’s many different kinds. And some of them also have this amazing harmonic ear type drum thing that is actually located as a disk in between the lobes.

So they are more like maybe a dolphin . . .

Corey: More of an auditory . . .

Emery: . . . or have an auditory-speech or frequency of either very low frequencies or very high frequencies, but not in the middle. And they say this is used for communication.

Corey: Yeah. What I was kind of curious [about] is: out of the brains that you were looking at, are they more similar or dissimilar? Are they pretty similar?

Emery: Well, you know, there are so many species, number one. You’re talking about an unlimited amount of species.

Corey: Right. I was just kind of wondering how they develop on different planets.

Emery: And because of planets and their gravity and the type of body they have, it usually symbolizes if they’ve ever even been on a planet. You can tell by the body.

As far as the brain goes, there’s just too many to go over.

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: It’s just incredible. That’s like asking all the brains of all the species on the planet.

Corey: Right.

Emery: It’s THAT different.

Corey: The insect brains are very different than mammal brains.

Emery: Right. But they all have the five-star look, which is the head, two arms and two legs. And the brain, though, is always different. It could be very large or very small.

We thought we had an extraterrestrial at one point and it wasn’t. It was a PLF [programmed life form] and it didn’t really have a brain. It had some other globular formation in it.

And so it’s really interesting to see how THEY make clones and PLFs, because ETs do this, too.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

Emery: They make all different kinds of things.

Corey: Especially like the Greys are standing operating hardware out there. So many different groups have been seen with these little automatons.

Emery: Yes. Yeah.

David: Well, this kind of gets into another topic we want to cover, which is the biohacking.

Now, Corey’s people in the SSP Alliance were VERY concerned about artificial intelligence and losing our genetic sovereignty to machines.

But I’m curious about what have you done – and maybe we can open this discussion up – what have you seen regarding technology interfacing with biology directly, like as an implant or as augmentation?

Emery: Well, what they have done – this is what I know 100% – is they’re using nanoparticles in the body that work with each other. And they’re infused into the body, or teletransported into the body, and it’s in your system. And you can get rid of it, but it’s in your system.

And that allows them to control you. It allows them to . . .

Corey: It’s very interesting. I was getting an update or an intel briefing, and in the programs, they’ve been trying to capture a certain type of caste of Reptilian for a while.

But if they were able to kill one, they would vaporize, disintegrate.

Emery: Yeah.

Corey: And they were finally able to create some sort of a field that would prevent them from disintegrating when they killed one. And then they did a post-mortem on it and found out that it was infested with nanites . . .

Emery: Yes.

Corey: . . . completely infested with nanites. And that’s when they really began to realize that some of the Reptilian castes worshiped an artificial intelligence god.

Emery: Right. Actually, that being was made by artificial intelligence.

Corey: Hm. I was told that it was a biological being that at a certain point in their development, just as a matter of fact, they’re all infused with this . . .

Emery: And this was Reptilian, correct?

Corey: It was a Reptilian.

Emery: For sure. There are these silos that make these creatures, and they are completely controlled. And they are not . . . They’re different than a lot of Reptilian races, but they are Reptilian.

Corey: Right. Yeah. I’ve seen the genetic Reptilians that we’ve created that are large, green, and just as scary as the real ones.

Emery: Right. Yes.

David: When you say “silo”, I’m thinking of maybe a 100′ tall cylinder of metal. What do you mean by “silo” in this case?

Emery: Oh, the shapes of these craft or permanent stations.

Corey: Like the pods.

Emery: Yes. But we’re talking very large. I mean, some of these can be up to a quarter-mile long. And it goes through . . . It’s in a cylinder because it actually starts here, and then by the time the clone gets out and infused with everything, it’s already grown to its full capacity and it’s ready for work, we’ll say.

And that was created by AI. Now, who created that AI is the question.

Corey: The intelligence goes back that this AI is so incredibly ancient, and it does not come from our reality, that it bled through another reality, and it’s wreaked havoc in many, many galaxies over time immemorial.

Emery: Right. It’s like a virus.

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: Yeah.

David: So you’re familiar with the same problem?

Emery: Yes.

David: Where specifically did you hear about the AI problem, if you can give us any details you are allowed to share?

Emery: Ah, the first time I heard about it was in the projects. They talked about an artificial intelligence that could be a threat.

And they had captured a lot of these ETs with nanites in them. And that’s how we knew, like, NO ONE would do that to their own body because it’s not a benefit to it unless it has to do with control.

And we found out through frequency generating receivers that even deep underground, it’s still receiving some sort of, within time and space, message on a frequency.

Corey: Yeah, it is a quantum entanglement type of communication. We were using that in the programs.

They would have devices that had isotopes that had been entangled, quantum entangled. And no matter where they were in time and space, you had instantaneous communications.

Emery: Right.

Corey: If they had . . . When they were first working on temporal drives, if these people happened to travel out of phase or out of time, they would be able to tell by the slight delay exactly when and where they were located.

Emery: Oh, that makes sense. Yes.

David: The AI problem in your understanding . . . I just want to see if there’s any discrepancies between what you heard and what Corey heard.

So what did you hear about the identity of the consciousness that is using machines?

Emery: We just heard that there was a threat that was AI, it was not from this dimension, and that it is now in this dimension, and it’s on the outskirts of this Solar System.

Like there’s a part of this AI, whether it’s itself or . . . because it could be everywhere.

Corey: It is everywhere.

Emery: You know what I mean? And that’s what they said. They said it could be everywhere.

Corey: It’s not local to time and space.

Emery: Right. But it had a 3D something here, craft or something on the outside of the Solar System, that they were monitoring for quite some time.

David: It had a craft?

Emery: Yeah, it was either a craft or a station of some sort on the outside of this [Solar] System.

David: Okay.

Emery: We already had satellites out there long before . . . right after Voyager and before Voyager.

Corey: Oh, yeah, we were traveling then.

Emery: So we were traveling how far along ago? Can you say a date?

Corey: Oh, back in the mid-’80s, we were already traveling to other star systems.

Emery: Right. Okay.

Corey: So we were traveling out to the Oort cloud routinely.

Emery: Exactly. So that’s how they picked up on us. And then what they found out, that frequency that emanates from that AI, from all of the ETs that they captured . . .

Corey: The AI signal.

Emery: Right. It’s the signal. That’s what they try to send back to kill it.

But anyway, what happened is all of these beings also had the same signal.

Corey: Uh huh.

Emery: So then they knew, “Oh, these are real organic beings, but they are controlled by something else – by this, as you call it, this AI.

Corey: And they can’t block the field because, like I said, it’s a quantum . . .

Emery: Right. It’s from within time and space.

Corey: Right.

Emery: So that frequency can open up, send a frequency, and it opens up wherever they want. It’s like a scalar wave; it could be anywhere.

David: All right. Now, one of the weirdest things that I ever heard that had a lot of people freaked out, . . . and I met this guy named Jacob. He was talking about an AI system that he said was underground in the Earth that was built by the bad guys and that monitors everyone’s thoughts, and that if you start to think in a direction that would lead to Disclosure, that would lead to a better planet, that it will start to make you tired, to feel anxious, to do just about anything you could to not want to read that information or watch that information anymore.

Corey: Well, that’s a part of a wider network. The Draco many, many thousands of years ago set up a network that utilizes not only the ley lines to . . . Because, you know, they had this technology in orbit, and it used line of sight. It communicated with the other satellites around, and also it communicated by broadcasting through this grid system.

And it is a mind control system and a monitoring system of the consciousness.

And I know that it’s incorporated some of our natural rocks and minerals to kind of store information like we would in a crystal.

David: Have you heard anything like that about the idea that AI could be nudging us in some way with our consciousness?

Emery: Well, I haven’t heard of that place you speak about inside the Earth. But I have heard about the mind control devices that we have on Mars and the Moon and here that send these waves down here.

And also, of course, HAARP: everyone knows about these other scalar weapons here that can send stuff.

But I didn’t know anything about receiving information from these things and being controlled by this one underground.

But those are the only ones I know about.

David: So I want to end this on a more positive note. And I think it’s really important in case people haven’t been watching all the other shows that we cover this aspect.

I have been looking at in “Wisdom Teachings” prophecies of a solar event, a Solar Flash, across like 35 different ancient cultures saying that it leads to a golden age.

And Corey, if you could bring that up for a moment about what is the Flash and how might it relate to this problem based on your information?

Corey: Sure. The way it’s been described to me, and there have been conversations recently about it, our local star cluster is traveling through a part of the galaxy that has a high energy cloud, okay?

And because of the Cosmic Web, all of the stars are connected through a thin electromagnetic tube.

And when one of these stars pushes into this heavy cloud, there is an electric feedback through all of the rest. And all of that begins to build up, and it begins to pulse through our star out to us.

David: And specifically, Corey, what did it say about that with the AI problem?

Corey: Basically, they have stated that that is when they plan on bringing a lot of these hidden technologies forward. They expect that . . . And more recently, I was told at the end of this Solar Minimum, which is like 10 or 11 years away, is when they expect this series of solar flashes.

And when this series of solar flashes occur, it is going to be basically like an EMP that’s going to destroy all the technology that the AI uses as kind of like a fish in water.

It’s going to remove all of that technology. It’s going to clean all the bioelectrical fields of the planet and the other planets because this AI signal can reside in the electrical field of a planet for thousands, millions of years until technology comes by for it to piggyback on.

So basically, this AI signal and all of the technology that the AI is utilizing is going to be wiped out.

And at that point, they’re going to bring forth all of these technologies that we’ve been able to see in the background.

Emery: Oh, beautiful.

David: Did you hear when you were in there if there was any . . . At that time, were they aware of any effective countermeasures against AI?

Emery: Yes. They were definitely weaponizing space. They were sending out more probes to that area.

And that’s just US government, not the underground projects.

Corey: Right.

Emery: They have their own agenda with it. They’d rather capture, study, bring it here, which is not good.

Corey: Well, sadly, a lot of them worship it. They’re AI prophets now.

Emery: Wow!

Corey: They’re into trans-humanism.

Emery: Right.

Corey: They see that as the Ascension, or technology ascension.

Emery: Okay. I know those people. Yeah.

Corey: But those people are going to be very disappointed, because when this Solar Flash occurs, it’s going to wipe out all of that technology, and we’re going to have an opportunity to bring in new technologies and be free of the AI signal and all of the ETs that have been controlling us.

Emery: Wow!

David: Let me make a statement about this that both you guys . . . I’d like to hear your thoughts on.

And that would be: if we go with some of the things Corey said, there’s the possibility that this AI may be almost as old as the universe.

And I’ve wondered perhaps if these solar flashes were an adaptive response of a living universe to be able to continuously cleanse this infection and keep renewing life and stop this thing from spreading.

Corey: I was told that what’s occurring with the Solar Flashes is just natural celestial mechanics.

David: Right. But there might be some intelligent design behind it . . .

Corey: Oh, yeah. Definitely.

David: . . . to defend against this ancient threat.

Corey: Right. Well, after the Solar Flash, it changes the energy of a system to where a lot of these negative beings . . . it’s not palatable for them. They can’t be in these systems.

So there could be some sort of this consciously being done, but it could also just be a part of the homeostasis of the universe.

Emery: Sure.

David: Did you ever hear anything about a solar event or the idea that we may go through some sort of rapid evolution just on a natural basis?

Emery: Yeah, not through a solar event. But I have heard of rapid ascension-type stories, but nothing to really report that I feel comfortable that is rock hard solid.

So this is kind of new for me what you’re saying, and what you’re saying about homeostasis. I mean, it all makes . . . Just by hearing this, I would speculate that there IS some sort of homeostasis on . . . because the universe IS alive, and we ARE still here. And we’re going to be here for a long time.

And we do have good ETs out there that are working against all this, and we also have the universe.

And don’t forget we ARE the universe.

David: Yeah. Well, this has been really fascinating. I want to thank both of you for being here. And I want to thank you for watching.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with Corey Goode, Emery Smith, and your host, David Wilcock.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Aliens and Vaccines

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. here with Emery Smith and Corey Goode.

So, Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thank you, Dave.

David: And, Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So I thought that we would open this one out . . . we’re going to be talking about xenobiology and some really interesting things having to do with the pharmaceutical aspects of that.

This is a story that is very strange.

So since 2000, I’ve been in contact with an insider who calls himself Walter Storch, among other names. And he has a website called

And he has a book on there with his conversations with a CIA insider named Robert Crowley. So the book is called, “Conversations with the Crow”, because in the CIA he was called “The Crow”.

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Emery: Right.

David: Most of the stuff is pretty conventional-sounding insider politics, but then there’s a really weird story about the CIA being called in after a woman got hit by a car.

And she gets brought to the hospital, and they put her body in the gurney in the hospital.

And they come back and they lift off the covering on the body, and it has turned into some kind of gel. It’s like melted, basically, mushed out.

And the CIA was the first to be called, and they’re doing an investigation, and then – he says in the book – Air Force personnel came in, said that the CIA did not have jurisdiction, kicked them out, took the material and left.

And it’s just this odd thing, and they don’t even believe in extraterrestrials, but they’re like, “This is not a regular person”.


David: Yes!

Emery: And you know I know the answer to that.

David: Right.

Emery: It’s just an amazing story, Dave. Thanks for sharing it with us.

You never even told me that story . . .

David: I know.

Emery: . . . so I’m really hyped now about how to . . .

David: Yeah!

Emery: . . . explain this jello. So what happens is this. While working in those projects in the underground labs, doing autopsies and working on these foreign tissues and extraterrestrial tissues and whatnot, some of the tissues they learned way before I got there – 20 to 30 years before I got there – they had a problem.

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One of the doctors was working on an arm, actually. And after he worked on it, he put it in a bin, went in to storage for about four or five days.

They went to go back and get it and it was all goo. It was all gel – jello – just kind of disintegrated.

So this started happening on a consistent basis with extraterrestrials that were interdimensional, that could shapeshift, that were MUCH MORE advanced than regular extraterrestrials. So think like over 100 million years old for the advanced ones.

David: Hm.

Emery: And everything below that is just kind of a regular extraterrestrials. No offense. Ha, ha.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: But they’re still amazing. No, what I’m getting at is: it was a frequency problem going on where the extraterrestrials that are of this advanced state have a defense mechanism like our white blood cells fight viruses.

And this defense mechanism will not allow a human to acquire the genetic DNA of these beings, because we would probably use it for bad . . . for something not good.

So encoded in their DNA and into their genetic frequency is this program.

So if I were to go up to this being to try to operate [on] it, even fully gowned in a spacesuit, it would basically turn to gel because my frequency does not match it’s frequency.

Even though it’s dead, it still has frequency, which Corey can attest to. These beings can hold that up to 30 days to a year.

Corey: Right. Basically, their DNA is putting off a frequency while they’re living that may be holding the molecules together even.

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Emery: Right. And that energy signature will also stay there in the area, as you know through the morphogenetic field, reading these studies, testing of these energies that people have laid in bed and died, and their energy markers are still there.

So this is kind of what has been going on when you hear about, you know, these bodies being found and they turn to jello and whatnot.

So what they did is: they started inoculating a lot of the physicians there and a lot of the technicians that were working on these bodies with, believe it or not, alien DNA.

David: Really?

Emery: And when . . . It was a very small inoculation, like a TB shot, where it’s right under the skin, because you just need a small amount of that in your system for you to have that frequency IN YOUR BODY to go and touch this being for 8 to 24 hours it could last.

David: Now, if you didn’t have the inoculation and you touched the body, what happens?

Emery: You would destroy it. It would, within 8 hours, turn to this jello-like substance and gel, and it would just break down. It would just turn to liquid.

Corey: Is this a certain type of ET . . .

Emery: Yes.

Corey: . . . like interdimensionals that were using some sort of a medium here to exist in?

Emery: Yeah, absolutely.

Corey: Because a lot of times their energy field will hold together these types of materials to give them a body that they can then use as base material to manipulate with their consciousness.

Emery: Yes, so . . . very good point, because a lot of these extraterrestrials . . . you might see just one person here, but actually they’re bilocated, and they might have three of them, but it’s one person, if you will.

So picture one person in a craft outside Saturn, let’s say, 33 miles long – I’ll just through that out there – and that is projecting and bilocating – an interdimensional creature – a few beings down here, or just one.

And it still is him, and he IS able to manifest into the 3D and have a solid form and hold this energy, you know, like you were talking about.

So this inoculation would allow people to go ahead and work on these beings and to get whatever they needed out of these beings, or just get the samples ready, or whatever is going on, without damaging the body.

Corey: I’m sorry, was this what . . . the term we were calling “biotagging”?

Emery: YES, Corey! Exactly. Biotagging.

Corey: Okay.

Emery: So they would biotag us with this genetic material so we could do this.

What’s interesting is: some of the technicians that I remember were hootin’ and hollerin’ about getting injected, and it became a big thing, and during my stay there they stopped doing inoculations and went to this viscus gel.

And they would put a dime size of this on the back of your hand, before you gown up, and that had enough of the genetic material that would saturate through the skin and into your body.

So inoculations were gone. Now they would use this genetic material with this gel, and then you have a good 24-hour window to work on this being without destroying the tissues of it or being of the same frequency.

Corey: Right and they can also mimic that frequency, bio-neruo frequency, with technology . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . and now can just create a field in the room . . .

Emery: Uh-huh.

Corey: as long as that being’s body is kept in that field, it won’t break down.

Emery: Right. Exactly. A big problem they had when they were harvesting a lot of these ETs from downed craft, especially in the ’40s and ’50s and ’60s, was they would basically just grab them and put them in these 55-gallon drums, special containers, full of alcohol or formaldehyde.

And they thought this was going to basically keep them alive, and they just turned to liquid – you know, just gel –

David: Huh!

Corey: . . . and because chemicals also react to these bodies. And a lot of programmed life forms that are not completely organic, also will melt in these things.

So when they open up the canisters, it’s just all goo, and there is nothing there.

So they started using water and other substances, saline, to transport bodies . . .

Corey: Yeah, distilled water.

Emery: They’d freeze them right away – and, yeah, distilled, purified water without new minerals in it for conductivity – and transport these beings around the world.

And some of the beings I got were actually still not thawed yet. They were still frozen.

David: You’re going to let somebody give you alien DNA? I mean that seems really frightening.

Emery: Very frightening when I look back at it. And I remember a lot of the jokes between the docs and I were, “Oh, my gosh. We’re going to wake up some day, and we’re going to be dead from this crap.”

But you have to understand, I was a really young age during this . . . you know, when I was doing this.

Corey: At the age when you think you’re bulletproof?

Emery: Yeah, when I was bulletproof, and I knew everything back then.

Corey: Right.

Emery: You couldn’t tell me anything, because here you are allowing someone to put genetic material into your body, and on multiple occasions, and not thinking anything of it, because I’m thinking to myself, “My goodness, these people love me here. I’m one of their best employees. Of course, they’re not going to do anything that would hurt me or kill me, right?”

So, you know, I had that kind of mentality then.

Now, oh, my goodness, it would be a totally different situation. And that’s kind of where I ended up being able to work on these higher echelon extraterrestrials, because I didn’t have limitations. I would do whatever it took to advance myself in that project at that time.

And if I said, “No,” then I probably would have been let go, to be honest.

David: Were you aware of any deleterious side effects of this extraterrestrial DNA?

Emery: Yes. And they DID brief us on this that some side effects could last anywhere from 24 hours to 7 days.

And some of the side effects could be . . . your eyes would change color, maybe. Sometimes you would have a luminous glow where you . . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . in the dark would actually cast about three inches of a glowing light that you could not see where it emanated from was one thing.

David: Hm.

Emery: But nothing that was . . . I never got sick or a headache or a stomachache. It was never anything like that. It was just weird morphogenic anomalies.

Corey: Well, other than what you described, the TB-type administration of the genetic material, did you receive any other inoculations or shots?

Emery: Yes. Unfortunately, even when we join the military, you know, you stand in the line . . .

Corey: The gauntlet.

Emery: . . . to get 15 shots of who knows what. And in these classified projects, you have to be inoculated with many different things.

And some of the things, I do not know what they were.

Later on, I found out that these things were antibodies, because in the past they had many outbreaks of different types of diseases in there that were of unknown origin.

But they were able to isolate these viruses and bacteria, make an antidote for that and use vaccines for it, and then you would be given these things.

And I never had reactions to those either that I’m aware of.

But I think it did, later on down the road . . . I think, with my neurological system, I think there was something going on that was . . . as I got older.

Corey: Yeah. And a lot of these injections they give you DO affect your neurological system.

I was given an inoculation for an intuitive empath that is suppose to enhance your abilities, and it REALLY enhanced them. It was amazing.

I was told that we received it from ETs. I don’t know if it came from a genetic experiment where they were dissecting an ET, found chemicals that enhanced us, or if it was handed over to us. I don’t know.

But it DID have non-human genetic material in it, or enhancements in it, and, yeah, there were a lot of side effects.

Emery: Right. I can attest to that, too, because a lot of the blood and stuff we were taking from these extraterrestrials, trying to figure out how they heal and all sorts of interesting . . . and how it raises consciousness.

And in their blood they had proteins and different types of antibodies – amazing different . . . a whole plethora of amazing different cellular activity and proteins in there that they were recombinantly, synthetically, making from this and selling it to Big Pharma.

Corey: You know, it’s interesting enough, you may have dissected genetic material that had come in through the Space Program, . . .

Emery: Sure.

Corey: . . . because we’ve talked about on Cosmic the human slave trade.

Emery: Right.

Corey: But there is also . . . We receive a lot of technology from non-terrestrials by giving them genetic materials from humans and, you know, plants and other things on Earth.

Well, we receive genetic materials in trade as well from all over the cosmos.

And I’ve heard that some major breakthroughs pharmaceutically have occurred from these biological samples.

Emery: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, the advent of them now testing with these amazing pieces of equipment that we don’t even have in the civilian world as far as . . . like, you’re talking about Xeroxing people.

They actually Xerox cells now in the same fashion that you were talking about. And they’re doing it with the genetic material that they’re acquiring from these ET autopsies and whatnot and the tissue samples from these beings.

