Cosmic Disclosure: ET Detention and Interrogation

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. We’re here with Emery Smith and Corey Goode.

And in this episode, we’re going to be talking about extraterrestrial detention facilities.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Oh, thanks. Excited to be here.

David: And, Corey, thanks for being here.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: We have talked in the past about this Intercept and Interrogate Program that you were involved in, Corey.

So, in case someone isn’t aware of what that is, could you please summarize that for us briefly now?

Corey: Yeah. It’s a program that is, in part, similar to “Men in Black”.

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What this Intercept and Interrogation Program does is that if an intruder flies into our system, doesn’t give a friend or foe signal, and is intercepted, they are taken from their ship.

Or what happens in most cases is that ETs have made it to the Earth and are here secretly blending in as one of us.

And this group will go in and retrieve the people that are here – we call the ETs “people” – the people that are here without permission, bring them up to a certain station, and their interrogations would begin to find out what was going on.

This group also operated as a police force for the non-terrestrial groups that were here with permission.

They helped keep them apart. And when they had issues, they acted like police.

David: Now, the program you were in, Corey, is called Solar Warden. A warden would be like somebody working in a prison or jail. Is there any relationship with that name?

Corey