So I agree with that, and I think Big Pharma has profited immensely from these projects, because the corporations patent these proteins and genetic materials and then they sell it to Big Pharma.

Corey: And not only that, pharmaceutical companies, the inoculations they give people, the flu vaccines, those . . . the viruses, live or not, inside those inoculations are a delivery system to carry genetic changes to our DNA.

Emery: Right.

Corey: So we are doing genetic testing on our own people with non-human DNA, terrestrial non-human DNA, and DNA from off the planet.

Emery: Yeah. I’ve read a couple of briefings on this that stated, especially with the part that has to do with your hormones, . . . So they’re really kind of turning men with . . . shutting off their testosterone and making more estrogen.

And for the women, they’re just giving them more estrogen and shutting off their testosterone with these supplements and pills.

And that’s not good because then it starts to mess up the body because the body’s not in homeostasis where it’s supposed to be.

Because if it was, everything would just activate and open up and our bodies could heal itself.

Corey: Now, I know you’ve followed the stories out about vaccines and how they’re finding more and more evidence that it contributes or causes autism.

Have you seen anything or have you seen any studies about this causing autism and have you heard anything about Starseeds and the possibility that some of these autistic children are Starseeds that have been targeted?

Emery: I’m not part of those projects, I’ll just say up front, but I have heard through my colleagues that are part of projects that are associated with that that there is something going on as far as the inoculations with these children. And they ARE special.

Everyone is special, but you know they ARE special, too.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

Emery: And there’s something that’s going on in the genetic makeup of this that HAS been either accelerated for the good or suppressed.

And I know you know a little bit more about that than I do, but that’s all I really know as far as the autism goes.

Corey: Hm. Interesting.

David: A lot of the people who are researching autism have also done genetic tests independently and concluded that there are highly abnormal and toxic amounts of aluminum in the bodies of people with autism.

Corey: Mercury.

David: What do you think is going on with that? Could people chelate and get rid of that aluminum and maybe reduce those symptoms?

Emery: Oh, yes. They can . . . That stuff can be taken out of the body and be chelated out in more than one way.

And there’s special waters out there – the fourth state of water, the plasma state of water – that have recently been introduced to the public that allows . . . You know, we had one of our . . . My colleague had one of his workers that was welding, and he got mercury poisoning and some other metals in his body.

And he had a family and some children, and he was very young, about 35 years of age.

And he was so toxic that they moved him right to Hope Hospice and said he had four days.

Corey: Hm. Because that goes through the blood-brain barrier, doesn’t it?

Emery: Yes! That’s the problem, because you can’t get it out once it’s in the brain because the fat in your brain sucks it in without taking . . . you could imagine.

But we were wrong. The fourth state of water has some sort of binding abilities, and it actually bonds to the metals in the body.

So I think he drank maybe 9~12 liters of this in one day, and then two or three days later, he was COMPLETELY free of mercury and lead.

And I’ll tell you right now, there is none of us here on this set that does not have mercury and lead in us to some point. But he had zero.

So somehow this advanced water stimulated his body and bonded to these metals and brought them out of the body in some form or fashion. And I don’t know scientifically how, but this has been documented.

David: Well, but in general, if someone had . . . like if they go to a naturopathic physician, for example, could they get prescribed a heavy metal detox?

Emery: Yeah. Well, there’s chelation IVs. Of course, they’re the most popular to take these metals out of your body.

And I would highly recommend anyone that has metal poisoning to do that or find this fourth state of water that’s out there that’s bottled. And you can buy it bottled.

David: And what is the fourth state of water exactly?

Emery: It’s a purified water where they run plasma gas through it, and it changes the structure of the water, the molecular structure.

And they’ve had some miraculous things. This water hydrates 10 times more than water, so you only need to drink that much [Emery separates his thumb and forefinger 2”] of a regular water bottle to get the same hydration.

So the military is adapting it and doing some testing now because it cuts down the packs for the soldiers. You know, those are sometimes 80-lb packs that these guys . . . It could be up to 15 pounds of water.

Corey: A gallon of water weighs a couple of pounds.

Emery: So by eliminating all that, still having the same hydration, imagine how much farther you could run and not have all this weight, or imagine you wouldn’t have to take as much water on a deep space exploration using gas combustible rockets.

So in the 3D, this is where it’s going.

Corey: We’re getting to a point now to where we’re going to start managing our own genetic and spiritual progress. We’re not going to be a Petri dish for dozens of different ET groups and black ops groups.

It’s something that’s going to be exposed and over time become public, and something that we’re all going to begin managing ourselves. It’s not going to be done behind our backs.

Emery: Right. And that’s amazing because once you have control over your own body, amazing things can happen.

One of the reasons the extraterrestrials find humans so fascinating is because we are one of the most adaptable creatures in all the universe.

That means you can poison us, you can throw UV light at us, you can throw electromagnetic waves at us, and you know what, over hundreds and hundreds of years, we adapt. We’re like roaches. We can’t be killed.

Corey: All evolution happens through stress.

Emery: Yes.

Corey: One of the things that I was told is that our chemistry, our body makeup, is extremely easy to manage and manipulate, more so than a lot of these different ET groups that had to do it over many years of adding technology . . . and managing themselves over many years.

Emery: Exactly, Corey. They over-engineered themselves over time.

Corey: Uh-huh.

Emery: And that is why a lot of ETs are coming back now, and that’s why a lot of the stuff I heard you say about the trading and stuff. . . you know, they’re trying to fix themselves.

And a lot of them are also just us a couple of million years from the future.

Corey: Right. I’ve met a few of those.

Emery: Yes. So what’s going on now? Do we keep our genetic material in a bank right now?

Corey: From what I’ve been told, we’re going to go through quite a phase in the future. We’re going to go through a phase where we rebel.

We find out about all these genetic programs, and we’ll rebel against it, and people will start hijacking or hacking their own DNA. And things go crazy to a point to where there are no real different groups of humans.

There aren’t really Caucasians and different types of humans. They all kind of mix for a while.

And then we start playing with our genetics in a way that we start tailoring them how we want until we get over that point and then start getting serious about being a cosmic population that is managing their DNA properly.

Emery: Right. Yeah. We are the superheroes of the universe – they look at us – and we look at them like they’re the superheroes.

So it’s a really neat thing when you are communicating with extraterrestrials to hear this relayed to you, because we think we’re just so scrawny and not a big deal compared to that big universe and all those amazing creatures.

But we all work synergistically together, and they are us, and we are them in a way – not all extraterrestrials, but some.

David: I find it fascinating, Emery, that we are coming up against a belief system that’s very strong in which people have been taught to believe that the Earth does NOT provide for the health of its people, that we would need to synthesize or artificially manufacture something that wouldn’t already be provided by nature.

And so as we go back to that belief, . . . Like you’re talking about Chinese herbs, that they’re actually superior to the things we could manufacture.

Do you feel that ultimately, we are living in a benevolent living cosmos that DOES provide for all of our needs?

Emery: Absolutely. And that’s why we’re here today. I mean, the Earth HAS provided for us and so HAS the universe, showering us down with coded energy and material to let us live with the Earth. They’re all working together. They’re one big giant family, think of it.

Think of all the planets as people. Think of the universe as one.

Everything you need is right here. It’s the body. And if you get it at a homeostasis working correctly, it’ll fix itself, and all that other stuff just helps it mutate into either a stronger body.

So I think . . . And one of the programs I was working at with regenerative long-term space travel was: there was no part of Earth on these crafts.

And people traveling, and astronauts traveling, were deteriorating, especially over nine months.

Corey: Yeah. They started piping in the frequencies of Earth.

Emery: Right. So they started recording crystal frequencies, rock frequencies, tree frequencies, and all this stuff, and actually bringing plants and crystals and rocks . . .

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David: Really?

Emery: . . . into space with the astronauts.

David: Wow!

Emery: And guess what happened? They stayed up twice as long without any . . . because they had a part of Earth with you.

Unlike Superman, where if he saw kryptonite, part of his planet, he would be killed, it was the opposite. It allowed us to survive.

Corey: I think you described homeostasis. Life develops in homeostasis. So any planet where life is developing on it, it’s going to develop a homeostasis to a point to where everything is going to be there to keep homeostasis, . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . including medicines.

Emery: And so far, Gaia hasn’t kicked us off the planet, yet, because we’ve been paying rent, but we’ve been partying too hard, damaging the planet.

So we need to shake that up, and we need to clean up the planet. That’s the most important thing to me because without the planet, there is no us.

And then the next more important thing to me is all the animals and mammals of the planet.

And the third thing most important to me is us, the humans.

Because we need all that to work in homeostasis, including the plant life, or we don’t exist.

So it’s important that we take care of this planet, and that we clean it up with all the horrible things we have done to it that even are not discussed, which you know about, with deep underground testing.

And this all poisons the planet.

And Mother Earth and Gaia will not stand for that much longer.

She’s been through this before, and she WILL cast us off, so we need to get the rent up ahead of time and start cleaning up our apartment or there’s going to be some fury coming down on us.

David: I find it interesting . . . I stopped watching commercial television in 1991. I was really disgusted with it.

And one of the things that I noticed before I really quit TV, and, of course, now I’m happy to be doing a benevolent form of television that actually raises consciousness, but I would notice that there would be a toxic food product, like a fast food or a processed food, followed immediately by a commercial for pharmaceuticals, which are treating the effects of eating those foods.

So it’s as if . . . And then the only other thing you see are commercials for fossil fuel burning vehicles.

Those are the three big things: fast food, pharmaceuticals and cars.

Emery: Right.

David: So how do you think we can un-hypnotize people from the belief that you MUST go the pharmaceutical route if you get in trouble?

Emery: You just did it.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: And that’s what we’re doing here. We’re making people aware. It’s really up to us and up to other people like us. And you have options. You always have options.

And soon there’s going to be a lot more options that will just be all out there where you can choose what you want to have, and you can tell the doctor what you want.

David: Well, what was so interesting – I’m thinking about Corey now – is when we started the show, he was not clean eating.

And in the course of some of the ET contacts he had, . . . why don’t you tell us a little bit about that, how that changed you.

Corey: Right. Yeah. I was about 80 pounds heavier than I am now. But, yeah, they were trying to get me onto a high frequency diet for some time. And I was eating corn dogs and ignoring them to a point where finally, I ended up getting food poisoning, and I was sort of forced onto this path.

Emery: I remember this, yeah.

Corey: But ever since I changed onto this path, the changes that have occurred in me have been just amazing – the cognitive changes, the health changes. I mean, they’ve been undeniable.

Emery: Oh, absolutely.

David: And you were able to get off of pharmaceuticals that are supposedly never able to be quit.

Corey: Right, yeah. I was on heavy doses of Xanax for PTSD, and I was able to quit them cold turkey. The doctor told me not to do that. I quit it cold turkey.

I didn’t have any symptoms from coming off the medications. It was an amazing experience.

Emery: Wow! Yeah. I can correlate to that because I recently changed my habits lately.

And the messages and the remote viewing and the intuition has just skyrocketed by doing so.

So there is definitely something to what you’re putting in your body and the frequency for that.

David: And I remember Pete Peterson on this same topic telling me that people simply changing their diet can lead to as much as a 20-point boost in the IQ.

Emery: Oh, for sure!

David: You believe that?

Emery: Yes, sir! Absolutely.

David: Why do you think that would happen?

Corey: Toxins and inflammation.

Emery: Yep. Inflammation and toxins – that’s the key.

David: How would that increase your IQ, though, if you get rid of inflammation and toxins?

Emery: Well, because inflammation is slowing up your heart rate. Your heart has to work harder. You’re full of cholesterol and all these other fat soluble things floating around.

And that limits the amount of hemoglobin and oxygen GOING to your brain.

David: Ah!

Emery: So by increasing the oxygen content to your brain, you increase angiogenesis, the formation of new blood vessels, which then saturates your brain and gives it all the energy and oxygen and food that it really needs.

And things hinder that like smoking, taking drugs and eating bad, and whatnot, not exercising.

So by just eliminating a couple of those things and getting out and moving around a little bit, you’re increasing this mana that’s in you and allowing the frequency to change and take place.

David: And here at Gaia, we have a lot of programming about tai chi, yoga, things like this.

How do you see those movement disciplines as related? Is there a reason for people to be doing that kind of stuff? Would that also help?

Emery: I think it’s very beneficial, in my own opinion. I do all those things.

And, you know, you’re bringing energy in, and you’re thinking positive. And just that alone, reducing the stress in your body, being able to shut your mind off for just an hour a day, does wonders for your consciousness and for your health.

David: Well, that’s awesome. I want to thank you, Corey, for being here. I want to thank you for being here, too, Emery. And I want to thank you for watching.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”, and we’ll see you next time.


Cosmic Disclosure: Disrupting Disclosure Strategies

David Wilcock: Welcome to another episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and we are here with Emery Smith and Corey Goode, truly a roundtable of insiders’ insiders, giving you cutting edge glimpses of a world that most people have no idea about.

So Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Thank you, Dave.

David: And, Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we’re going to start off with a question from the audience. And this is a question for both of you. And the question is:

“Do either of you have any regrets about coming forward?”

Emery: I don’t have any regrets.

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I mean, I look back . . . Of course, when certain things happened, certain traumatic events, I’ll go in that mode for maybe an hour or two, like, “What am I doing? I’m going to end up dead or something.”

David: Yeah.

Emery: But in the grand scheme of things, when I look back on everything, I just cannot even believe I’m still here, number one. And number two, I get to tell everybody about it.

And number three, I actually enjoyed doing all this stuff and experiencing all these amazing things, and I appreciate that.

And I’m compassionate about all the stuff that I’ve been through, and the things that I have done, for not just me but also the people I was involved with and also the beings that I was involved with.

And it was very rewarding, actually. So I think of a bigger picture moving forward, and I want to make a big difference for everyone. And I want to help everyone and help the planet get to a state where it’s at a great level of consciousness so we can advance into space and into other realms.

David: Well, but like the rest of us, you’ve had some very harsh threats.

Emery: Very.

David: And I think a lot of whistleblowers . . . You know, we talked about the idea of: if they wanted to kill you, they would have killed you.

Emery: Right.

David: Right. So . . .

Emery: Absolutely.

David: . . . they didn’t ACTUALLY want to kill you.

Emery: No.

David: But what has happened to you may have been intended in part to try to intimidate other whistleblowers so they wouldn’t come forward.

Emery: Oh, of course. That’s the whole intention is to instill fear through me speaking to you about incidents that have happened.

And like I said, if they REALLY want you dead, you’re going to be dead, and I’m still here.

David: Right.

Emery: Knock on wood. So I think it’s more of an intimidation factor.

Also, they want to cripple you so you won’t talk. You know, they want to make sure I don’t get here.

David: Right.

Emery: And you’ve seen what I’ve been through just in the last two weeks trying to get here.

David: Absolutely.

Emery: So it’s a very dynamic thing that they have going on. And they’re very precise on how they do it, and that . . . They don’t go too far, because it takes a lot of people to vote on someone being terminated, I’ll say.

David: Right. Corey, any regrets about coming forward?

Corey: You know, mostly in the beginning, I did have some regrets.

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I had a good career that pretty much was destroyed. But having two children and a family while having helicopters buzz your house, as happened, having laser dots on your chest while you’re standing next to your son, I’ve had my share of threats.

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Now I see the big picture, but in the beginning, I had a lot of regrets for coming out or for being brought out.

I had regrets for how I was brought out as well, because I didn’t have much choice in the matter.

David: Right.

Corey: But if I had been given the opportunity to come out on my own, I’m sure I would feel a lot better about the beginning portion.

But now I see the big picture that Emery just discussed.

David: So let’s get back to the topic that we were on last time [that] we’re going to continue with, and that is the subject of underground bases.

We had started to talk in the previous episode about these solid holograms, and you had said, Emery, that they are projected out of satellites.

So is this at all related to Project Blue Beam, or is it something else? How would that work?

Emery: Yeah, I think it’s separate from that now. That was an older project.

And now they have a more advanced type of satellite, where it actually uses multiple satellites to do it. Sometimes [there is] not just one satellite that can project.

They might use up to nine satellites to do a projection

Corey: Project a grid . . .

Emery: Yes.

Corey: . . . out over an area – an operational grid.

Emery: Absolutely. And they can also set this up on the ground, using giant cargo containers and trucks, and do the same thing on a terrestrial basis, you know, on the land. But most of it’s done through satellite technology.

Corey: I agree. A lot of it’s done with satellite technology, but some of it has to be done from the ground to give it the full . . . each layer, the depth, that it needs to make it believable.

Emery: Exactly. Yes.

David: So what do you think is going on with it being able to make a solid surface? How would that be possible? Is it like . . .

Emery: I mean, I’m just hypothesizing here. I don’t know the science behind it, but somehow, they are able to change the mass of the atoms in the air and use moisture as well, vapor of some sort. Some say it’s glycerin-based. I don’t know.

They might draw up . . . A couple of planes might fly over and spray this stuff, and then the next thing, you have a really good . . . Let’s say you have a really good background to project this film onto.

So I think it has to do with that of rearranging the molecules and atoms somehow into a denser state, . . .

Corey: Right.

Emery: . . . where you have this palpable type of mass.

And like I said, I didn’t get to see like the hard one that Corey has seen, but I have touched the ones that are just very palpable.

It feels like I’m touching a memory foam mattress, that kind of . . . It pushes back.

But then if you really try to push through it, you will go through it.

Corey: This other technology worked on some sort of . . . It electromagnetically locked. It goes back to wetter moisture . . . They’re able to . . . I guess kind of like when you go to an MRI, it makes all of the metals in your body go to one side, to where they can view it. It does something similar.

It turns everything, all of the molecules, into one direction, I believe.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And then it magnetically locks them.

Emery: That’s right. Yeah.

David: Hmm! So given what you said, Emery, would it be possible that they would, like let’s say, spray an aerosol and then that hardens into sort of like if you put chocolate on ice cream or something?

Emery: No, no, it’s still floating in the air. You can’t see it. I mean, it’s very small nanoparticulate matter, made up of . . . I don’t know the actual ingredients and concoction. I just threw out glycerin and water because I heard on the earlier projects that’s what they were doing inside the lab, . . .

David: Ah.

Emery: . . . and projecting stuff onto this steam and film.

Corey: Ah, like a solid smoke?

Emery: Yes.

Corey: Right.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Hm. I’ve never heard of that.

Emery: But it wasn’t, as you say, a Magic Shell topping on the vanilla ice cream.

David: Right, ha, ha.

Emery: But it’s more like it’s in the air, and you notice that it’s not as clear as it usually is. And . . .

Corey: It’s particulate.

Emery: It’s very particulate, yeah. So it’s floating around.

David: Now, we had been talking about remote viewers being used, and I think that’s a subject that we kind of rushed through right at the end of the last episode.

Emery: Oh, right.

David: So let’s talk about that a little bit more.

Now, you said that . . . One of the things that we were looking at about these underground bases concerns something that you guys . . . I think, Corey, you mentioned the term “delta waving”.

So why don’t you bring that up, Corey, about what is “delta waving” and how does that relate to people working in these underground bases?

Corey: Well, I mean, it was developed in underground bases, but those are used more for when they go into a neighborhood and they want to abduct someone.

They delta wave or create delta wave patterns in all of the people around, causing them to go into a deep sleep, to where they can’t observe what’s going on.

More of what kind of applies to the deep underground bases is that you have thousands and thousands of people going to work every day.

They know that they’re doing something very important, but when they come home, they either have no idea what they did all day or they have a screen memory of what they did, because they’re blank-slated at the end of every shift.

Emery: Yeah. As you walk out, they blank-slate you.

David: How did that work for you when you had that done?

Emery: I didn’t have that done. That wasn’t used in my compartments ever. And my security clearance was pretty good as I got escalated so quickly in there. Plus, I had a really good standing, record.

I never really messed up except for maybe one or two times, which is not a lot in these projects. People are constantly messing up and making mistakes.

One thing that I do know is that in the projects they do it also to military people.

And when we go on missions, whether it’s to look at craft or extraterrestrials or go through portals or time change things, some people come back and they have some serious PTSD.

And if you can’t get rid of that in a week or two, then they will do this as well to you.

Corey: Yeah. But the unusual thing is that it DOESN’T get rid of their PTSD.

Emery: No, it doesn’t.

Corey: What will happen is that people will have unexplained PTSD.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And they’ll have multiple types. They’ll have combat-related. They’ll have complex. And those types of things are . . . They usually only happen to people that were in war and involved in serious abuse.

Emery: Yes. I know high echelon military officials who ran large flights and platoons and many different types of defensive and offensive type missions.

And I know some colonels and generals who’ve been mind-erased at least 20~30 times, because it’s just too . . . it’s too much. They go through too much, holding onto . . . you know, losing many cadets and soldiers.

And it DOES take a huge impact on these people and all the way down to the person on the front line, or as we say on expeditions, the people at the front of the expedition, who during . . . when you’re going to an area that you’re not aware of what you’re about to expect with a craft and extraterrestrials. And, you know, people get hurt because they walk in there too quickly.

Corey: So about what year was the last year you remember being in one of these facilities to where blank-slating was going on?

Emery: Ah, 1993.

Corey: ’93. And do you happen to know the method of blank-slating that they were using?

Emery: No. I just . . . I know about this because there were certain compartments that had to go . . . when they left, they had to go through this airport-type device. And that’s what they said. And everyone kind of knew, though.

Everyone thought they were just looking inside their bodies and what not, but it actually was doing what you said. It was erasing their memory or putting them to sleep.

It was affecting their brain wave pattern for sure that they would not go home and be worried about what they did today. They would really just rather go home and just call it a night and go to bed.

So it was affecting them in the brain that way.

David: When you say “airport-type device”, are you saying like a metal detector or body scanner?

Emery: Like a body scanner.

David: Would they fall and pass out, or how would it . . .

Emery: Oh, no, no, no. I’m saying that it’s reprogramming your brain, like make you believe . . . you just got a whole . . . you did a whole 12-hour shift. Now you’re leaving.

And as you walk through these things, you can’t really recall exactly what you worked on today, and you really just want to go home and rest. You’re not thinking about going out and partying. You’re not thinking about going to the grocery store.

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So a lot of people complained about this, because some people forgot to pick up their children at the nurseries and stuff.

David: Oh!

Emery: So they had to tone this thing down and perfect it, because back then it wasn’t really that perfected.

Corey: And that definitely sounds like a mechanical way, technological way, of doing it instead of chemical.

Emery: Yes, it was.

David: Given this technology exists now, how many people do you think might be in the military and unaware that they’re doing something this exotic?

Like how many people might be walking around without a clue?

Emery: They know what they do. They just can’t recall what they did. And they’re okay with it, because when they get back the next day, don’t forget, you remember everything when you’re back in there.

David: Oh.

Emery: And then you’re okay until the end of the day.

So it’s not like it’s a forever thing, because . . . As soon as you walk back in there, everything’s okay again. Everything comes right back.

Corey: Because they give you a cue when you walk in the door.

There’s a specific sign or a specific cue. When you walk in the door, it tells your brain to remember.

Emery: That’s right. And they’ve done it with sound and symbols on the walls and to the hallways and stuff is what I’ve learned from experience, and what I’ve learned from . . . What they’re doing RIGHT NOW is that.

David: Let me just throw this in. One of the things that is very, very frustrating for me when I talk to Pete Peterson, which I do two or three times a week for two hours on the phone usually, whenever we really get into the good stuff, he just immediately starts passing out.

He starts falling asleep. He’ll trail off in the middle of a sentence, and I’ll literally hear snoring.

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[David on a video clip interviewing Pete Peterson.]

David: “Hang in with me Pete. Stay awake, buddy.”

Pete: “I am. I’m listening.”

Emery: Perfect example.

Corey: Program trigger.

Emery: Perfect example.

David: So what do you think that is? What’s going on there?

Corey: That is more of a hypnotic thing that’s been programmed into him. That’s a long . . . It’s a little bit more involved of a process, but you can be programmed to have a seizure when you’re accessing memories, to fall asleep.

There are a number of things they can program you to do.

Emery: And certain words and frequencies . . . like, “I want to tell you something about Project Backscape.” I can’t, because soon as I think about that, it shuts down. I can’t even say it.

Corey: Or you start stammering, or you . . .

Emery: You’ll start stuttering.

Corey: Right.

Emery: I’ve seen this many, many times. And you will sometimes go unconscious or have seizures or whatnot.

So this is a really good program. I’m not sure how they exactly do it. I think it has to do with the same type of technology that they use to wipe your memory clean and whatnot.

And I know it’s the same stuff that they use on the PLFs [programmed life form] and clones.

David: If you’re going to remember everything as soon as you go back to work, does that mean, based on your experience, Emery, and then Corey, you can get your opinion on this too . . . Does that mean that these people are basically in for life? Do they continue working their whole life?

Emery: Oh, the majority of these people, for sure, when they take this job, they know that this is going to be a lifelong thing.

I mean, with all the NDAs [non-disclosure agreement] you have to sign and all the threats you get and all the little things they do, you’re here because you really want this job.

Corey: And they make it very difficult to obtain or hard to earn to get the job.

Emery: Absolutely.

Corey: I mean, the security clearance on its own, you know, . . . But all of the other hurdles they make you jump, you covet the job, and you don’t want to do anything to lose it.

David: So what are some of the kind of mistakes that people could make that . . . You mentioned that you could make a mistake and get in trouble.

What are some of those kinds of mistakes? What could happen?

Emery: Well, going into the wrong area, number one, happens a lot. And that is a very bad mistake – could be fatal – if you walk down a hallway you’re not supposed to be down or enter a room you’re not supposed to be in, as you’re being tracked through the whole facility every second.

Another one is people try to take things out of there, little trinkets and little things that should not be on the surface. And that’s instant death.

David: Really?

Emery: That’s instant termination if you get caught actually beyond security with something like that, or if you just made it through security.

It shows that you already had the intention to do that, and you had to go through great, just huge expense, huge planning to even do something like that, because . . .

Corey: It doesn’t happen by accident.

Emery: It doesn’t happen by accident, because you know they can see through your body. Okay? You know they know everything. You know, they hear everything, see everything.

While you’re in there, there is no private place anywhere, and you are always tracked, and you are always reminded.

And they do little tactics every now and then with different colored lights and warnings and sounds and different sirens and beeps to just remind you, “Hey”.

Maybe something just happened; maybe it didn’t. Maybe they just did that to up your game, so you better . . .

So it’s kind of that kind of environment, but it’s also a very laxed environment amongst the scientists and the physicians that are in there, that are doing all this stuff. And there is some play and some joking going on.

Yeah, so that’s kind of the two biggest things is: going somewhere you’re not supposed to go, and number two, bringing something in you’re not supposed to bring in, smuggling it in, or bringing something out you’re not supposed to bring out.

David: Is everyone aware that they would die if they . . .

Emery: Yes, everyone knows it’s a huge risk to your life or your family’s life. So if you’re REALLY good and you screw up, and they still need you, they’ll just take out your daughter or your son or something.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: I didn’t have a daughter or son, so they took out my dogs. So it’s like . . . It gets to this point where you’ve got to be really wanting to do this and also be loyal to what you’re doing. And then you’ll go really far.

David: All right. Well, let’s talk about what are some of the programs that are occurring in these bases.

And specifically, you have mentioned in the past some genetic experimentation that you personally witnessed and that was sort of like your specialty.

So could you cover that for us again now that we have Corey here?

Just give us an overview of what types of genetic programs were you aware of being conducted in underground bases.

Emery: Okay. Sure. Some of the genetic programs that I was aware of while I was there was the hybridization of humans and other life. And it could be animals, mammals, insects, plant life, all sorts of things like that, and trying to see where the consciousness goes with that with the two different types of material.

And they were very successful. And they’ve been doing this overseas for a very long time.

And we started pretty late here in the United States, but now we are the leader of that. But not United States, I’m saying the labs here, because when I say the labs are all the same, it’s just the newest ones are here.

Corey: Well, actually, this has been going on by us, maybe not in our territory, much longer. For instance, there is what they described as on paper was an NBC based – Nuclear Biological Chemical testing base – in Mexico, owned by the United States.

It’s in the area they call the Zone of Silence.

And it turns out that this NBC base is actually . . . it’s actually been a genetic experiment type base. And it’s been going on for QUITE a while, much longer than what we’ve been working on in the States.

Emery: Exactly. Yeah. Definitely. I agree with that 100%.

Right now . . . So the experiments that are going [on] down there are also cloning of many different types of species, including humans, and the making of clones and program life forms, which could be any type of life form that they grow there, and that is infused with a type of consciousness or infused with a type of circuitry on a nano level for complete mind control.

Corey: And they can also use them as avatars. They can push the consciousness of a soldier in using an electromagnetic field that pushes . . . but the avatar has to be genetically compatible with the frequency . . . with the frequency of their body’s genetics for them to be able to use.

Emery: Yes. Similar to the movie “Avatar” where you see that. That’s a very realistic rendition of some of the things that they’re experimenting with right now.

Corey: Yeah. That’s been going on a while.

Emery: And they can . . . You know, you could do many jumps like that as well into different bodies. It’s a very high-tech, highly classified place that they do this in.

I’ve only . . . I only know of maybe two places, two specialty labs, that are involved with that. And there might be, of course, more.

Corey: Yeah. What was interesting is on the research vessel I was on, they were using this type of technology to transfer scientists and operators from their bodies there on the ship . . . to pass them on to these avatar-type bodies that were off in ships in other star systems.

Emery: Absolutely. This is SO true. I’m so glad you brought this up. I probably would never have talked about it.

And what I have witnessed is them doing that here and then putting it into a body like in New Zealand or Australia.

Corey: Right.

Emery: And so we’re talking like Bluetooth gone wild here of taking someone’s consciousness and like shooting it actually through the Earth to this other part of the planet and infusing . . .

David: And if that body gets injured, do you feel the pain with your own body?

Corey: Yes.

Emery: Oh, absolutely.

Corey: And they’re broadcasting their consciousness through the Cosmic Web – the same portal system that they use for travel.

David: Hm! Are you aware of your physical body, or . . .

Emery: Yes.

Corey: It’s just like . . .

David: It’s like bilocation?

Emery: It’s just no different than if you were to be in my body,. You would know everything about me as far as the physical everything. And if I was in you, I would be . . .

David: No, I guess what I’m saying is: if you’re in a chair and you’re in an avatar somewhere else . . .

Corey: You don’t have a bilocal . . .

David: Are you aware of the chair?

Emery: Oh, no. It’s not bilocal.

Corey: No.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Oh, okay.

Emery: This is just complete . . . You know, your transformation of consciousness goes from this body to a totally different body. So this body [original source body] now is just a cold slate. It’s just sitting here.

It could be put in suspended animation. I’ve seen that done.

A lot of times these jumpers – we call them “jumpers” – that do this all the time, actually they might just dispose of that body and keep going. And that messes things up, by the way.

Corey: It does. There’s a type of portal that works that way. They call it the Xerox room, where people go in and an exact duplicate is sent at another location. It’s created.

Emery: Oh, bilocating.

Corey: And as a part of the process, this one [original body] is destroyed.

Emery: Right.

Corey: There’s like . . . After they say, “Yes, they have arrived safely at this location”, a signal goes back that automatically vaporizes the being on this side.

Emery: Right. Wow! That’s pretty intense.

I know that by killing the body that you left on an astral, spiritual and conscious level, you’re not . . . you’re separated from your old body, but you still have these harmonics and frequencies of that body still in that body. So there’s a piece of you still there.

Corey: It’s also like making many copies of the same file. You start to loose . . . there’s degradation that occurs.

Emery: Yes. Exactly. And that’s the same thing that happens in growing cells and regeneration. You keep losing . . . When you’re doing it in a Petri dish compared to someone’s body, you always lose a little bit of that cellular integrity.

David: Sometimes I think, Emery, pop culture references, like in popular movies, can become almost ingrained belief systems.

Emery: Sure.

David: It could be very hard to unwind. And I remember when I watched “The Matrix”, it didn’t sit right with me.

I know they were trying to create jeopardy, but you remember the scene where Keanu goes, “If you die in The Matrix, do you die here?”

Emery: Right.

David: and then Morpheus goes, “the body cannot live without the mind”.

Emery: Right.

David: And I’m like thinking, “Wait a minute”. If you die in The Matrix, that’s just your electronic form. Your body is still in the chair. So . . .

Corey: Well, it goes back to also . . . what is it? What the mind perceives, the body believes?

Emery: Right.

David: Uh-huh.

Corey: Like when the mind believes it has died, the body goes through a process.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: Right. You have to have a really strong mind to be part of these projects. And they go through very strict special diets with neurotropic enhancers, and they have to be really physically fit to do this.

And so there are a lot of variables in being one of these people, but the mind, like you said, makes it real.

And so it’s more of a belief system and a connection system that you have with your astral and all the light bodies that you could mention.

It’s about having a good connection with that and being able to tell what’s real and what’s not real, because there are some people that never come back because they forget, and they get trapped . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . in these states of programs and these other states of . . . it might go wrong. And they just might end up walking away and forgetting where they really came from and start a new life somewhere.

Corey: It makes you wonder if something like that happens through reincarnation.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: It does.

David: It’s almost like they hijacked the reincarnation system in a sense by doing this.

Emery: Yes. Yes.

David: All right. Let’s talk a little bit about cloning again.

One of the things that immediately pops up in my mind is: if they need workers underground, and you say there’s this cloning program, then how many workers might actually be clones when you get into these vast underground cities?

Emery: It’s cheaper to hire someone from the surface.

David: Oh, it’s cheaper?

Corey: You want . . . Clones are good for certain things, but you need actual experience.

Like, you know, a clone hasn’t picked something up and set it down a 1,000 times in its lifetime. It hasn’t gone through hurting itself and all the different things that we go through to learn experience.

And also, a lot of the . . . I told you once that when we were brought to a facility on Mars that some of the equipment that was delivered with us, . . . four guys came out, looked identical to their selves. In their eyes, there was . . . They were almost like automatons. There was no real warmth or life in their eyes.

They came and they picked up the equipment and off they went in lockstep with each other.

So this type of cloning is done and used in many different programs, but the usefulness of a clone is limited.

You want to have a person with experience that has . . . especially a scientist. You don’t just want to clone a scientist. You want a scientist that’s gone through the schooling, has been through all of the testing, the failures, the successes to make them who they are.

David: How does this equate with what you have seen?

Emery: Yeah. Absolutely. Clones go through a progressive education enhancement program. And what that does is . . . you know, you DO have to teach them.

You can only program them for so much, but they need to have just regular quirks about them. They have to socialize.

Corey: You can program how to tie a shoe in their head, but until they get the muscle memory down from doing it over and over, it’s disconnected.

Emery: Right. So if you’re really sending this clone out to . . . I mean, you want to know about it . . . you’re sending it to the surface. It’s going to go through some serious training way before all that happens.

But, yeah, I agree with what Corey said. And I’ve seen . . . It sounds more like programmed life forms to me, because of the eyes.

Corey: Yeah. I mean, many programmed life forms are clones.

Emery: Right.

Corey: That’s just the level at which they are programmed.

Emery: Right. I’m talking . . . When I say the word “PLF”, though, in a definition, I’m talking about something that was grown, that’s kind of organic and cybernetic.

Corey: Right. Gotcha.

Emery: So I know you have a different definition. I definitely believe so. But that’s what I mean when I say “PLF”.

And then there’s the clones, which can be programmed, like you said, exactly like you said. And they can do all these other things, but they’re completely organic. There’s only . . . Except for if they have circuitry or nanoparticles in them that are for whatever, that could be made of metal or whatnot.

Corey: Yeah. I’ve seen some weird stuff that they put in them. It looks like fiber optics with two different pieces that they put up in their heads in surgeries.

Emery: Sure. Interesting. Yeah. I’ve seen similar pieces of equipment, I’ll say, kind of embedded into the bodies like this with a couple hoses and wires and stuff, but don’t think of the cheap hoses and wires – very bioluminescent-type stuff that has definitely a specific function.

Corey: So an article came out just very recently that was talking about all of the military personnel and scientists that wear Fitbits, you know, the watches that monitor your health.

Emery: Oh, yes. Sure.

Corey: Well, they have GPS tagging with them. And it appears that no one turned off the GPS tagging when people were working in these Special Access Programs.

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Emery: Right.

Corey: So recently the map was released of where all these little pings were coming from, and they were revealing secret bases.

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One area was down close to the Ross Ice Shelf down in Antarctica, right in the area where I had been brought previously and saw an underground base system that was under the ice.

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So have you heard of any of these places, such as Antarctica, having some bases?

Emery: Oh, definitely Antarctica has a base there and there’s some crashed craft there. And there’s an ancient civilization that they discovered there.

And they’re building the story for that to release to us soon, in the next couple of years.

But first, they’ve got to get all their ducks in a row. And they have to, of course, go through this base and they also have to go through the crafts. They have to go through the ancient ruins that are there and put something together that’s a good story that we’re all going to believe.

Corey: Well, it’s already starting to happen.

Emery: Yeah!

Corey: If you remember, months ago, not too long ago, that we had a university that stated, “We have geothermal pockets under the ice where there’s life”.

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There’s flora, fauna. There’s all types of genetic diversity occurring.

Emery: Right.

Corey: So we’re getting little bitty drips here and there. So I think that we should keep an eye on what’s going on in Antarctica for sure.

Emery: The biggest hotspot and the biggest thing everyone’s talking about right now.

And I can also back you up as saying there are many of these . . . because using this backscattered radar technology that I was involved with, you can see large openings, large spheric openings in the Earth and the Earth’s crust and even down near the mantle there, that are hosting their own atmosphere and pressure, life, and all sorts of things.

And now getting back to Antarctica, the great thing about Antarctica, as I told Dave before, is they’re all like, “Well, when is that going to be . . . Who’s going to be the one to come forward on Antarctica?”

And I said, “It’s Gaia.” The Earth is slowly melting that away right now. And no human is going to have to come forward, because another year or two, that craft is going to be shown all the way . . .

Corey: We’re helping the situation along because of the excavations we’re doing with steam excavations.

What I was told is that the high-pressure steam, dropping of bags and hitting them with microwaves to clear out large areas, is causing major ice melt that’s going underneath the ice shelf and further lubricating it and causing it to break apart at a much faster speed than it would have previously.

Emery: Right.

Corey: A lot of what’s occurring is geothermic activity, because the base that I saw had a giant tower that was a geothermic generator.

Emery: Right.

David: All right. Well, that’s really fascinating stuff. That’s all the time we have in this episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”, with Emery Smith, Corey Goode, and me, your host, David Wilcock. Thanks for watching.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Cosmic Summit

David Wilcock: Welcome to another episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And we have a special treat for you: two high-level insiders who have never before spoken in any public or really private forum in the way that we’re going to right now.

We have Corey Goode and Emery Smith.

Emery, welcome to the show.

Emery Smith: Hey, Dave, thanks for having me again. Very exciting day.

David: And Corey, thanks for being here.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we decided to start out this first episode by trying to find one of the areas where there might be common ground between the things that you’ve experienced, Emery, and the things that Corey’s experienced. And so this gets into the topic of underground bases.

So just to start this off, I’m going to ask you some simple questions, and then we’ll open it up from there.

Are you aware of either the military or the government, or whatever you want to call it, having underground facilities?

And if so, how extensive are they? How many of them are there? And what do you know about those facilities?

Emery: I’m aware of, in just the U.S. alone, about 300 of these facilities.

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Now, when you say government, I want to, like, talk about that, because it’s not always the government that owns these facilities.

They GUARD these facilities – the military does – but they don’t always . . . are in control of the facilities, because they are owned by larger corporations and unknown organizations.

Corey: That have different oversight.

Emery: Exactly.

Corey: Right.

Emery: Right.

David: So when you say there’s about 300 of these facilities that you’re aware of . . .

Emery: Just in North America.

David: . . . what would be an average benchmark of what you are thinking that that means? What are those facilities? Of the 300, what would they be like?

How big are they? How many people do they hold?

Emery: Right, there’s many different facilities with many different types of populations in them. And they all have a different agenda.

And there are some that are larger, like the ones in New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado, that actually house entire cities, and you never even have to go to the surface.

They also have full running hospitals and whatnot for this elite group.

As far as the laboratories and all the testing going on there with nuclear and other types of energies – because it’s not all just medical, of course . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . but other things going down there, as Corey can also relate to of working on different types of devices, such as different types of vehicles, number one, space vehicles; also, the medical stuff I talked to you about in the last episodes, with all the storing of cloned bodies and whatnot.

So there are a lot of these facilities that house many different types of projects.

And then there are some that are only for specific types of projects, because it’s so compartmentalized, they’ll make a whole underground base just for one project.

David: Wow!

Emery: And they’ll keep that with the population usually under about 200 people so they can control them.

Corey: So Emery, I know you probably can’t tell us the names of the bases that you went to or where they were located, maybe some, but can you tell us the number and how they were different, as well as what it was like going into the bases?

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Emery: Yeah, sure. Basically, there’s around 300 of these bases in the United States that I’m aware of.

Some of the ones I’ve been to are in El Paso, Texas, under UTEP.

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Of course, everyone knows about the one I’ve been in in Los Alamos and Kirtland Air Force Base.

Another one would be in Charlottesville, Virginia. There’s another one in Denver. Of course, Dulce [New Mexico] you know about. And there’s one in White Sands [New Mexico] – under White Sands National Monument.

Also [there’s one] in Creststone [Colorado], underneath the sand dunes, which they’re trying to now expand that.

David: What about in Canada? Are you familiar with any up there?

Emery: In British Columbia and also near Whidbey Island, off of Washington there.

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Corey: When you approach these bases, or these underground facilities, the entrance to them, are they nondescript? Or are they something that . . .

Emery: Yeah, 95% of them are nondescript but also guarded or usually near a base or on a base for the entry points.

Now, there are a few that are out there that actually are not guarded, but they’re in such remote desolate areas that . . . I mean, they’re guarded, but they’re not . . . it’s not . . .

Corey: With technology.

Emery: It’s not on a base. Right, with technology and satellites.

Corey: They’re monitored.

Emery: And completely monitored, exactly.

So I think most of them, to answer your question, would be: you’d have to enter a really secured lab or a really secured corporation or a really secured military installation to access the underground.

Corey: So could you take us through what would be typical if you were to go through?

Emery: Right, absolutely. Depending on where your entry point is and depending on the type of base it is, some of the most common ones, like the one I was stationed at with Kirtland Air Force Base, was basically a fire tower that you would never even think would be the access point.

David: Mm-mm.

Emery: And a fire tower, meaning it’s a concrete base, not made out of metal. So I want you to think of a small 30′ x 30′ building, concrete, that goes up about six floors – straight up – but it’s there as a fire observation point, which, of course, never is utilized for that.

And these areas, too, they don’t have, like, parking lots in front of them or anything like that. You usually have to walk through many different posts.

But since this was already on the base, inside another base that’s there . . . so you’re going through two different types of security.

So first you have to get on the military base, number one. And then once you do that, there’s another even more secure base on there with the fences and their own security teams. They’re not military.

And these are private corporations that I spoke of that are running these things.

So one of the things I was speaking to Dave about one time was my dorm was so close to there I would actually ride my bicycle to this place after work. And I was allowed to put my bicycle near the area and then walk over. And this is just an area that people that on base worked there could walk to it.

So there’s many different places to go in, but for us, since it’s more convenient since we live on the base, for many scientists.

David: What would happen if somebody started to notice an unusual number of people going into a fire tower like if you were on the base and it wasn’t your job?

Emery: Yeah.

David: What would happen then?

Emery: Well, that whole place is monitored, number one, and you’re already on a base. And the base already knows there’s something . . . You know, THEY already know there’s something there.

They don’t know the extent of it, though. The military doesn’t always know the extent of how large these underground bases are, which you [Corey] could probably attest to.

Corey: Do they typically bring you through and scan your body? Do all these . . . I mean, what other types of security measures do they take?

Emery: Sure. So once you get there, like I did, there was actually a bike rack there that I’d put my bike up. And I’d walk right over, and there’s just two doors.

You walk in, and just like you would walk into a hospital to check in somewhere, they take your driver’s license and all that stuff.

So there’s two security guards there, and you walk in.

And they either recognize you, or they don’t recognize you. And you do have three different types of security things you have to do before you go in.

You have a card, number one, and it’s very generic. It’s nothing special. It doesn’t have any . . .

Corey: Just a strip?

Emery: . . . holograms or anything in it. Right, it’s just a strip . . . a magnetic strip, like you see on a credit card. So it’s nothing special at all.

Then you have, of course, your palm print identification and your iris eye scan, like the old stuff you see in the movies – very similar to that.

So once you go through that and get through all that, then you take the elevator down.

Once you get to the bottom . . .

Corey: Where they weigh you while you’re on the elevator going down.

Emery: That’s right. The elevator is not a regular elevator. It looks like a regular elevator, but the elevator is actually scanning you to see if you have any type of, let’s say, plutonium on you or anything that could be a threat.

So this elevator’s doing a body scan on you as you’re going down.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. So you cannot smuggle something in, in your orifices. You could not come in there with a bomb or a grenade or a handgun or anything like that.

David: Is it also like an X-ray, MRI kind of thing, where it would . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay, I thought so.

Emery: It’s a little different like that. It’s not radioactive causing, where . . . of course, they wouldn’t do that to you.

David: Right.

Emery: We do wear these special, of course, X-ray badges the whole time we’re in there, because it monitors how much radiation you have.

Corey: You’re exposed to.

Emery: Right. And it’s not always just from the X-rays. It could be other projects in there that are using stuff that it is emanating at a safe level. But they have to monitor you the whole time.

Corey: Do they keep a running tally of any exposure you had to radiation . . .

Emery: Absolutely.

Corey: . . . accumulation?

Emery: Everyone’s monitored for gas and radiation and specific light wavelengths, actually, that could cause damage to the body.

So those are the three things they are monitoring all the time.

David: Okay, so, Corey, since you’ve also had experience with underground bases, at this point, is there anything funny that jumps out at you – anything that he said that was familiar or unfamiliar?

Corey: Oh, yeah, absolutely familiar. And like he said, there’s different types of bases.

Some of the bases are . . . you cannot access them from the ground whatsoever. You have to go through the tram system, the secret tram system underground.

Emery: Yeah.

Corey: And the only entrance and exit is through that tram system.

David: Right.

Corey: And often, they will be very deep, as I’ve said before. At a certain depth, you’re no longer considered in United States territory.

David: Um.

Corey: And so you then have free rein.

Emery: Absolutely, yeah.

David: Have you seen . . .

Emery: And I was getting to that, because once you get down there, you have to take the tram.

And many of them have different types of maglev and lavatube devices to get you there.

Corey: I don’t think we’ve had someone that could give a good description of the tram. I know they have short ones for people that you sit in and you’re facing each other.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And then they have the larger ones. Can you give a description?

Emery: Yeah, sure. I spoke about this in the past. And one of the ones is kind of like a, as Dave and I call it, like a gondola.

So when you get down there, there’s a chair you sit in, and it goes down a very, very long hallway.

And it just keeps going around and around and around. It’s very slow, as fast as . . . a little bit faster than you’d see at the airport when you stand on those . . . the standing conveyor belts.

Corey: Right.

Emery: So just a little bit faster than that. And you’re sitting down, or you can stand up. You don’t have to sit down.

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And that takes you to the actual main entrance of the underground base, and it could be as long as a quarter mile.

Now, they also have the actual tube system, which is a pod, and it holds up to four people.

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And it’s in the shape of a cylinder egg.

And you get in that one, and it has really nice chairs in it, actually, kind of like the reclining ones you would see on a dentist table, but really padded.

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And you can actually wear a seat belt in these things, but you don’t need to. You don’t even know you’re going because it’s so fluid, and it gets up to such a high speed.

And I don’t know how fast that is, but I heard some of these can go over 500 miles per hour.

Corey: Yeah, I was hearing over 700.

Emery: Yeah. So once you get there, whether you’re taking the chair, the gondola, or you’re taking these maglev tubes – the egg thing – once you get there, then you have to still go through another security checkpoint.

Corey: Because you could be in another country for all you know.

Emery: Right. Or another planet.

Corey: Right. Exactly. I was actually talking about that recently, about how . . . Recently, when I was brought up to the Lunar Operation Command, I was brought into a room for a briefing, and there was a window.

And I looked out the window, and I saw Mars.

Emery: Ha, ha. Yes.

Corey: And I was told that a lot of times, people will take these trams. And much like I took a tram, and it ended up on another planet . . .

Emery: Yes.

Corey: . . . back when I was much younger, and you can’t really tell.

Emery: Right.

Corey: You know.

Emery: You don’t . . .

Corey: You can’t really tell.

Emery: It’s not like a . . . You don’t go into some hyperjump, or you’re even aware of it. It’s that fluid when you do these kinds of portal jumps, I’ll say. It’s in seconds.

Corey: And they play games with the people when you get there. You’ll see windows that make it look like you’re on Earth somewhere or on Mars.

Emery: Right. Yeah, we talked about this. Absolutely.

Corey: And they were doing that on the Moon when I was in there, and they said, “Ah!”, and they flipped it over to a moonscape when they saw me staring at Mars kind of confused.

David: Let me also just say for the record that Bob Dean, Pete Peterson, Jacob and Henry Deacon have all reported on this phenomenon of sub-shuttle systems where you get transported somewhere else, and you don’t even realize it.

You’re just riding in the thing, and you go somewhere else.

So this is a consistent element of insider testimony that I’ve heard.

Corey: Yeah, they could take a scientist, put him in one of the underground trams. They could end up at another facility, and it could be on the Moon.

David: Right.

Corey: And they could . . . And the facilities on the Moon . . . it looks just like Earth facilities.

David: Right.

Corey: And then walk them around. Let them see out the window – see the Grand Canyon or something – and the people totally believe that they’re at a location on Earth.

Emery: It also helps with the psyche, if you’re living underground for a very long time, to have these views and . . .

Corey: Yeah, trees and plants.

Emery: . . . to have the organic state material, with gardens inside these things.

Corey: Full spectrum lighting.

Emery: Full-spectrum lighting, and the things that we normally have here outside they try to replicate inside. And it seems to lower the stress levels of the scientists and the technicians that are working there.

David: Yeah, let’s go with that, because one of the things that Pete Peterson reported to me was this idea that you might have a very large dome underground in which there is a city, with buildings and roads and trees.

Emery: Right.

David: And it really . . . And they even have the dome lit so it looks like the sky.

Emery: Yeah, the dome is really cool.

Corey: And they do starlight. They do stars at night.

Emery: They do. And you have your own 24-hour, like you said – the day and night situations. They can make it look like a hurricane’s coming,too, with clouds and all sorts of amazing sci-fi effects that are very realistic, as far as the lighting goes, and the way it makes you feel like you’re looking into infinity.

Corey: I’m curious. Were any of these bases that you went to . . . were they in national parks?

Emery: Yes. Yeah.

Corey: Interesting. We’ve heard tale, and you and I have seen doors that will just open up out of the side of a mountain.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And they can completely . . . you could never tell that there is anything there. You could go there with a . . . do sonic tests. You would never know that there’s a door there.

Emery: You can’t even find it with a metal detector.

Corey: Right.

Emery: And this is like a giant rock, like you just said, will open up. And it’s completely sealed and pressurized, out of the side of a mountain.

And we were talking about this earlier, Corey. Even in the desert, . . . Like, I always remember watching the desert open up, like you said, which you can explain.

Corey: Right. Like a zipper.

Emery: Like a zipper.

Corey: The ground.

Emery: And then the sand starts falling in. And I’m always like, man, who’s cleaning up all that sand?

Corey: Right.

Emery: But they have a special thing that . . .

Corey: Yeah, it drains sort of those . . .

Emery: Just collects it right out and shoots it back out over the . . . once the door shuts, shoots it back on top of that.

Another type of base that I don’t get into too much, you know, up in the North Pole in the polar ice caps – there’s bases in polar ice caps . . .

Corey: Mh-hm.

Emery: And they are magnificently beautiful, number one. And they somehow have their own atmosphere in there, . . .

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: . . . with perfect running water and their own, I’ll say, their own electricity they make using the Earth, because they’re already very, very deep.

Corey: Is that like geothermal?

Emery: Yes.

Corey: Right.

Emery: Yep.

Corey: Are these . . . And some of them also use the thorium-type reactors.

Emery: THORIUM – absolutely.

Corey: Yeah, so . . .

David: I’ve heard a lot about thorium.

Emery: That’s a big one. Thorium’s amazing, yeah.

David: It’s basically a non-radioactive fusion system.

Emery: Right.

Corey: Well, what’s interesting is that in a lot of my presentations I’ve been showing footage from Project Iceworm.

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It was a project by the Army Corps of Engineers in I think it was the late ’50s, early ’60s, in Greenland. They went in, and they set up one of these bases.

And basically, the same type of building was done down in Antarctica as well. And planes would come and land and provide them the supplies.

But this is also how they’ve build a lot of off-world bases . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . this same method. But Project Iceworm was very interesting because later on, the United States tried to smuggle some nuclear weapons there, and the plane crashed.

And everyone found out about this huge base that was secretly built.

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David: Just so you guys are aware of this, one of the things that Pete Peterson told me was that the “World Book Encyclopedia” in 1953, I think was the year, that the military-industrial complex sent people all over libraries to rip out this one page because it had something in there talking about how thorium could be a reaction that would produce almost no radiation.

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And he said that if we started to use this, that we would have this incredible breakthrough in technology.

So what do you guys know about thorium as it relates to our discussion?

Corey: Well, I know that in the programs, the craft, research vessel, I was assigned to, originally it was nuclear. And then they replaced it with a thorium based.

And then they replaced it with some sort of an electromagnetic engine that had these long tubes that they would put something in that they called “minnow baskets” that would spin.

And if you move it up and down, you get a little bit of play in the electromagnetics.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And I think it’s some sort of electromagnetic friction that’s going around. And these leads are picking up the energy and shooting it wirelessly through the tubes, which then go directly to these huge capacitors.

Emery: Right. Yeah, a lot of capacitors are used in these bases to hold the energy.

I’m not an expert at thorium, but I was recently on a project where a private organization – a private corporation – hired me to . . . They sent out people all over the United States – a scientific team – to find the LARGEST deposit of thorium here in the United States.

And I know exactly where that’s at. And that is also in New Mexico. I’m not going to tell you the city it’s located near, but I’ll tell you it’s in New Mexico.

And there’s an unlimited amount of thorium there that could power all the planets, and all the bases, and, of course, us right here indefinitely – INDEFINITELY – I mean with the amount of energy we already currently use.

David: So why do you think, Emery, there would be a base in a national park? What would be the advantage to that?

Emery: Oh, the advantage of that is, number one, it’s completely monitored all the time. You always have park rangers around.

So it’s like you have your own little civilian operatives out there.

And, of course, they’re just cluttered with satellites and stuff that are watching them – watching the area, I mean.

So these areas also sometimes have a great usage to them because they’re near maybe a underground thermal or something.

Corey: Right.

Emery: And they’re harvesting this energy. Or maybe it has a huge crystalline formation under some of these parks and stuff.

So the parks, even in early days, were actually picked out to hide military bases.

Corey: Yeah, what’s interesting is Clifford Mahooty, when we had him here talking, said that reservations – Indian reservations – and these bases and national parks have the same classification with the government.

Emery: Yes. And that’s what I’m saying, because it’s limited traffic, or it’s controlled traffic.

Even on the reservations, like, . . . You’re not even allowed to go on a reservation, you understand, unless you have special passes and whatnot with the chiefs.

And what happens is that’s the perfect ideal place that’s never going to have a lot of traffic or a lot of investigation, because we’re using an area that we already gave to the American Indians.

Corey: Right. It was interesting. I read a report that a lot of the groups of park rangers were actually intelligence.

They were former military and intelligence, because in a lot of these national parks where people “go missing”, they end up finding the missing people.

And sometimes they had been worked on by non-terrestrials, and they needed to keep it quiet, . . .

Emery: Sure.

Corey: . . . so they had the park rangers smooth everything over.

Emery: Yeah, I can attest and agree to that 100%, that they’re using a show of force, or let’s just say a security detail, that is not what you would think of someone just graduating college and taking up a job.

These people are 20-year-plus veterans either in the projects or in the military, as you said. And they’re very overqualified, but they get paid really well.

David: So one thing I’d like to follow up on, Emery, is you mentioned bases under the ice.

Emery: Yeah.

David: And I would assume this also would include bases in the ocean.

Emery: Yes.

David: There’s this very strange movie that came out 2009 called “G.I. Joe”, which is military, but all the stuff that we’re talking about is in that movie all over the place.

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What do you feel about the movie “G.I. Joe”? And did you have any . . .

Emery: I do recall seeing that. I don’t remember it too well, but I do recall seeing it and connecting the dots, we’ll say.

And I think there was a lot to it at the time. I remember watching it and saying, “Wow! Here they are just coming blatantly out.”

David: Because it’s so . . .

Emery: . . . and showing . . .

David: They’re doing these beautiful visuals in the movie with computer animation.

Corey: Oh, yeah, well, especially the second one when they did the Rods from God attacks . . .

David: Oh, that was crazy.

Corey: . . . on the Earth when that’s exactly what we’re looking at in the North Korea thing.

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Emery: Right. Right. Interesting. I didn’t see the second one.

David: They’re telephone-pole-sized pieces of tungsten that you can drop onto the Earth, and just gravity causes a very, very severe explosion that can devastate a huge amount of space.

Emery: Oh, yes. Yeah.

David: And he had talked about that. And I only watched the second “G.I. Joe” film recently, and I couldn’t believe that it was in there.

Emery: Wow! Yeah, that’s pretty amazing for them to blatantly come out and expose that classified information, but we do start to see that now all the time with the movies are giving tidbits.

There’s the Alliance and other white hats that get to throw a couple of messages in there for those who are paying attention . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . and talk about it. So I think it’s a great thing.

David: So another thing I’d want to bring up now is: when I spoke to Bob Dean, retired Major Bob Dean, he actually told me a lot more than he ever said publicly with Project Camelot or anyone else about what he really had been involved in.

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It’s very similar to what Corey’s done.

And one of the things he talked about was an island in the South Pacific that looks like an island if you fly over it, but if you get really close, half of the island is some kind of hologram, and it’s camouflaged.

And you can go through that hologram, and then you find out there’s a whole base there . . .

Emery: Yeah.

David: . . . that you can’t see from the sky. Are you familiar with anything like that?

Emery: There’s lots of that.

Corey: Yeah, lots of that technology – the masking technology with holograms.

Emery: Lots of it.

Corey: They’ve even developed holograms to a point to where they have mass.

Emery: Right.

Corey: Or they call them “hard light”, to where they can . . .

Emery: You can cast a shadow.

Corey: Yeah, you can do a hologram, and you can walk up and “tink, tink, tink,” like a piece of glass.

Or even they can make it even thicker in depth.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, I totally can attest to that as well, and I was part of . . . not part of that, but there was compartmentalized projects near me during that that were working on satellites that could do that, or they were putting that technology in satellites in the early ’90s, and I think it was probably before that.

Corey: Yeah. What’s crazy is they’ll have a hard light panel. They remove the source of the power or electricity, and it stays.

Emery: Right.

Corey: I mean, it’s incredible.

Emery: Yeah, they’re using all sorts of cool technology. That’s why I always say, you know, if I did see something, a craft or whatnot, an ET, it’s hard for me to say, “Oh, that’s real. or it’s not real”, unless I actually was right in front of it and analyzing it, because they can make you really believe you saw a plane crash into a building.

Corey: Mm-hm.

Emery: They can make you really believe that’s really something there. And you can get up to it, like Corey said, and it’s palpable.

David: Really?

Emery: It is actually palpable. And the ones I’ve seen were not as palpable as yours were. You’re like . . . Mine was just for a little bit, and then you could just easily go through it.

Corey: Right.

Emery: But that’s just an amazing technology to begin with, because then you can basically make any type of threat – fake threat – or use it for horrible situations where you’re trying to . . .

Corey: They’re using it for building.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Would they create areas where, like, NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] would have a no-fly zone? So, like, you couldn’t fly a passenger plane or an airliner over these areas?

Emery: Oh, that’s right now. Right now they have it everywhere. There are certain places you can’t . . . no-fly zones.

And that’s a great way to also investigate when you’re trying to find places.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: And you’re like, “Well, why is it way over here? This is a no-fly zone.”

David: But, like, if you have a little Cessna, what would happen if you tried to go towards one of these zones, let’s say.

Emery: You immediately would be escorted out by some F-16s . . .

Corey: Yes.

Emery: . . . or F-15s or whatnot.

David: Okay, it seems pretty strange that they could have this hard-light technology or a hologram cloaking something.

Somebody at some point is going to find it. Somebody’s going to be sailing in a little skiff . . .

Emery: They have.

David: . . . on the ocean or something. So what would happen in those situations?

Emery: They have, and they were terminated.

David: Really?

Emery: Missing at sea. Or even in military operations, sometimes THEY accidentally stumble.

Corey: Training operation.

Emery: Right, and they’re not supposed to be there, but they are. And they are usually terminated.

Corey: “Dead in a training operation” or something.

Emery: Yeah, they were, like you just said, . . . People that work at these bases, too, their families don’t know that they’re going to a base to work for three months.

They’re just saying, “I can’t contact you for three months because I’m going on a mission.”

So when they do die, and they tell the family, “Oh, they died in action or on a training mission”, it’s completely false. It’s completely fake.

And they’ll never know, because the best people to hire are military people that are active duty, because they’re very expendable.

David: What other methods do they have to protect the base from people showing up so that they don’t actually have to kill people? What are some of the other methods?

Because I would hope they don’t always do fatalities.

Corey: You know, they’ll do things like put out signs stating that there’s radiation, that this was a testing zone for nuclear weapons and try to deter you that way.

Emery: Well, they have many things in place to deter you from going there, but sometimes it just happens.

You know, you can’t have a sign every 50 feet and when you’re 100 nautical miles out with this island and stuff.

But there are boats that are always . . . and aircraft that are always patrolling those areas.

And the satellites that are assigned to these bases, they’re always there. And a fleet can’t even get in there without them knowing that there’s something in the airspace.

David: Wow!

Emery: You could not fly under radar to these places. You WILL be caught. You WILL be found.

David: Do you think there are certain cases where people would be brought into the base and become employees or maybe unwillingly become employees instead of just being shot?

Emery: I’m not aware of that.

Corey: I am, unfortunately.

Emery: Yeah?

Corey: Yeah. There have been, for the biometric testing and stuff, they’ll take people.

Emery: Oh, for testing. Right.

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: Yeah, I’ve seen them get kidnapped.

David: Hm.

Emery: And people were there against their will, but not to be working for someone. I’ve never seen that. But, absolutely, what Corey just said is unfortunately true.

Corey: Did you ever hear of any security measures to protect against “psychic spying” or remote viewing?

Emery: Absolutely. All the bases have dedicated remote viewers on board.

And don’t forget, remote viewers don’t have to be on the base.

Corey: Right.

Emery: They could be far away and still protecting the bases.

And you get two good remote viewers – and that’s one of my specialties that I actually get paid for – . . . is you have a remote viewer, let’s say, that’s 90% effective.

And then you get another remote viewer that’s, like, 90% effective. And they both come up with the exact same thing.

So you only need a few of those guys on board to check out surveillance.

Now, they do have people that are advanced remote viewers that are using . . .

Corey: Remote influencers.

Emery: Right. Say it again.

Corey: Remote influencers.

Emery: Right, remote influencers that also use consciousness-assisted technology and electronics that they hook up to.

Corey: Have you seen some of the . . .

Emery: Yes.

Corey: There’s either a pole or a plate that they put their palms on.

Emery: Two gold plates or . . .

Corey: Well, one is copper, and one looks like it’s a stainless looking steel. And it’s hooked up to wires. And they’ll sit there, and it enhances their ability.

The remote viewers that try to view military bases, they’ll begin to see a view of the base, and then all of a sudden, their thoughts are scattered.

And what they were being called in the smart-glass pads, which is an awkward way to label them, but they called them, “Those that Scatter”, because they were scattering the thoughts of anyone coming in.

And they were also sending energetic feedback through the connection and giving people what they called “ethereal headaches”, which for days you have a huge headache. And I’m sure you know what that’s . . .

Emery: Oh, yes.

Corey: . . . what those are.

David: All right. Well, that’s very amazing stuff, and that’s all the time we have in this episode with Emery Smith, Corey Goode and myself. We’ll see you next time. Thanks for watching.


Cosmic Disclosure: Viewer Questions 13: A New Future For Humanity

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode, and we have had so many conversations and questions that have arisen on Corey’s fascinating update that we’ve covered in previous episodes that we decided to just answer your questions in one episode because there’s so many of them.

Well, Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: The first question is:

“Could you please clarify the advantages and disadvantages of having our Solar System’s Outer Barrier removed? Does this mean, for example, that beings like the Dracos could now just come and go as freely as they choose?”

Corey: Yes, it was communicated to me that with the Barrier down now the Portal System was completely open, that beings can come and go through the Portal System, but that that is extremely monitored, heavily monitored.

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They can tell by the electrical feedback of a jump from one place to another, how many hops you took, how many connections you hit, before you ended up at your final location. And they can track you down.

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They said that whoever DOES escape through the Portal System will be on the run for the rest of their lives because there are no real safe havens around anymore for the negative groups.

David: Now you’ve mentioned before the Draco kind of have a big enclave in our Solar System, so is this a major defeat for them once this Solar Flash takes place if they’re trapped in here?

Corey: Well, before the Solar Flash, they’re ALL going to go like into a stasis or one of these temporal bubbles where they hide out until after this energy passes through our Solar System for over a thousand years. And then they plan on coming back out and reasserting their authority.

But it is going to be OUR duty to go down and root them out once this Solar Flash occurs.

David: Okay. So the next question we have is, someone said:

“Sigmund says to you, ‘Intuitive empath, my ass’.” And the person said, “I think he was implying that you are not an intuitive empath. Could you explain exactly what he was thinking from that statement?”

Corey: Yeah, he was definitely implying that my intuitive hit was incorrect.

David: So did he have some implicit assumption that intuitive empaths should be this amazing psychic who’s always right?

Corey: Yes. He was basically under the impression, “You’re supposed to be psychic. You should know everything.”

David: Right.

Corey: You know, there’s a reason they’ll use three of us in a situation to triangulate. It’s because none of us, even when we’re enhanced with these serums, are 100% accurate.

David: Right. Next question we have says:

“Ultimately, the Draco are just pawns of this AI that is actually manipulating them. So if the AI is really responsible for all of this, and it still isn’t being defeated when the Draco are defeated, then how do we know that we’re not just going to become slaves of the AI?”

Corey: Well, part of this process is that when a series of Solar Flashes occur after the Sun comes out of what it’s in now, Solar Minimum – which is about 11 years it stays in Solar Minimum – they expect when it pops out, it’s going to do so in a spectacular fashion, that there are going to be a number . . .

And while it’s in minimum, they expect some flashes as well. Some have already occurred.

And this series of Solar Flashes is going to be basically like an EMP to the Artificial Intelligence. All of the technology that it inhabits will be destroyed, and the AI signal will not be able to permeate our region of space because of this energy that is emanated from the Sun as feedback from the Cosmic Web.

David: How do we avoid being destroyed by the loss of our technology if that is to happen?

Corey: It will be a rough time. People will be . . . There will be a loss of life. There will be some bad things that occur, but that’s going to be the point to where a lot of these breakaway civilizations that break positive for us, after all this happens, they’re going to see that as an opportunity to bring down all of these advanced technologies to everyone on the planet at the same time and not just give it to a few elite countries and let it filter down to the rest.

David: So are there radiation-hardened technologies that will be able to withstand this Solar Flash and will still be operational after it happens?

Corey: They think that they have some of their technology shielded enough, but from what I’ve been told, no matter how far you go down in the Earth, it’s going to penetrate.

David: But they do feel that they can release technology after this happens that we’ll be able to use?

Corey: Yes.

David: Interesting. A similar question that occurs to me right now is:

“If the AI is essentially EMPed by, as you’ve said, the final of a series of Solar Flashes – it’s the biggest one in 10 or 11 years from now – what prevents that AI from just immediately zipping back in on these photons that you say have the AI signal in them?”

Corey: After the thousand years, that signal will come back into our Solar System. We will just have a different type of technology developed out, and we will be aware of the AI threat, and we’ll be able to mitigate it.

David: So it is, essentially, everywhere, but we’re just like . . . It’s like an immune system learning how to have antibodies to fight this.

Corey: Right. The AI signal’s being broadcast from many different galaxies all around us. There’s no hiding from it.

David: Next question is:

“William Tompkins urged us to get involved. How do you think we should get involved if we want to defeat the Draco and heal our society?”

Corey: It pretty much goes to each individual. Each individual has to do the personal work to make sure that they don’t have karmic entanglements.

And we need to start focusing our intent, or our co-creative consciousness, on a positive outcome.

The more of us that do that, the easier it will be for us to attain a positive outcome.

And right now, we’re seeing what Tear-Eir called the Great Awakening occur on our planet.

David: Well, “focus our intent” is sort of a general term. Could you maybe get a little more specific about what would “focusing our intent” look like?

Corey: It’s just as simple as it sounds. Focus your intention and energy – thought energy – on a positive future for humanity and outcome.

The secret of their black magic is being able to drop some morbid details or ideas on us about a cataclysm or something that will happen.

They’ll drop that into our consciousness and a lot of times what occurs is that we make it happen through our co-creative consciousness. We’re manipulated.

David: So in a sense then, we have the power to steer this however we want.

Corey: We always have had the power. We’ve just been kept ignorant of it.

David: So why do the Draco then seem so compelling in what they’re doing? If they’re only doing what we allow them to do, why have they been so successful?

Corey: Because we’ve allowed them to do it. You know, we’ve given some sort of tacit agreement by not fighting it and by allowing ourselves to be manipulated.

David: If the Blue Avians said to you that we should get off of our knees, did they get more specific as to exactly what that means – that specific motif of standing up off of your knees?

Corey: Yeah. It means that we’ve been programmed as a species to be watching for someone or something to come and save us.

That is a part of the programming that keeps us ignorant of our co-creative abilities.

Once we realize our co-creative abilities, we realize we don’t need a savior. We are the ones that we’ve been waiting for.

David: Very interesting. Okay, next question we have is:

“In order to really get rid of the Reptilians, do we have to wait for the Solar Flash to happen?”

Corey: Yes. To root out the last of them, yes, because that’s when they’re going to into their little stasis areas to hide out, and they won’t be able to come out because of the energies. It’s putrid to them. They can’t handle it.

And it’ll be like shooting fish in a barrel, I’m told.

David: Next question we have is someone said:

“I’m wondering to get a little bit of clarification on this. Humanity’s cosmic family – this was your quote – ‘humanity’s cosmic family will come in and assist us in raising us to the next level of human evolution and growth.’ So could you specify what is the cosmic family? What is the next level of growth?”

Corey: Well, the cosmic cousins are family. They are human beings almost exactly like us, just different types, that have already gone through this process.

And what is going to happen is that after the Super Federation is fully disbanded, they are going to bring these local 52 star cluster inhabitants, representatives, to that Super Federation facility to interact with us and help us be advisers, advise us through going through the rest of the process.

David: The question also mentioned genetic growth as well as spiritual growth.

“So how would humanity’s cosmic family assist us genetically at that point?”

Corey: They assist us with the beginning of taking over our own genetic program.

What that entails, I don’t know. But I received some information that after humanity finds out that there IS a genetic program going on and that we’re a part of it, that we sort of rebel. We become extremely upset about it.

You know, we all think we’re these beautiful sovereign beings. How do we then put that together with the fact that we’re just lab mice to more advanced beings?

There’s quite a cognitive dissonance issue that occurs. It’s going to be a rough time.

David: Okay. The next question is:

“What is the nature of the classes that we are going through in dreams? Is this something akin to sitting in a class at school, or is it more symbolic in nature?

“How is this dream education exactly taking place?”

Corey: Well, from what I’m told, numbers of people are meeting in the same place etherically and are in classroom settings, to where at times, I’ve been used as an avatar to teach people – people that see me in their dreams in classroom environments all the time. That’s been reported.

And I really have no memory. I always said they must be using me as an avatar, their higher self, or something like that.

But what I found out from the Blue Avians is that, indeed, we HAVE been doing a lot of this dreamwork with people and helping train people. It’s a spiritual thing, a spiritual level.

David: So there are classes in some cases?

Corey: Right. Classroom environments is how people are perceiving this etheric event.

They’re seeing . . . Their higher self is displaying it to them as them sitting in a classroom.

I really don’t know exactly the setting etherically that is going on.

David: Well, I find it interesting, Corey, that in The Law of One, one of the most common terms they use for Ascension is “graduation”. And I’ve had myself many, many of these dreams about a graduation ceremony.

So do you think these graduation dreams could be part of the classroom ideas as well?

Corey: It could be, but the graduation that we’re going to go through is a much bigger event. It’s this Great Awakening.

David: Right. Okay, now we have a question about the galactic slave trade.

“With the fact that humanity has been traded off so extensively in this galactic slave trade, is the next big push in the battle of good versus evil going to be the war on slavery? And will those people that were extracted from here be returned to their homes?”

Corey: Yes. Now, we’re already seeing a big war on human trafficking.

David: Right here on Earth.

Corey: On Earth.

David: Yeah.

Corey: Yeah, what occurs on Earth . . . There’s a lot of human trafficking. It just really hasn’t changed in the thousands of years that we think we’ve evolved. It’s just as prevalent now.

But a good portion, over a million people a year, that are a part of this slave trade, are going off planet.

And as we’ve described, they’re traded off for many, many different reasons.

What’s been occurring for some time is that there have been operatives – SSP Alliance operatives – that have gone in, and I partook in this – I myself helped do this – they are tagging these victims as they’re being sent off.

And at times, a number of them have been rescued and then brought to this planet that the Mayans control that is basically a healing planet, where they take people to heal. So that’s already occurred.

What I’m told is that it’s going to happen in mass. They’re going to go, and they’re going to find . . . I mean, there are going to be millions of people out there that were traded off that are going to be rescued and brought back to a planet for a number of years where they’re going to be healed. All the trauma is healed.

And once they are to a certain point in their healing, they will be reintegrated with people on Earth.

But in the process, they will let people on Earth know that a loved one is in this program to be healed.

David: Okay, the next question is:

“You mentioned seeing a person on the LOC with a NASA badge, and this is not something we’ve heard before on ‘Cosmic Disclosure’ in any of your testimony.

“So could you please expound on the implications of seeing somebody in this, allegedly, simple program of NASA that’s not supposedly involved in anything deeper?”

Corey: Recently, Emery and I were talking . . . and there is an Air Force space program and an astronaut school where they train astronauts. It’s up by the Great Lakes somewhere.

And there are dozens of these astronauts, and they’re the ones that serve on the Military-Industrial Complex space station and operate the triangle vehicles that service it.

David: Right.

Corey: So apparently they are allowed at LOC Bravo. And LOC Bravo is the only LOC that they know of.

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They enter it from a totally different way, because we were . . . What we were told we couldn’t discuss with the egghead-types, especially, where we had just come from – LOC Alpha.

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David: Right. So Emery has mentioned this secret NASA. What do you think would be the size and the scope of the secret NASA as opposed to the public NASA?

Corey: Well, when I knew . . . I mean, it was a long time ago that I was briefed on that – over a decade ago; I mean, it’s been a while – but there were only like a few dozen . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: . . . astronauts in this program.

David: Okay. Now we have another question about that NASA:

“Has NASA’s presence on the LOC been hidden from us because of exopolitical factors? Did the presence of NASA occur recently? Did the Cabal throw NASA a bone to let them feel better about what they’re doing?” This kind of question.

Corey: Well, this is the military branch of NASA, not the public relations branch . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that we know about.

This military branch of NASA, I believe, has been allowed access to the LOC Bravo for quite some time.

It’s just that they don’t know about the other LOCs. They think they’re going to “the” LOC.

David: Interesting.

Corey: And just like how I was talking about LOC Alpha as “the” LOC because I didn’t want to acknowledge the other two.

David: Do you think that this secret NASA knows about the MIC Secret Space Program?

Corey: They’re a part of it.

David: Part of it. Okay.

Corey: Yeah, they’re a part of it.

David: So it’s just one of the divisions.

Corey: Right. And they even have a small base on Mars that they have access to.

David: And what would be the function of that base?

Corey: Research and development.

David: What are they researching?

Corey: Technology. They’re building out technology to expand the human footprint in space, but they don’t realize that it’s already expanded.

David: Okay. So the next question:

“In an earlier episode, you mentioned going to the Mayan ship, and that there was a Reptilian being that was killing people there.

“How did this being end up being able to kill people? Was it using a technology, or was it some focus of its consciousness? How was it doing this?”

Corey: No, it’s the most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen. It was a silent, psychic war that was occurring. It was really weird.

What happened is that the Mayans had located this being somewhere in southern Africa in a city that they knew about.

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And they had been monitoring, looking for this being, for a while.

They located it, and they used their technology to flash it out of the cavern city it was located at to their ship.

It appeared on the ship, and the Mayans were overconfident about their abilities, and they thought that they were going to be able to put this being immediately into stasis.

What happened is this being appeared, and they weren’t able to handle it, and it used its extreme psychic abilities to kill . . . it was between five or seven of these Mayans.

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And the tools that they were using – weapons – they were holding up like this [Corey acts like he’s holding an ax weapon in front of him by grabbing the two sharp edges of the ax], and their eyes were just above this part [Corey peers over the center part of the ax weapon that goes down in the center] of what looked like an ax handle.

And they were kind of hunched over walking into the room like that, like it was a shield and a weapon at the same time.

Basically, the reason it happened is that the Mayans underestimated this being and how powerful it was.

David: The next question is:

“Have the ETs stopped upgrading our DNA now, or will the next big upgrade take place after the Solar Flash?”

Corey: They’re still tinkering and winding down their various projects, but a lot of the genetic tinkering that’s going on is going on by humans at the behest of the Draco.

So we still have . . . Through like flu vaccines and all kinds of other methods, they are using viruses as delivery systems to make genetic changes to humanity.

Apparently, before too long, we openly and overtly start taking over the management of our own genetics, and we go the designer route there for a while, apparently.

David: Okay. This next question kind of relates to a discussion that I had with Pete and gets into some confusion that we had, which is:

“Are the Anshar the same Tall Whites that Charles Hall reported interacting with in the Nevada Desert in the 1960s?”

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Corey: I don’t think so. The physical descriptions don’t seem to match. The fact that in the military they call the Anshar – they have called them – the Tall Whites because they’re tall, they have blond hair and very alabaster skin.

David: Right.

Corey: But just like they call a number of different beings “Greys”, – the same thing happened in Nordics; they call a bunch of different beings “Nordics” – they get lumped in.

The group that Charles Hall was interacting with seems to be a totally different group.

Now, I see the confusion because as they get older, they grow taller. But what I’m told is that 4th-density in higher beings . . . that this is fairly common. It’s a common part of their life cycle.

David: These different growth cycles?

Corey: Right.

David: Yeah. So Pete was also just saying that the terms that they give these beings just relates to how they look.

Corey: Right.

David: It’s very crude.

Corey: Right.

David: So you have Saurians, which would be Reptilians, that kind of thing.

Corey: Yes.

David: So a Tall White just means a tall being that’s got white skin.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay. The next question is:

“Of all the different races that you saw among these 52 other witnesses, were they all familiar to you from before or were you seeing some that you had not seen before?”

Corey: No. There were a few that I had seen in the Intercept and Interrogation Program, but for the most part, other than Mica, they were new to me.

But species-wise, there were a number of them that had been caught up in the Intercept and Interrogation Program.

David: Of those 52 other people, each representing a race, how many of them do you think could just pass for a human from Earth without any difficulty?

Corey: Many, and many of them are here right now. These beings are a part of this Cosmic Peace Corps that I’ve discussed before.

They’re here assisting humanity, and they blend into areas that are most like them ethnicity-wise. If a group looks more Asian, they’re going to be inserted into the Asian region.

And they are studying us, building up a plan on how to help us. And each of these groups are studying different aspects of our civilization to know how to approach us with a program that will assist us.

David: When I had Law of One discussion forums, going back to ’99 through 2003, thereabouts, a lot of people got confused about Ascension, where like there’s a Rainbow Body ascension where your body completely transforms into light. And then there’s this 4th-density activation that The Law of One talks about.

Do you think these were ascended beings, and if so, what type of ascension had they gone through?

Corey: Yes, they were all what we would consider 4th density, and they had gone through the same energetic change that we had that rearranges their physical molecules, but it’s more of a consciousness shift.

Their consciousness was expanded to a point to where it’d be like going from a 2D world, you know, where everything is flat, to a 3-dimensional world where all of a sudden everything has depth.

We’re going to go through that type of a consciousness shift to where 3D is going to seem like 2D to us.

And once that occurs, we start thinking in a different way and interacting in a different way. We understand how to control our co-creative consciousness and create whatever reality we want.

We’re able to have control over matter.

David: But if they popped into 4th density fairly quickly, then you’re not seeing them with larger eyes or skinnier faces or anything like this.

Corey: They don’t look any different really than they did before they went through that change.

David: Interesting.

“Now that humanity is on the council, how often do they meet and who is humanity’s representative?”

Corey: Well, humanity is humanity’s representative. Now, this hasn’t kicked in yet. They’re not meeting yet. It’s all being prepared and organized.

And the current Super Federation is going through the process of winding down their projects and curtailing them. So we’re not having meetings yet.

David: When you say “all of humanity is humanity’s representative”, does that imply that there will be some sort of governing aspect to it, that it’s not just going to be one person making decisions?

Corey: No, it’s not going to be one person. It will most likely be how it is now: a different person from each region rotating in periodically.

David: Representing a democratic vote for that region.

Corey: No. They’ll be representing the entire Earth, but they’ll have representatives from each region so that they know that everyone’s being fully represented.

David: What do you mean by “region”, though?

Corey: Well, you know, like Asia, Africa . . . and within there, we have different countries, and people will rise up as ambassadors in each of those, and they will be rotated through the program.

David: And the way this is designed is intended for everyone to have a voice.

Corey: Right.

David: So those representatives will be pooling information about what their people want and what they’re looking for and bringing that to the attention of this council.

Corey: Right. And just representing the entire globe but from their regional perspective. And that way we get the full perspective of every region in the management.

David: Okay, the next question would be . . . and this is a little bit of a confused question perhaps:

“Who currently is giving orders to Solar Warden, the SSP Alliance and the MIC SSP?”

Corey: Oh, it’s very complicated. The SSP Alliance has its own council that makes decisions. Usually, they obey the council. Sometimes they don’t.

A lot of the command and control of the Military-Industrial Complex SSP is technologically done from places like Eglin Air Force Base and MacDill.

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But the decision-making is occurring at places like the DoD and the DIA within the DOD.

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Now, the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC) controls the production of the technologies that go to all the different space programs.

But all the different space programs are headed by different organizations, all of which at one point were infiltrated and controlled by the Cabal.

David: What about Solar Warden?

Corey: Solar Warden is no longer called that. I’m trying to get the current operational name. It’s had several, but it is also controlled through the DoD but on the Naval Intelligence side.

David: Well, I thought it was a breakaway civilization, though, so how would the DoD control any aspect of it?

Corey: The Solar Warden program was not a full breakaway civilization.

The full breakaway civilization is basically the ICC and the Nazi faction.

David: Oh.

Corey: They are completely broken away, and there is no . . . I mean, there is no command and control on the Earth at all.

The military organizations or programs have command and control on the planet. So, therefore, they could not be a fully brokeaway civilization.

David: Okay, the next question is kind of an interesting one.

“Who on Earth is the MAIN human interface for the Draco?”

Corey: There’s not one main interface. There’s an organization that, I’ve been told, does most of the interfacing with the Draco.

And it’s the Council of 200, and they’re made up of elite types, financial elite types, from all over the planet.

David: Now there is this idea that in the highest, highest levels of the secret societies, they have something called the Palladian Rite, where the goal is to become the GLOVE of the secret powers that run the Cabal.

So do you think that some of these guys are using the Palladian Rite and doing a telepathic interface sometimes with the Draco?

Corey: Well, the Draco are interfacing with people all the time just like the Anshar are.

David: Mm.

Corey: A lot of times they have . . . they’ll do out-of-body experiences and go to people’s homes and stuff like that.

The main body that has access to these Draco Royals is this Council of 200.

David: Next question we have is one you’ve tackled before, but it has come up again.

“Why can’t we get any good pictures of ETs or UFOs from the work that you’ve been doing? And why wouldn’t the Alliance be able to authorize the release of photos or video of things that they want us to know about at this point?”

Corey: Well, the Alliance is in negotiations, basically, with the Cabal, negotiating their surrender. So they’re going to do everything according to this plan.

David: So would part of the plan involve them releasing videos and photos that are real at some point?

Corey: At SOME point, but at this time, it’s really against the cosmic law. They’re interacting with beings that are a part of this cosmic law, and they’re not supposed to show us video or images of these beings.

People have given me a lot of problems, saying, “Why don’t you take photos or whatever?” But, you know, even if I did deliver a photo or a video, people are going to say, “Well, that’s just CGI. He did it on a computer.”

So photos, these days, are not the proof that most people claim.

David: Well, since this comes up so often, let me give you a paraphrase of something that’s in The Law of One several times where they talk about the idea that their mission is to offer truth without proof. And they even make it rhyme.

And they say that their goal, their mission, is to seed mystery so that it incites a path of seeking.

Corey: Well, we’re supposed to have a natural consciousness progression. These giant consciousness jumps are, I don’t think, healthy.

I think that we’re supposed to go through the process. And a part of that process is learning the truth, expanding our consciousness through these new truths.

It’s a process that we’re all supposed to go through.

David: The Law of One also says that the process of mystery that’s not fully realized as fact creates the facility of will and faith.

Have they ever spoken to you about the importance of will and faith?

Corey: Well, yes. Will goes directly to co-creating and so does faith. They both are important components in co-creating with our co-creative consciousness.

David: So in a sense, this material is withheld from us to inspire our growth, to inspire us to reach out, to seek, to want to figure out how we could be more involved in this world that you’re telling us about.

Corey: Yes, and to have a natural evolution, progression of evolution, consciousness-wise.

David: Okay. The next question is:

“Now that the genetic experiments are being wound down, how do we know that the people here on Earth who are the products of those experiments are not just going to be taken away from Earth and pawned off into other star systems for the experiments to continue elsewhere?”

Corey: Well, it’d be very difficult for them to do [that] with this blockade set up.

All of the genetics that are here on the planet are considered human property now.

All of the genetics here are ours to do what we wish with.

David: So it’s not as if it would be possible as these Super Federation groups leave to take the humans that they tinkered with along with them and just seed them somewhere else. They would be blocked if they tried it.

Corey: Right. Now one thing that will happen is that the ones that are here incarnated, a lot of them may . . . we may perceive a large group of people dying, but it will just be these people going home, back home to their soul group.

You know, they were here as a part of the experiment, and now it’s time for them to go back, so they vacate the bodies.

David: Well, and that could be part of what happens in the Solar Flash or flashes.

Corey: Could be.

David: Okay. The next question is:

“What can people in this community do to start prepping friends or family who have no idea about what is going on, and we’re aware of these epic changes that are coming our way? How can we help to prepare people who might not have any knowledge of this yet?”

Corey: Well, this is the perfect time because we’re going through what Tear-Eir stated was this Great Awakening.

Everyone is starting to stretch their arms, look around, and realize that they were asleep.

Now, don’t go to your friends and families and talk about a message from 8′ tall blue birds or talking about ETs that are crazy looking.

What they need to do is approach their family members and begin to seed them with the information about the Secret Space Program, the human technologies that have been developed out – the technologies that are out there but have been kept from us.

When it comes to healing us, providing free energy, water desalination, feeding the planet, all of those things are available.

David: So would you also say that the best way to handle this would be to wait for those teachable opportunities when somebody actually asks a question and has a particular interest?

Corey: You can plant seeds. If you see . . . If there’s something going on in the news, and you see they’re agitated about it, then you can go in and sprinkle in a little bit of extra information.

“Did you know that we have other space stations out there that we haven’t been told about? You know the triangle craft that we’ve heard about being a UFO? Those are ours. We’re flying to and from space.”

And people can believe that easier. They’re like, “Oh, yeah. Okay.”

And then they start asking, “Well, what other kind of technologies are they keeping from us?”

It’s that type of expansion.

If we go immediately to them about aliens when they’ve been programmed to reject anything that has to do with aliens, we’re not going to get anywhere.

David: Well, let me just run this by you, too.

One of the things that I have found works really well is what I call the “Rule of 10%”. And that is: tell people 10% of what you really want to say and then stop and wait for them to respond.

How do you feel about that as opposed to . . . ? Because I think a lot of people do the big monologue, and that’s really dangerous.

Corey: Yeah, people . . . They get lost in the . . . Yeah, that’s a good . . . Small, easy-to-digest bites is the way to feed people.

David: And then if somebody changes the subject, you don’t necessarily want to try to keep pushing it.

Corey: No.

David: You wait till they think about it and come back later.

Corey: You plant the seed and walk away.

David: Right. Well, this has been very interesting, and thank you for answering everyone’s questions, Corey.

And I want to thank you for watching and being so engaged that you send us these questions. We’re happy to answer them.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode, and thank you for watching.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Extreme Experiments With Alien Hybrids

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with our special guest, Emery Smith.

So in the previous episode, we were talking about some of these genetic programs that you were involved with in which extraterrestrial DNA was being blended with human DNA. And this gets into some very strange things.

Emery Smith: Yes.

David: And you had mentioned hybrids.

Emery: Right.

David: So hybrid beings might have qualities that are different from regular humans, as you said.

Emery: Right. Right. Like, humanoid extraterrestrials similar to us and similar to our DNA are a great match to make a hybrid.

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And, of course, they may have other abilities that we don’t have like exceptional hearing, smell, taste. You know, all the senses might be a little bit different or elevated,especially their neurological system and their brains. But they’re all compatible. So it’s very interesting.

But during a lot of the hybrid testing, it wasn’t like it just was that easy. They made a lot of mistakes. There were a lot of mutations.

And during the mutations, they thought that was good, because they would come out a little bit different, such as reduced cognitive function and a very short fuse, we’ll say. They became angry, some of the hybrids.

So they made an entire different program based on making sure they could mutate them.

And that was a different project, a different location on this planet, that was also run by the same MILABs.

So they took the mutation of these genes of all these mutated creatures, and then started mutating them even more, more, more and more.

And then they became so mutated that the cells were actually dying too quickly.

And they were able to add proteins to them to re-animate the body, even though it was brain dead.

David: So this is similar to the concept of the zombie.

Emery: Exactly, yeah.

David: So I have heard from others before you and I ever talked about this about the zombie program. And Corey Goode independently said that he was aware of it.

He might not have thought that it was as prevalent as some of the stuff that you’ve told me, but, again, nobody really has access to all the compartments.

So let’s go into this a little bit.

I guess to frame the discussion, first of all, we have to remember some of the people working in this black ops world are straight ahead Satanic Cabal. Correct?

Emery: Correct.

David: Were you made aware of certain groups that had a depopulation agenda, for example?

Emery: Yes, absolutely.

David: And what was their reasoning behind wanting to reduce the Earth’s population? What was the excuse that they would use?

Emery: Control. Yeah, it’s getting too out of control for them to control. There’s too many people for them to control.

David: So by lowering the population, they could create the New World Order concept?

Emery: Correct.

David: Okay. With people that have that kind of psychopathic, cultish background, why would they see this as useful? What would be the agenda here?

Emery: Well, they made it look like they could use it for maybe war or something, dropping in some psychopathic hybrids in an area and killing a bunch of people, but it actually became more ego-oriented with the Cabal.

And what I mean by that is they were funding a lot of money into these underground . . . amazing underground facilities that were growing all sorts of hideous things, mixing all sorts of hybrid DNA.

Don’t forget this is all because we were mixing ET DNA with human DNA and not doing it . . . maybe it’s just at the right temperature, and things would happen.

They would mutate into very different things, because it does have to be just right.

David: Now, most people who are familiar with traditional ufology are going to be thinking Dulce, New Mexico. Have you ever gotten confirmation of that kind of stuff being in Dulce?

Emery: No. Actually, I’ve heard of them storing a few of these beings there – a “few” meaning a few hundred – but actually it was at a separate facility not in North America. That is the underground facility.

And mainly it was for safety, because if something were to break out, such as a virus or something, they didn’t want it to be HERE first, even though the funders are from . . . live here, and the corporations are based out of the United States of America.

David: In a previous episode, you mentioned some sort of weird bear-human hybrid breaking out and causing a lot of damage.

Is that different from what we’re talking about now, or is this a similar type of idea?

Emery: It’s different. They were really trying to make a type of hybrid animal, actually, but it didn’t have human DNA in it. It was more animalistic and programmable.

And it was more geared up for, like, the osseointegration projects in the early, early years of making a super-warrior animal that could assist the troops or at least just be dropped in a zone and destroy everything before it was killed.

David: So these hybrids that we’re talking about now, they have extraterrestrial DNA, but would they look extraterrestrial?

Emery: They may or may not, depending on the percentage of DNA that they have that is human, because they have to have a pretty close match, number one, for it to work.

And that’s when mutation happens. When you push the envelope of percentages of human genomes and interacting with making a human from two different types of genes, it can get really tricky. That’s why they had all these mutations.

But then, the more human extraterrestrial DNA they got that was more similar to humans, using humanoid extraterrestrial, then they perfected it so it would be okay.

David: So what were some of the extraterrestrial genetic components that advanced these hybrids over what we would normally be like? What were some of the special features, let’s say?

Emery: Well, it could be anything from height, higher metabolism, that you didn’t have to eat as much, eyesight would be amazingly increased, taste.

All the senses are usually enhanced, but the most important thing was cognitive function and also having a better awareness than a normal human. So they were more aware than a normal human.

And they also had higher IQs than humans.

David: When we’re dealing with these malevolent hybrids, these zombie humanoids, what aspect of extraterrestrial genetics was added, and how did that affect them?

Emery: What happens is: when they’re making hybridization, many things can go wrong.

Like I said, it could be just a small temperature thing when they’re growing these beings.

And once they start mutating, then you’ve basically lost the entire project. Once a cell starts mutating, then it’s not going to come out perfect. It’s going to be very different as far as cognitive function.

And what they do is they’ll add chemicals and amino acids and peptides and hormones, and they’ll try to regulate it.

And if it doesn’t go well, they still let it grow. And then they take that genetic DNA from this, and then take it over to that place, that other MILAB. And they usually shipped the whole being and everything.

And then it’s stored there for THOSE scientists to make it even worse. You know, they may add animal DNA to it. They may try to make a disgusting creature or being.

And that’s why I said it was ego-related because it is being funded, but it wasn’t performing anything. There was no performance factor.

Like, we always had performance factors for ALL of our MILABs.

If you don’t meet your performance factor, your whole project gets shut down, and that might mean just meeting a quota.

Or it might mean collecting more ETs or beings or whatever.

So getting back to what you just said, it has to do with when we’re growing these beings, if they’re going to come out good or not, all depends on the environment and if the DNA is a match or not.

And if not, then they would genetically, and using frequencies, try to trick the DNA to making it THINK it’s a match.

David: Uh!

Emery: Yes.

David: So if we’re having a program that doesn’t really have a desirable outcome right off the bat, there’s no immediate benefit.

With these psychopathic Cabal people, they’re looking at it in a different way.

Are they looking at it as a weapon system of some kind?

Emery: Kind of a fear factor, depopulization factor, you know, they could easily introduce a couple of these beings.

They might go into a city, carry a virus, and easily transmit this virus to a human, and that human would mutate as well.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes! Yeah, not instantaneously, but pretty quickly.

David: It would appear, then, that the media has already been greatly telegraphing something like this.

Emery: Sure.

David: In other words, there’s a LOT of movies, and there’s a lot of television shows like “The Walking Dead”.

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Emery: Well, right.

David: Even the second “Maze Runner” movie turns out to all be zombies.

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So it’s as if they’re telegraphing something that they know they already HAVE to generate more fear.

Would you say that’s true?

Emery: Yes, that’s exactly true. So I really believe though, even though they may have thousands and thousands of these beings ready to go or doing what they want to do, however they’re utilizing it, you know, setting up centers to do mock infections, underground cities and stuff, and using real people for that and clones and programmed life form clones to be utilized in these mass releases of these creatures into a population to see what would happen.

David: You’re saying simulations.

Emery: Simulations, yeah. And I think it’s more for the enjoyment of the Cabal, to be honest.

Because I do not believe that the extraterrestrials would EVER let something like that happen.

And I also don’t believe the Alliance [Earth Alliance] is going to let that happen either.

David: Well, it’s interesting because I have another high level insider that gave me a lot of information about the zombie program. And he said that there have been multiple times that the Cabal THOUGHT they were going to release some of these creatures into our society.

And they would have angelic intervention. They would have benevolent ETs, light being type ETs, the REALLY advanced ones, that would completely stop anything like that from happening.

And so what he said was that they ultimately had to scrap enormous programs that they thought they were going to be able to use, because no matter how they tried, no matter which way they tried to flip it around, they just couldn’t get it “authorized”.

It’s always about authorization for them.

Emery: Right.

David: So would you feel that’s true?

Emery: Yeah, I would say that’s very accurate.

David: Let’s talk a little bit about these simulations, because what you’re describing now is something you and I have talked about quite a bit. And it is disturbing, but I think it’s important to get a little bit deeper into it than you did.

Paint the picture now for what would happen in a particular underground facility if they were going to make a simulation. What would we see, like . . . just as the chessboard?

Emery: It would be like a Hollywood production studio set up where they would take a center of maybe Miami or just a city anywhere and then mimic a few blocks of that in an area.

David: Okay.

Emery: And then cloned humans that they would just wake up already programmed with something in their head, like they think they lived there their whole lives or whatever, . . .

David: And they wouldn’t realize they were in an underground base at all.

Emery: They would not even realize that because they’re going to be dead in 10 minutes or infected.

David: Right.

Emery: Because you have to remember this has to do with depopulation programming.

So what they want to know with these simulations is one thing. How fast can we get this virus to spread? And how are the people going to react?

And how many of them are going to fight back, and how many won’t?

And who are they going to call? You know, who are they calling?

David: Right.

Emery: So they’re very smart about what things to look for, but I think it’s just a big chess game for them. I think it’s just a big fantasy game.

I don’t believe . . . but billions and billions of dollars are put into these little chess game projects.

David: How would a particular simulation come to a conclusion? How long does it run, and how do they conclude it?

Emery: They conclude it when all the humans are dead, and the virus has spread.

David: So you and I have talked about the “Resident Evil” movie series.

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Emery: Right, yeah.

David: And we’ve watched some of them together.

Emery: Sure.

David: So how does “Resident Evil” play into this? I mean, it’s a large movie series. There’s like nine of them or something.

Emery: Well, you have the Cabal. I mean, it’s a perfect description of a Cabal.

David: There’s this umbrella corporation.

Emery: Yeah, this corporation umbrella. And they basically were a regenerative medicine corporation, if you read actually the storybook of whoever wrote it.

And what they were doing is trying to regenerate cells for face creams. So it’s a great storyline because a lot of these big pharma corporations are behind it . . . of a lot of these things.

So this medicine actually went bad and started actually destroying the skin cells, but it also re-animated them at the same time. So it was really new.

It was kind of like destroying, dying, killing, dying . . . because you want to kill your skin cells so that they grow back faster.

So it was a great concept.

And the thing was they had an underground base somewhere in the United States of America, which was very realistic.

David: In the movie.

Emery: In the movie, which was very realistic.

David: And that’s the Hive, right?

Emery: Yeah, the Hive.

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And I couldn’t believe they actually show schematics because there’s many bases that have this hive-looking type base on that movie.

David: So it’s very, very accurate.

Emery: VERY accurate.

David: One of the things that I thought was so weird about this movie . . . First of all, the “Resident Evil” movies are all basically zombie films.

Emery: Yes. Right.

David: Pretty much zombies show up in every movie.

Emery: Right.

David: So you go in. You have this Templar type of symbol for Umbrella Corporation.

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They show you this over and over again. And then you have this underground city.

And one of the things that I found really weird, Emery, was the number of props, the number of details, the amount of sets that seemed overkill. Like, you don’t need that much detail.

Emery: Right.

David: And so how did the scenes in the movie equate with what you actually knew to be true?

Emery: Absolutely. It was probably one of the most realistic sets I’ve ever seen in my life.

David: Really?

Emery: I was actually shocked the first time I saw it because I could not believe they would show people such detail of security, detail of how the lab is set up.

Even the props were real props – the vacuum closed system rooms, the overhead hoods with the gloves and using the special boxes to keep the viruses in.

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Especially what got me was the dogs that they use for being aware of certain chemicals.

That all the viruses in these vats, if you break one, has a special chemical in it that the computer knows it’s in the air system.

And then the dogs start barking, alarms start going off.

So it was very accurate, especially utilizing an underground base. Having a secret entrance a couple miles away from the base is very popular.

Having two agents that play husband and wife is very popular. You might have someone living right next door, and that’s really an entrance to a base in a suburbia. You wouldn’t even know it.

So it’s a very interesting storyline.

Everything in there was very accurate as far as the AI as well. They use a lot of AI now for running the base because they don’t trust humans.

David: And there’s also these sort of boss enemies in the movie, these weird, hybrid, grotesque beings that are not just the typical zombies, but like . . .

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Emery: Oh, right. And that’s a perfect description of the mutated extraterrestrials and humans.

So they can get up very large, these beings, and very grotesque looking, and only have one thing on their mind.

And they do mind control on those beings too and program them to go to this place and kill this or destroy everything.

So they have the ability because they have the cerebral cortex still working.

David: Let’s talk a little bit about what are some of the countermeasures that have been done, even with people here, to stop this.

Emery: Well, I think, like I told you before, anything that’s going to destroy more than 70~75% of the population, the ETs are not going to let happen.

So if they were to release a virus like that, it would destroy pretty much the entire population almost unless you have the antibodies for that.

So I think it won’t happen, number one. And number two, if it did, I’m sure the white hats and the Alliance already have an antigen for that could easily be put in the atmosphere, and we would all be fine.

I mean, I really think they have our backs.

David: Has the Alliance been actively invading these facilities and shutting them down?

Emery: Uh-huh.

David: Is that part of the . . .

Emery: Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

David: Because I’ve heard this from other . . .

Emery: Yes, they’ve been getting in there. They have a lot of moles in there seeing how far they’re going and securing our best interests at hand, for sure.

And that’s why I’m not really concerned about it.

So it’s more of just an ego, like I said, thing.

David: Right. And I’ve heard from other insiders that they’ve just hit a brick wall.

Any time the Cabal has tried to do even the tiniest bit of this stuff, they just hit brick wall, brick wall. [They] can’t get it to work.

Emery: They can’t because they’re trying to put DNA together. They don’t have the right people. They’re having some really severe issues, like I said, mixing the DNA.

Of course, let’s say, for instance, like, dogs: you can mate dogs all over the place, I mean, all different kinds of dogs. They can all have puppies.

David: And they’re all descended from wolves, usually.

Emery: Right. They all come from one, the wolf.

So what they don’t understand is you can’t get certain mutated ET DNA with human ET with another mutated different ET human and try to make something out of that, because those are definitely not from one.

David: Right.

Emery: Because they’re from multiple different . . .

David: All right. Well, let me ask you this.

Emery: Yeah.

David: If we’re looking at us evolving and becoming a spacefaring race, which . . . We already have the technology. It’s just not being disclosed to the majority of us.

Then much in the same way that we have different races on Earth that actually . . . From what some insiders tell me, the races we have on Earth are much more different looking from one another than most other ET planets, that they’re often very similar looking to each other.

Would you say that’s true?

Emery: Absolutely, that’s true. We’re a very diverse society. So we have many different lineages from many different extraterrestrials, but we’re still all able to mate and have children. But we still have very different lineages.

You’re correct.

David: So as we grow up and become more of a galactic family, how does this work in terms of sexual reproduction with other humans that might have evolved on other Earth-like planets?

Is that possible based on your knowledge?

Emery: Based on my knowledge, absolutely possible, 100%, and it’s kind of like the dog theory. Like, there are many different kinds of dogs, there’s many different kinds of humans, but guess what? We all come from one.

David: So how do you think this could play out in terms of maybe the greater plan of how we evolve through the changing conditions on Earth?

I mean, I don’t know what you’ve heard about this, but we’ve talked a lot about the changes in the Sun, the changes in the Solar System, and that life on Earth, that the conditions will be very different.

Have you heard about the idea that our Solar System is undergoing some sort of change?

Emery: Yes, I think you’re probably referring to the Solar Flare and different other planets nearby.

There IS a huge change in the Solar System. Absolutely. And we WILL be affected.

Our light bodies WILL be affected by this.

David: So do you think that if we start to meet other races and we begin to have this sort of cross-cultural coupling take place, that this could be part of how humanity evolves in some way?

Emery: Not only evolves, it’s how humanity survives.

David: What are some of the positive aspects that might happen? Like, let’s say that we meet up with a race that’s much more spiritually adept.

Like, if we coupled . . . Like for example, you look at Greek mythology, right? You have “gods”. You have what they would call “men”. And then you have “heroes”.

And the heroes are the offspring of gods and men.

But heroes would be like Hercules. These are people that have stupendous superpowers. And they’re not even full gods.

So are you aware of there being humans out there that have abilities like what the gods would have had in the Greek mythology?

Emery: Yes, I am.

David: And this would include what kinds of superpowers?

Emery: Well, powers that we would look in our history of like levitation, not having to eat, things like that, able to produce light and fire, able to travel in space, able to not have to worry about temperature, not have to worry about oxygen.

David: Bilocation?

Emery: Yeah, bilocation.

David: Telepathy?

Emery: Yeah, telepathy is a big one. A lot of cognitive function powers that we don’t have that is just so far above us we wouldn’t understand, because they’re able to connect to the cosmos.

David: Do you think that at some point people like this might deliberately want to start coupling with us in order to . . . for the greater good in some sense, like the idea of heroes being born?

Emery: I do believe that. We ARE the superheroes of the universe . . .earthlings, believe it or not. They look upon us as the superheroes, because if we don’t exist, they don’t exist.

And they also look at us like, “Wow! They get to taste and hear and smell and see.” And they don’t know. Some of them don’t know what that is.

You know, some don’t have full digestive systems because their planetary atmosphere gives them everything they need.

So we ARE looked at as heroes, believe it or not.

We look into the movies and look at these extraterrestrials in the skies above like, “Wow! That’s so amazing.”

But really, they’re looking back saying the same thing.

David: There’s a lot of talk about the pineal gland. So many ancient cultures . . . This gland in the middle of the brain . . . And I studied the physiology.

Emery: I know you have, right.

David: And it’s got retinal tissue.

Emery: That’s right.

David: And there’s this water in there. And so we’re hearing that . . . From various insiders, I’ve heard that the pineal gland functions as a stargate, and that if we have a fully activated pineal gland, that we would be like gods. We could go wherever we want.

So don’t you get the sense with all these humans out there, and how advanced they are, that we’re spring loaded?

There’s something about this that we’re not using.

Emery: No. We have everything that everyone else has. We’re just not activated yet.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: You know? And it’s silly because that’s why we are the superheroes. We have more than everyone else, believe it or not.

So it’s like if we could just figure out that code and get that download and ascend properly, then we could be a flash of light or take this form or any form we want.

David: One of the interesting things that Corey Goode has shared with us is this concept that a variety of different ET groups, and a lot of which are more human like that in his program they call genetic farmers, were apparently taking the very best ascension type of DNA and then mixing it all together here . . . that they had 22 major different programs on Earth.

So do you think it’s possible that . . . I mean, because you kind of said that.

Emery: Yes.

David: Something not quite as specific as I said, but do you think that Earth might be sort of like a garden in which these advanced super powers have been stored inside of us for future activation?

Emery: Yes. That’s exactly right. It’s the womb that we’re still growing in, and still evolving in, and waiting to be activated, and reaching out, making the intention to reach out, to be activated, and to ask for other cultures to visit and to be part of that.

David: When I read the “Law of One” material, I started to have psychic experiences. I started to hear voices that were benevolent, positive, giving me positive guidance. And they call that tuning.

And so I’m curious if you feel that even apart from the sexual reproduction thing, just simply being exposed to advanced humans, simply talking to them or being in their presence, would start to activate.

Emery: It would totally activate. Your field that you put off is everywhere. And it’s, of course, right here most concentrated.

So being in another person’s field, someone comes home angry, and then everyone else gets angry in the house.

Or someone comes home laughing and giggling, the angry person at home starts laughing and giggling.

It’s the same concept, but it actually does a frequency change to modify DNA by being around people that you want to be around and being around beings that have a little bit more, let’s say, energy and frequency than you do, because it ups your frequency, because you have to get to that frequency.

David: I remember talking to Henry Deacon, who was the first really heavy duty space program insider who I got to talk to.

Unfortunately, he’s never been willing to come forward now. He did come forward a little bit back in 2009 in public after talking to me for two years. We had extensive conversations.

And he said that the feeling of love and peace around some of these extraterrestrial humans was so amazing that it was literally . . . it would bring you to tears.

Emery: Yes, overwhelming. First hand experience is the most overwhelming feeling of love and compassion, and you can’t even speak.

You’re just so overwhelmed with this joy feeling, and you do. You start crying. You might fall to your knees. You might just pass right out. It’s THAT intense.

Because what these . . . not all extraterrestrials, but most of them have this ability and compassion for us, and they love us so much that if you get next to one of these extraterrestrials, you cannot even . . . you’ll just get all teary eyed and laugh and cry at the same time.

It’s a beautiful, beautiful thing.

David: That’s really amazing.

Emery: Right.

David: Well, I want to thank you again for bravely exposing some of the things that are going on. And I do believe that when we speak truth to the power, we empower the truth.

Thank you, Emery, for being here.

Emery: You’re welcome.

David: And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And I’m here with Emery Smith.


Cosmic Disclosure: Programming Human-Alien Hybrids

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here again with our special guest, Emery Smith.

In this episode, we’re going to be getting into extraterrestrial and human hybridization and some of the very bizarre research that he was involved in on that subject.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Thanks for having me.

David: When you have told us about the work that you did with the autopsies of extraterrestrial bodies, it’s a very curious subject for me because obviously these bodies are coming from somewhere.

Emery: Right.

David: But the scope of how many you yourself autopsied – you say, including all the tissue samples and everything, 3,000, roughly . . .

Emery: Yeah. Specimens – tissue samples and beings, yeah.

David: The sheer genetic diversity of all that material, and then the idea of: if light speed is a barrier for travel, how could there be so many extraterrestrials that we would even be able to get our hands on?

Or is light speed not a barrier to your understanding?

Emery: Oh, light speed definitely is not a barrier for extraterrestrials.

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And that’s a great point to correlate with the amount of numbers of tissue specimen autopsies I’ve done, and the number of operating rooms that are down there that are running 24/7, . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . and the number of living habitable worlds just in our own Solar System.

David: Right.

Emery: So the numbers are not a lot. We look at it like it’s a lot of numbers, but as you pointed out, with everything else that’s going on in the universe, and all the different habitable worlds that’s been proven, if you really think about it, it’s not a big number for just one little planet to have all these different specimens.

And what’s not to say all these specimens came from outer space? Maybe they came from inside the Earth in different places. Maybe they DID open up some cavities and found different living things.

Maybe some things have been coming through portals as well that we’re unaware of that they’ve been collecting, which is a whole other subject.

But what’s going on is basically we do know one thing: they HAVE specimens. And they’re taking this DNA, and they’re mixing it with human DNA, and they’re trying to make the human a little bit more powerful, a little bit more stronger and trying to also incorporate that to a super-soldier program to have stronger bones, you know, have a faster thought process, and these things.

David: Again, it was very surprising to me when we were talking about you seeing a Reptilian-type of being apparently in custody of two people. You said it was 10′ tall, but that for you at that point in time, it could just as easily, or maybe more easily, have been something that we grew, or we made.

You weren’t necessarily convinced you were seeing an extraterrestrial.

What led you to having that level of confidence that such a thing could have even been accomplished?

Emery: Well, number one, just seeing something like that, it’s hard for me to believe too much that I see when it’s like that brought out in the open. And it’s usually sometimes done intentionally and sometimes not.

But after working on the cell collection job, I also later on went into the super-soldier program where they were mixing hybrid DNA with human DNA in Petri dishes, of course, really small level stuff, and also the osseointegration program of mixing tissue into titanium and allowing tissue to grow inside titanium and making our bones stronger.

David: How does that work? That seems to be pretty far out stuff. Titanium you wouldn’t think is going to be able to blend with living tissue, per se.

Emery: That’s what we all thought, but with the advent of new materials out there and the nanoparticles of the surface of the titanium, they have now mastered it and mimicked bone marrow.

You know bone marrow, when you cut into your steak, and you have that mushy, spongy type?

David: Sure.

Emery: Well, they have mimicked that exactly into titanium. Then they put stem cells, and growth factors, and tissue, bone cells, in there, and it grows and just flourishes inside titanium.

David: Really?

Emery: And the body accepts it as a natural . . . It doesn’t resist titanium.

So steel and titanium is used in surgery all the time. So they learned this is going to be a great way to reinforce anyone’s bones, number one, and to allow them to withstand a lot more pressure.

They were having problems, of course, with the muscles and tendons. Muscles they can grow to infinite.

The tendons were the problem because the tenocytes are the hardest thing to grow, and it couldn’t support the weight of the extra metal, and the bone, and the strong muscle.

So then they started looking into hybridization of DNA with stronger tenocytes from other living creatures.

David: Well, you whizzed through a lot of stuff really fast there, so let’s try to break this down into chunks.

First of all, yes, I’ve heard about people having titanium rod in their leg, titanium bolts holding their bones together, that kind of thing, but are we talking about something that can be introduced into a healthy living adult, or are we talking about something that has to be manufactured in conjunction with biological tissue as it grows, like a . . .

Emery: Correct.

David: . . . designer being?

Emery: That’s correct. It used to be: let’s just reinforce this person, see what happens, which is a very . . . you know, it’s surgical. It’s a very brutal type thing.

But now, with the advent of 3D printing organs and tissues, all I need is a piece of your DNA, and I can 3D-print you over nine months and have you, your body and your everything.

Even you will recoup a lot of your memory because it’s stored in the DNA.

David: Hm.

Emery: So what I’m getting at is: what if I put the titanium already into the vat and 3D-printed you over the titanium with all the articulate cartilage and metaprogram?

And I could program, like you said, the kind of soldier I want.

David: So you’re growing it life-adult size from the beginning?

Emery: Correct.

David: Well, normally, a human is going to take 13, 14 years to reach adult height, maybe even longer.

Emery: Right.

David: So how would they accelerate the gestation growth process?

Emery: Yeah, they do that . . . Nine to 24 months, they can make a complete body.

And they do that with the advancement of neurotransmitter chemicals, and hormones, and special amino acids from un-Earth origin that allows the body to regenerate faster and the cells.

The problem they’re having is with the brain. It doesn’t grow as fast as everything else.

David: Hm.

Emery: So that’s the problem with when we take a pig heart. The reason we use pig valves in open-heart surgery . . .

David: Sure.

Emery: . . . is because they grow around the exact same time – cells.

Now, if I took a dog heart and put it in you, it would grow SO fast that you would die, because their cells replicate even faster.

David: Hm.

Emery: So what they are trying to do is: let’s find all the species on the planet, and let’s find out who replicates the fastest, and let’s make it more of THAT species than human.

And that way that will be the dominant gene, you know, in that being, but it will have all those attributes of great eyesight . . . .

So they were splicing hundreds of different genes together, which is very difficult to do. And they use very mega supercomputers to do this because of all the algorithms that are done.

And they did it from scratch, and then they keep adding extraterrestrial DNA to it with the extraterrestrial DNA that they have found that is comparable to human DNA as far as the growth rates.

And that’s why I mentioned the pigs, believe it or not, are the closest thing to us. They have the same growth rate.

So once you get all the same growth rate on board, then you’re allowed to add certain things to them and growing conditions to accelerate the hybridization and the growth, and at different times adding different chemicals to that being so that the brain keeps up with it, because the brain is the problem.

David: So you’re saying that the bone marrow of an entire skeleton would be created almost like a chassis or framework and then grown, or is it more . . . ?

Emery: Yea, you can grow the bone over the titanium and just reinforce it. So the titanium is already there.

And then you have these 3D printers that are printing the tissue into and onto the metal or other substances.

There’s other substances they use besides . . . I’m just using titanium as a basis . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . because everyone understands titanium and osseointegration in the science world.

But there are other substances they’re using besides that now that are more flexible and that are more durable to keep these . . . you know, to keep the person, or the soldier, or the programmed life form, or the clone, to last longer in battle or to last longer on mission-oriented missions.

David: So if you print up a being into full adulthood in such a short time – you say as little as nine months – does that also lower its overall lifespan because it hasn’t grown at the slow rate that a human normally would?

Emery: I was not in the project long enough to know about that, but from what I heard, that is true because of the mutations that happen when you grow cells.

Like if I take your cell – like a stem cell – and I grow a bunch of them, some of them are going to be a little whacked off. And that could turn into a mutation.

And then when they found out this happens, they embraced it, because they were now making new species, because they WANTED it to mutate. And then it got really weird.

So then you were having all these different species in one mutating and forming new crazy monsters.

All sorts of weird designs were being made, mixing extraterrestrial DNA with human DNA, with the DNA from different types of bacteria in the ocean, and this, and that, and the other.

And it just got out-of-hand.

And you’d see vats and vats of these beings in stasis that they failed, like the one I told you about, the tiger, the person-tiger.

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David: Part human, part tiger . . .

Emery: Looked like a hum . . .

David: . . . hybrid.

Emery: . . . hybrid, yeah, that was mutated, unfortunately.

David: Is it possible that if you have a being that didn’t work out properly, and it’s kept in stasis, can that genetic material be reused?

Emery: Uh-huh. Yes.

David: Okay. I figured, but it’s . . .

Emery: Excellent question.

David: . . . a little dark, but let’s talk about that.

Emery: Yes. Well, you’re talking about the actual genetic or the cellular material of that being . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . in stasis. Yes, they can do two things. They can terminate the being and liquefy it and then use that amino acids to do other things.

They can also extract the DNA from that and save it and come back to that later if they need a missing something, and basically adding and subtracting things from the DNA is what they’re doing to find out what is going to be able to work together, because the problem is everything wants to fight everything.

Just like when we put someone else’s heart in someone else’s body, there’s a rejection factor.

David: Right.

Emery: There’s a rejection rate. So what they have perfected is getting rid of all that, getting rid of the antigens and antibodies that are saying, “No!”

They are now able to program the cells to accept it even though the body might not last a year. But at least they will have a body to do whatever job.

David: So the lifespan, the fact that it’s so compromised, what does that mean for trying to use clones to build a species?

I would think that that would be . . . It’s almost like this is messing around with something that doesn’t really have the potential to create any lasting life form. It’s more like just a tinkering.

Emery: It IS a tinkering. And tinkering gets my lab money.

So when I make a breakthrough, I’m going to get what I need for my lab for the next year so I can do even MORE tinkering.

But once you get to a spot, which they already have, . . . So they’re already making clones. That’s not a secret.

They’re already making clones and they’re storing them in the thousands. Okay? And they are able to keep these clones alive until they activate them.

And we call these “programmed life form clones” – not just a regular clone that they make, and they use for their own personal exper . . . whatever, . . . assistant.

These are clones that are actually going to be used for something, and I can speculate only the worst, because I wouldn’t want a whole world full of clones that who knows what’s going to happen if they mutate down the road, or how long their lifespan might be.

So they’re probably going to be used for war, because they’re just an asset that can be destroyed.

That’s the only thing I can think of, because I don’t know why they would store so many clones in one area and then this information leak out into the private mil labs.

It could be disinformation, but it’s not. It’s actual real information. And now it’s coming out to the public.

China is already saying they’ll be growing people for their organs. It’s on national news.

So what’s going to happen when they’re 18? You just kill them and take the organ?

I mean, what’s going to happen here? I mean, you’re just growing these people.

David: That’s pretty bizarre.

Emery: Yeah. So it’s a very . . . And 33 people die every day waiting for an organ here, so I get it. But I don’t get it, because those are living creatures, or living organs, or however they’re doing it.

But to say a body is kind of . . . To say that we’re actually going to make a cloned human to harvest its organs is pretty . . .

David: It’s ethically complicated, to say the least.

Emery: Oh! It sends chills up my spine.

Why not just grow the organ, like we’re doing in most places? You know?

David: Right.

Emery: Well, why grow one organ when you can grow a whole body?

David: That’s the way they think.

Emery: Yeah. Ha, ha.

David: Ha, ha. Do you think on some level that they’re hoping that if they do enough of this hybridization that they will be able to improve upon whatever we already are?

In a sense, they don’t maybe have a spiritual view of this being anything perfect. They’re look at it like a machine that they can upgrade.

Emery: THAT is absolutely correct. I believe they are trying to . . .

They stumble upon things during these hybridizations. They stumble upon things that they never knew.

And then some of those things I think may make it to the civilian world to help us heal, but it’s just a very slow and costly thing because that’s how they make their money.

“Hey, we discovered this because we were doing this. But we just stumbled upon this just because we were doing this experiment.

And then they’ll take THAT idea and put it in a box and manufacture it and sell it.

David: One of the extraterrestrial species that Pete Peterson talked about . . . he called them the Simulacs.

And they were apparently a little more simian than humans are, but for whatever reason, I guess they had tails that were . . . the tails could bend.

And they made their fingers . . . They tinkered with their DNA and made their fingers into these long things that could curl like a tail.

I’m curious if you ever saw anything like that in your autopsy work.

Emery: No. But I HAVE seen feet that were hands, like hands – more like hands than feet. And these are very lengthy people, very human but long-jawed, and very white – very white – and beautiful blue eyes.

And they were ectomorphic with the long, lean bones. And they had these big . . . they weren’t feet, but large hands for feet, and just like our hands, like exactly like our hands, but they were feet.

And they were not spread out like this. [Emery puts his hands out, but his fingers are not spread.] They were spread out REALLY wide.

David: Wow!

Emery: The fingers would go very wide, too. And a very small palm for the heel. So I think that was for the weight.

And their legs were the reverse – tibia-fibula was backwards in the femur. So if you switched your joints around, it would go the opposite way, back and up.

David: Interesting.

Emery: Yeah.

David: And when you say long-jawed, do you mean that the face extended down more than ours would?

Emery: Yeah, the jawline, . . . at least an inch, and it was a very thin face. They were very attractive beings.

2 Being With Long Jaw Line

David: What were the size of the eyes like compared to ours?

Emery: Big almond eyes, twice the size of ours.

4 Closeup Of Eyes

Smaller nose. They had teeth just like ours, and they had lips.

They had no eyebrows, and they had . . . Their ears were oval and very small.

David: So here you are day after day. You said some days you might have even done multiple specimens in one shift depending on what the assignment was.

Emery: Right.

David: And we talked in a previous episode about how other genetic teams . . . You’d take a sample out of the cadaver. You’d put it through the wall. Other teams start working on it.

So how extensive do you think this ET-human hybridization is?

Emery: In my own opinion as of today . . . because I know when I left, they had already accomplished it.

So I know as of today, they have already probably duplicated 20, 30 species, like cloned the extraterrestrial species to learn about them.

And they have also mixed their DNA with our DNA.

So I’m sure there is at least 20~30 hybrid species today that can be confirmed. And that’s my opinion and speculation, because I know how many they had about the time I left that they were successful with.

David: And you mentioned that the tiger-human was one type that didn’t really work out.

Emery: At that time, it did not work out.

David: Oh! But it might have worked out later if they kept working on it?

Emery: Yes.

David: So what would be some other examples of a being that actually had been successfully hybridized? What would we see, just if you could give me one example to start with?

Emery: Well, there is one of the avian extraterrestrials that I have met that are different than Mr. Goode’s avians.

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And this birdlike human looked like a pterodactyl.

David: Really?

Emery: And they’re highly intelligent. They’re very nice. They’re very intuitive. Of course, they’re telepathic.

They don’t really fly, but they have very small wings on the back like a pterodactyl.

So imagine a pterodactyl head, that thin, but with a nice mouth underneath, in a body – in a scaly body.

David: So the really long mouth with the teeth?

Emery: Yeah, like the long face, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . and then underneath is a small mouth underneath the jaw.

David: Oh! Wow!

Emery: Yes. So they were successful with making a hybrid one of these.

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And I don’t know if they’re doing that because it would remind people of a demon, or a dragon, or something if they wanted to use it religiously.

David: Hm.

Emery: Because definitely it would get a lot of attention if this thing would walk around downtown because it’s kind of like . . . You know, it’s an ancient dinosaur-looking creature, but it stands upright.

And it’s scaly. And it’s green and red scales.

And it’s very large scales like a fish . . .

David: Hm.

Emery: . . . you know, REALLY large scales.

Now, the back of it has these ridges that go down from . . . It starts at the neck all the way down the spine on both sides.

And it reminds me of the back of a crocodile’s or alligator’s spinous process.

And you know how they have all those little spikes on the back?

David: Sure, yeah.

Emery: Okay. So picture that going all the way down their back into a very, very small tail near the coccyx bone.

David: Hm.

Emery: And that’s what it looked like, and it was beautiful.

David: And it didn’t have clothes?

Emery: No.

David: What was the height?

Emery: 8′.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. I think they made him larger. They were trying to make him REALLY big, but the species itself was around 6′ to 7′. And the hybrid ones were around 8′ to 10′.

So for some reason, they were able to use the human DNA to make these compatible, and I don’t know how they did it, by the way.

David: The species itself, meaning this is not like a hybrid of a human and a pterodactyl. This is some sort of extraterrestrial.

Emery: They took the extraterrestrial pterodactyl and cloned it with a human, and they made this other species.

David: Now, the pterodactyl head, obviously it has a long jaw, but it also has this kind of . . . phalange on the back. [David illustrates the part of the pterodactyl head that protrudes from the back of the head.]

Emery: Yes. Very large phalange, absolutely.

David: So that was there?

Emery: yes.

David: Weird. So that sort of sounds like some of the Egyptian things that we see, like, for example, they have this staff that they’re always holding.

And it has what looks like a pterodactyl head on that.

7 Egyptian Staff With Pterodactyl Head

And I’d always speculated that might be a pterodactyl that had popped through a portal or something.

8 Egyptian Painting With Pterodactyl Staff

Do you think that these pterodactyl-looking beings might have visited the Egyptians and might have been immortalized into that staff or . . . ?

Emery: Because of the head, it’s just a . . . It’s like a given. You kind of know. It’s like, “It’s just like in the Egyptian . . . “

But that’s a speculation. I can’t say that for . . . That’s not my specialty, the Egyptian.

But just looking at it, it’s like a given. It’s like, “My goodness! This is so similar to what they have over there.”

And it’s so ancient, too. And they may have been here, because I heard a lot in history about these pterodactyls and things being caught here, and also people visualizing these, and many different accounts of these beings there. So I don’t know.

David: Could we discuss another example of one of these hybrid beings that was successful that you got to see?

You mentioned a bird-like being but that it was a bird-like being because it was a pterodactyl.

So what would be another one that would jump out as a peculiar example.

Emery: Well, not all the beings are phantasmical from Earth insects and stuff like that, like the praying mantises and people . . . and these other lineages.

But the most fascinating ones are the ones that actually look like us, the ones that are just a little bit different. Maybe they’re a little bit wider, maybe a little bit taller, but they have a face. They have the same digestive system.

And they’re just so much more advanced than us and conscious. And their brains are always larger for some reason.

And that’s one thing I want to point out is: a lot of the most intelligent five star, you know, humanoid-type extraterrestrials is what they really want.

Because for some reason, it’s the most compatible with our DNA. I wonder why.

David: Right.

Emery: I wonder why.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: So with that being said, any time THAT comes in – and I’ve seen these beings before, not only with my experiences on CSETI, but also in the Milabs – they are the easiest to make a hybrid out of.

And THAT’S what they have done. And they have hundreds of these hybrids.

So if they can get their hands on one, then they’re set. It’ll work out.

And they’ve been very successful, meaning these beings are living a very lengthy life, and because of the very similar genetic code. They’re just more advanced, and they have telepathy.

You know, they can do things that we cannot do.

They could be used for good or bad if they would learn how to program them.

David: Well, we’ve had several other insiders talk about Draco-Reptilians as being a group that now with our technology in the secret programs, they might only be 40 years ahead of us in terms of where we’re going secretly.

And in some ways, we’re now actually at parity with them in terms of warfare.

So it would appear that our genetic technology is also becoming comparable with them.

So they hybridized their DNA with humans, . . .

Emery: They did.

David: . . . and then they act like they’re our gods . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . that they get to control us or something.

Emery: Yes.

David: How do you see our understanding of a supreme being evolving with this genetic recombination stuff? It doesn’t . . . I don’t think it really would make us gods. Do you?

Emery: No. I mean, I don’t know what your interpretation of God is, but I don’t believe that at all, because if you have any similar DNA or lineage, that means you can be compatible. You know, you can live peacefully, if you’re at the level of that other civilization is the problem.

They’re waiting for US to get to that right level with everyone else.

And there’s many civilizations all around the universe that started the same time we did. And they’re so far beyond us because they were not held back from free energy and anti-gravity and were not puppeteered.

David: Right.

Emery: And there’s going to be a huge meeting soon with the Galactic Federation. And they will take five leaders from this planet. And they will tell and bring them to this galactic court and say, “Why did you do this?”

And they’re going to say – these world leaders – “What are you talking about? We didn’t do anything.”

And then in the back behind them is a giant screen projecting everything they know to the Galactic Federation. And they are telling the truth.

And then they will see that the 300 major corporations are responsible for the world’s leaders and all the stuff they’ve done to all the people of Earth.

So they will come back and grab them.

David: So you’re talking about some kind of potential criminal trial . . .

Emery: Yes, huge trial.

David: . . . in which lying is impossible.

Emery: It’s impossible. You will not be able to lie. No one will.

David: Right. So there’s a lot of ethical complications with trying to create designer species, but I think that maybe a deeper level we could get into is just to say that if there is a supreme being, it’s the genetics itself that emanates throughout the universe.

And simply combining genetics doesn’t make you a god.

Emery: No. You can’t . . . It’s like being born into royalty or marrying into royalty. It’s still royalty.

The still are going to accept that person.

David: Right.

Emery: So what I’m getting at is that it’s still neutral. We’re still going to get the neutral. It’s not a good or bad. It’s just still the same. It’s what is programmed and what your belief system is that gets in the way.

So no one deserves to control anyone against their free will.

David: All right. Well, that’s all the time we have in this episode. Emery, thank you very much.

Emery: You’re welcome.

David: And I want to thank you out there for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: New Discoveries of the Ancient Builder Race

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I am here with Corey Goode for his fascinating cosmic updates. And in this episode, we’re going to cover the return of the Ancient Builder Race.

Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we are in the middle of a very important scene here with a cliffhanger. You were told you were going to get a tour of the LOC [Lunar Operation Command], and you mentioned for the first time on this show that there are actually three of them.

So could you tell us a little bit more about what was that tour going to be, and why is it relevant?

Corey: I was told that I was going to be able to tour some ancient facilities that the three LOCs were built around.

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David: Oh, really?

Corey: Right. Immediately after the briefing had concluded, we were escorted directly to that tour, but the briefing wasn’t over.

What occurred was the window that was against the wall that had the moonscape scene, one of the large smart-glass pad screens lowered from the ceiling.

And Sigmund stood up, and he said, “I’ve got a treat for the both of you.”

2 Sigmund Pointing To Smart Glass Pad Screen

He stood next to the screen, and then pivoted back toward us at the table, and he said, “For some time, we have been observing what appears to be a derelict craft that’s been coming towards our Solar System, and it’s, you know, one of the many things out there that we’re monitoring.”

3 Close Up Of Derelict Craft On Smart Glass Pad

David: Did you have a sense as to what he meant by “for some time”? Are we talking many years?

Corey: That’s all I got.

David: Hm.

Corey: So I know they’ve probably been tracking it for many years.

David: Hm. Okay.

Corey: He said, “We were observing it with key interest, because it was getting closer and closer to the Outer Barrier.”

4 Outer Barrier Around The Solar System

And the region where the Outer Barrier is, they were kind of interested to see what would happen when the craft interacted with the Barrier, . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . like what type . . .you know. They could gather intel.

5 Craft Approaching Outer Barrier

David: Did they have any intel on . . . like if a spacecraft had tried to escape our Solar System and hit the Barrier, does it explode? What actually happens if something strikes the Barrier?

Corey: It seemed to be kind of like a plastic or something that held them back.

David: Oh!

Corey: They would try to go, and it would hold them back.

David: So it didn’t necessarily destroy them, but it just would stretch?

Corey: Right.

David: Okay.

Corey: Right.

David: So how much information were they able to gather about this craft? Like, were they observing it up close? Were they landing on it?

Corey: Well, they were gathering telemetry for a while, and they were watching it approach the Barrier.

David: Oh, right! So because they couldn’t leave the Barrier . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . they couldn’t go out and look at it. They could just watch it with instruments.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay.

Corey: So the moment that it was going to strike the Barrier region, they had all of their instruments pointed in that direction.

And to their shock, this derelict craft came through the Barrier.

David: Really?

Corey: Well, yeah, but what they didn’t know . . . So the Barrier had already been dissolved or taken down.

David: Right, which you had said in the previous update.

Corey: Right.

David: Yeah.

Corey: But an announcement didn’t go out. No one knew.

David: Right.

Corey: So a lot of the beings weren’t coming here or leaving because they thought the Barrier was still erected.

David: But you had mentioned that this Galactic Federation was now enforcing it.

Corey: Right.

David: So would that end up being basically the same thing in terms of how it works?

Corey: Basically, in how it works, except with a military blockade, they’re probably going to stop you with extreme prejudice.

David: Right. Okay. So once they found out that the Outer Barrier wasn’t working, that this craft glided through it, what did they do next?

Corey: Well, Sigmund, as he was standing up giving the presentation, he sort of puffed up, and he said, “I led an expedition to this craft to see who owned it; where it came from.”

David: Hm.

Corey: And as he said that, telemetry started popping up on the screen. It was obviously a video, and then all of these numbers and coordinates started popping up real fast, and then they went away.

And then I saw a long narrow point of light, like in black space something reflecting light, and it was slowly tumbling, very slowly tumbling.

And I started hearing beeping and communications, sort of like a NASA transmission, and they were talking about matching the spin of the craft.

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7 Approaching The Craft

And then they were calling out how close they were, you know, and touch down or land with the object, and they did, “Three, two, one, mark”.

8 SSP Alliance Craft Approaching Craft

You know, it was just like a NASA transmission.

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10 SSP Craft In Front Of The Craft

The shuttle that was approaching this craft, out of it, I guess the side of the craft or the bottom, it shot out a drone.

And this drone was taking a video of the shuttle craft getting closer and closer.

It was a long cigar-shaped stone craft. It was made of stone.

David: Okay.

Corey: About a third of the way down was what looked like a metallic, very crystalline metallic material, that was obviously where the bridge had been of this craft.

11 SSP Craft Over The Stone Craft

And this stone craft looked like it had gone through just millions of years of collisions of other space objects. It was really beat up.

12 Stone Craft SSP Craft Approaching

On the outside, there was . . . looked like dirty ice going from the point of the dome, . . . And the dome had all these holes in it. It was all cracked and smashed up,

13 Dome Of The Stone Craft

But out of it, going along the side of the craft and around, was ice. It looked greenish-brown, like lake water, with here and there pink or orange little smears in it.

I obviously didn’t know what THAT was at this point.

Once they landed and secured their landing with this craft, they began to exit in spacesuits.

David: How did they get in?

Corey: Well, they got in through one of the holes.

David: In that bubble that you mentioned?

14 Men In Spacesuits Entering The Stone Craft

Corey: Yeah, in that bubble. They had lights on their helmets and on different parts of their suits, and at the end of each of their wrists, there was a light shooting out.

David: Was there any gravity that allowed them to walk, or how were they able to maneuver into the craft?

Corey: There was no gravity. They pulled their selves through just like you see astronauts on the Space Station, you know?

David: Okay.

15 Close Up Of Astronaut

Corey: They were wearing, like, GoPro-type cameras, and it cut to a video feed of, at that time, one of the cameras on one of the suits.

And as they went in, the lights that they had were very bright. You could see fairly well in their general vicinity.

It was obvious that there was no gravity in the craft either, and in the bottom of the craft where the floor would be, there was a thick ice coating that was just like what was on the outside of the craft.

It looked like frothy lake water with organic material in it.

David: Hm.

Corey: Immediately, there was a guy picking at the top of it with like a little pick ax looking thing, and then he took a core under that. It was only like that deep. [Corey shows about 4” or 100mm]

They’re putting them in these plastic vials and bags, taking samples, taking photos and video.

David: Was there any consensus as to what that might actually be?

Corey: Sigmund said that later on, after they tested everything, that it WAS full of organics, and that it was most likely remains of the crew . . .

David: Really?

Corey: . . . of the original crew.

So in the video, I see all of these different panels that were pulled off of walls that were just floating around, and there were areas that obviously technology used to be, but it had been picked bone dry.

They said it was obvious that over millions of years that the craft had been boarded many times by different extraterrestrials, and that they had picked it clean.

So they were documenting where all this technology had been removed.

There were different signs around from different ETs that had been there.

And one the video of one of the astronauts, you then hear over the radio, “I found something. You guys need to come and see this.”

And then, all of a sudden, you see the astronaut is traveling through different floors, going through different floors on the craft, on this ancient craft, and you’d see him pulling through holes and looking for openings to go into the direction, because the person called out, “I’m on this deck aft starboard side”, you know. And they were making their way there.

And when they got to the area where . . . You could see light coming in from a doorway where a panel was jammed sideways in the door, and you couldn’t see that there was a doorway there normally, but this astronaut found it, and he was inside.

And then the man with the camera goes inside, and there is kind of a room with a bunch of . . . looked like drawers, like a morgue. And it went up pretty high.

The room was fairly large, and the drawers were curved like that. [Corey spreads his hands out in front or him and spaced out in almost a half-circle shape.]

David: Did this frothy ice exist on all of the surfaces or just the floor?

Corey: It was just on the floor, which, as I told you, there was no gravity. So they stated that, at the time . . . It had been close to a star.

They said that this craft was around a star not too far away – they named the star – and that it was stuck in an orbit around this star for millions and millions of years.

The temporal data that they were able to use to date this object was one billion plus years old.

David: Wow! And just so that we’re clear, this is not carbon 14 dating. This is some other technology that we don’t usually have.

Corey: Right. Yeah, it’s a completely different technology.

David: Okay.

Corey: But they start pulling open drawers, and some of them are empty, and then some of them were not.

David: Hm.

Corey: They opened a drawer, and on it was laying a being that looked like a pterodactyl.

16 Pterodactyl Type Being

It was very light pale blue, and it looked like it was probably darker blue before pre-mortem, before it died, and it just faded.

And in another drawer that they opened was this pinkish-orange looking being.

17 Pinkish Orange Aquatic Being

The torso was very thin, and it looked pliable, and then it went off into two legs that looked like basically tentacles.

David: Like from an octopus?

Corey: Like from an octopus.

David: Hm.

Corey: And also, it had water jets on it. It was obviously an aquatic being.

At first when I saw it, I thought it was some sort of mammalian.

David: Are these bodies just sitting on a gurney, or are they inside a tube or something?

Corey: No. They are laying on a table. They’re like stuck to the table. They didn’t start floating up. They were stuck to it.

And the long aquatic being had, interestingly enough, three toes and three fingers that had suction cups on them.

David: Which is very much like the Golden Triangle being.

Corey: Right.

David: Yeah.

Corey: They pulled in bags. They were going to start bagging the bodies.

And when they started pulling at the bodies, they just started disintegrating. They were like freeze-dried from being in space for so long.

They started, you know, putting the pieces in the bags. The whole room filled up with a dust and particles of the body.

One of the buys was using some piece of a panel – it’s like a spatula – to scrape to get the body, because it was just bonded to the table.

David: I mean, that seems a little odd, because if you look at the protocol now for if we find a new tomb in Egypt or something, everybody has to be so careful not to damage anything.

If this is such a valuable object, why would they be so careless in the way that they’re trying to get these samples?

Corey: Well, this is the SSP Alliance. This was a quick operation where they had to get in, gather intel, and then leave.

David: Ah. So it’s not like with . . . Probably with all the artifacts that they’ve found over the years, they don’t have time to treat this with a great deal of staff and a great deal of attention.

Corey: Yeah. They really didn’t have time to set up like an archaeological dig site properly.

If it would have been a larger space program, one of the ones that’s in control of that region of space, they would have set up a . . . and they may have already taken possession of the craft and then set up a forensics team.

David: So these bodies just crumble apart, and they’re putting them into bags?

Corey: Yes. And at this point, we end up cutting to a different camera of another team, because someone else was calling out that they found something.

And they went to this one particular floor that was larger than the others, and everywhere on all the walls were two different types of writing.

Now, if you hadn’t guessed by now, this technology is Ancient Builder Race technology.

David: Wow!

Corey: So the crew was very excited.

David: So could you please review for us what is the Ancient Builder Race technology throughout our local star system, and why is a written inscription so important?

Corey: Well, in our local star cluster of 52 stars or so, this one ancient race left technology and artifacts everywhere, but nowhere were they able to find any type of writing or glyphs.

Other ETs had gone in years later, cleaned off any writing and glyphs, and basically claimed that, “This is OUR technology. WE built this technology.”

David: And you had said that a lot of these artifacts were pyramids, obelisks, that kind of stuff?

Corey: Yeah. Yeah, definitely a number of them are different types of structures like that.

David: Interesting. So, wow, finding writing, whoever tried to sanitize all this, that opens up a huge new avenue of archaeological exploration.

Corey: Well, not only that. Apparently, one of the languages, they were able to translate fairly quickly.

David: Hm.

Corey: And I saw a video of . . . the walls, the ceilings, the floors. There was writing everywhere – two different types.

One type that they had not fully figured out, they said, was a type of a language and a hyperdimensional mathematics mixed together. There was some wispy stylized type of glyphs.

But the others were dots, long dashes, short dashes. It was kind of like Morse code, but it was very complex. They learned the order to read it in, and they said it was very similar to a glyph type of root language that they found on several planets in our local 52 star cluster.

David: Wow!

Corey: It was close enough to where they could decipher. The other language they were unable to decipher.

David: Are there any traces of that root language on Earth?

Corey: They said that they had found elements of that writing in different forms.

David: So did you ask at some point whether this was Ancient Builder Race, or if they had determined that?

Corey: Well, actually I didn’t have to ask. Sigmund stated, “You know, this was Ancient Builder Race technology, and now we finally have some of their writing.”

They were more excited about that than the prospect of finding any type of genetic or technical materials.

David: Wow! If this writing appears in all these different ancient star systems, then would that suggest that this group was visiting them and was seeding written language and mathematics and civilization on these different inhabited worlds?

Corey: Well, at one time, I guess you could call it an empire, all of those stars were part of a giant empire, or group, and these were the remnants of that empire that disappeared.

Now, what’s interesting is that when they were looking around at these different floors and gathering information, later on they determined that a couple of the floors had been pressurized with water not air.

So the craft was a joint craft between an aquatic species and a non-aquatic species.

David: Wow!

Corey: And apparently, whatever occurred to this vessel, caused it to depressurize, a catastrophic depressurization, and that basically destroyed the beings that were on the inside.

It homogenized them and made them a part of this goo, this muck, that froze to the ship.

David: So I believe it was around December 10th or 11th of 2017 that the mainstream media announced this cigar-shaped asteroid that NASA has just discovered that they called “Oumuamua”.

And it sounds a lot like what you’re describing.

18 NASA Article On Oumuamua 1

19 NASA Article On Oumuamua 2

Is that the same object?

Corey: It is.

David: Okay. So that’s really interesting, because it happens just a few days before the sanctioned Tom DeLonge disclosure took place.

20 Tom DeLonge Disclosure Article

Corey: And right after the Blue Avians faded out of our density.

David: Ah! Right. So do you think there are plans for this craft to be revealed to us at some point in terms of them showing this footage that you saw, or going there again?

21 European Southern Observatory ESO

Corey: Maybe. Maybe. You know, I don’t know. That’s . . . I don’t think they were planning on sharing THAT much information for a while. I think it was more of a great opportunity to gather intel more than anything.

David: The NASA report said that it passed out of our Solar System, and that it had a red metallic kind of color to it.

22 NASA Oumuamua Leaves Solar System

So they really do seem to be trying to help Disclosure along by making this announcement.

What are your feelings about the implications of this craft for humanity?

Corey: Well, depending on what is deciphered language-wise inside that craft, we’re going to have a lot more information about this Ancient Builder Race.

Even some of the most ancient ETs that we deal with out there, they’re just as much in the dark as we are.

David: Right. So what happens after you go through this briefing about the craft and you see the video?

Corey: The video ends. He asks if we have questions. We ask some questions, and then get a little bit further information that has to remain classified, unfortunately.

And then it was announced, “Are you guys ready for your tour of the LOC?”

We ended the meeting, and Gonzales and I walked outside.

The female Air Force officer was out there, and Sigmund came, and a few of the other SSP Alliance representatives came with us.

On the floor, there was this one elevator that you saw, and the rest were just a bunch of closed doors.

We went to that elevator, which was a different elevator than the one we came down on.

Then we got on the elevator, and we started heading downward.

David: So what happened when you ended this elevator ride? Where do you end up next?

Corey: We exit into a room that you walk through, and then you go down some stairs and out to an open area.

23 Lava Tube Cavern Of LOC

And when we were in this little room that we first walked out of, there was glass, and I could see the lava tube cavern under the LOC.

We get in a shuttle type of craft. We take off, and we begin flying through the tube, this giant lava tube.

As we were flying, below, I saw what looked like old giant tractors that were broken and were set to the side, like it was a piece of equipment that broke.

24 Lava Tube And Broken Tractor

25 Broken Tractor

It was too big to move, so they just pushed it aside and went on with their business.

26 Overhead View Of Broken Tractor

It was VERY old, and it had tracks on it like a tractor. And they had big almost like blades coming out.

27 Overhead View Of Tractor With Extensions

Like you had the tractor, the tracks, and out of the tracks came these long almost extensions that almost looked like toothpicks, but fat. And that helped to give them more grip as they were going.

And there were track marks behind it. You’d see track marks with a line, track marks with a line, and they were staggered.

28 Tractor Marks Behind Tractor

And there were a few different types of tractors down there that looked like they were obviously old and broken.

And then we see human-made structures on the bottom of the cavern.

There’s another large hole, and there were bases that were like cylinders, but like half-cylinders, split radiating out from this hole.

29 Half Cylinder Bases Around Hole

30 Long View Of Lava Tube With Tractor Half Cylinder Bases And Hole

We went down, docked, and they have us go into LOC Bravo.

LOC Bravo is a much smaller facility. Walking around, we actually saw people with NASA emblems on one-piece suits and even a blazer one guy was wearing, which was interesting. I’d never seen anything NASA related to that point.

David: Yeah.

Corey: A small group of people started walking towards us very excitedly, and they were PhD types, scientists.

They started telling us, “We’re going to go on a five-hour excursion. We need you to be in these environmental suits. We’re going to train you real quick on using the environmental suits, on the security backup procedures, and once we get all suited up, we will head down.”

So we all got suited up in these environmental suits. They weren’t pressurized. They were just environmental suits.

And then we re-embarked on to the shuttle craft, and it flew us down into the hole.

And when we flew down into the hole, I saw many, many more ancient machines that were obviously broken and shattered.

When the scientist . . . he began to talk to us as we were heading into this tour.

He said the Moon itself is . . . It has been struck many, many times, obviously, by asteroids and other things.

And he showed a crater on a device, a crater that was struck by a meteor, and underneath, it fractured the whole area. It hit, and then it bounced off, and then it fractured an area and then pulls it open.

David: Ah!

Corey: So it’s like, you know, there’s density here, a meteor hits, and the Moon pushes back. So it bounces back, and it pushes in the Moon crust material. Then it expands back out.

And all the energy is transferred to the rock, so it melts.

After it spreads apart and melts, it begins to form lava channels, because of something to do with the way the Moon is spinning. I didn’t understand it all.

And it’s created these huge lava-type caverns, but also these huge rift areas to where the smashing occurred, and then it pulled back away, these huge kind of like ripped areas where the rock had been pulled apart.

David: Right.

Corey: And those had been exploited long ago by several different races. Now, sadly, I can’t get into very many details about this five-hour tour yet, but I’m told I will be able to give all the information very soon. But I can tell you, it was an amazing tour.

David: Corey, could you tell us anything at all specific about what you saw? You mentioned machines that look shattered. Were they crystalline machines?

Corey: Yeah, and most of everything that we were shown was destroyed. Some sort of huge concussion wave had occurred thousands of years ago that destroyed just about everything in the Moon.

I did see some bodies, ancient bodies, and I did see a bunch of things on the ground like these I-beams that were shattered and broken that looked like they were extremely strong, but were made out of that same crystalline-type metallic material.

David: Oh, like what these pyramids and domes and stuff are made from?

Corey: Right.

David: Wow! So you think these machines were actually making the beams out of the lunar material?

Corey: They were obviously ground works devices. They were helping connect a lot of these caverns and rift systems, and they were building them out.

There were signs of concrete that they were using as well that they were making out of the regolith.

Now, at one point, when we’re standing and looking at all of this, I look over at Gonzales, and I said, “I’ve never seen anything like this. Have you?”

And he was quiet. He was just looking.

And then Sigmund said, “Actually, you’ve been here before.”

And I looked at Sigmund, and I said, “What do you mean?”

Then it was explained to me that during one of my previous 20-and-Backs, one that I don’t have full recall of, I was a part of an expeditionary team. I’d apparently been all through that complex prior.

David: Well, it does seem interesting to think about as we explored the new world, we found the Mesoamerican pyramids. The feeling of awe of people who saw that for the first time when it had never before been seen by Europeans seems similar to what you’re describing here.

And then after a while, everybody takes it for granted. “Oh, yeah, the pyramids.”

Do you think that will eventually happen with this, too?

Corey: Well, it seemed it had already occurred with the eggheads that were there working on it, you know?

David: Right.

Corey: It’s amazing what can become normal.

David: Did you hear about this ever potentially becoming known to humanity as a whole?

Corey: As a matter of fact, one of the PhD types was standing there, and so was Sigmund, and they basically pronounced that one day we will be giving this same tour to a major television network.

David: Wow! Did they have any sense of how soon that would be?

Corey: No.

David: Well, you had mentioned in a previous update that this time period of 2023 to 2024 appears to be one in which a lot more of the Full Disclosure scenario will happen.

So do you think it’s possible that this would be one of the things we would see during that window?

Corey: It’s possible, but I think that is something that . . . You know, like I said, the Powers-That-Be were planning on revealing an ancient civilization discovered in Antarctica and at the bottom of the ocean, and then claim that they’re part of this bloodline of this ancient culture.

Then they were going to say, “Oh, by the way, we have a Secret Space Program, and we’ve traveled to all these different planets and the Moon, and we found these same artifacts there.”

So it could be a part of that revelation.

David: Right.

Corey: These were university-egghead types that were working at the LOC.

David: So what happens at this point? How does this story progress from here? You’re told there’s a lot of things you can’t say. You can’t give us very many descriptions of what you saw.

I guess you can’t tell us what the bodies looked like.

Corey: Mm-mm.

David: Okay. Could you tell us if they were giants or regular size, or is even that not allowed?

Corey: All I can say is that they were larger than us.

David: Ah. Okay. That makes sense.

So how does this . . . What happens to you next?

Corey: Well, we’re brought back to the LOC Bravo. Like I said, we also visited LOC Charlie. I can’t talk about any of that.

We came back . . .

David: But you had implied that these LOCs were built around architectural sites.

Corey: Right.

David: Okay.

Corey: It ended with us coming back, taking off the environmental suits. We were just soaking wet with sweat.

We were allowed to take showers, and then put on the clothes that we wore when we arrived.

Then, you know, we were again . . . The secrecy thing was talked about. It always is.

They had us both, Gonzales and I both, sign a non-disclosure.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. We had a small debriefing, and then we were, basically, brought back up to LOC Alpha, I guess, we can call it now.

And I was brought back up to the same catwalk area where the dart had landed, and I went home.

David: So what do you think will happen to us as a society if we get to that point where that live television broadcast occurs? How will that be for us?

Corey: I think at that point, we will already have had quite a bit of disclosure, but this is going to expand our consciousness in a major way as a society.

We’re going to go from thinking we’re these little knuckle draggers on this one little planet to realizing that we’re a part of a living, breathing cosmos, and that we have cosmic cousins all around us that, once we get our stuff together as a society, that we’re going to be able to interact with and trade with and learn from.

David: Yeah.

Corey: So it’s going to be a very exciting time.

David: Well, this is a very exciting future that we have in store for us, and I really do hope that we get to see this.

And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode.

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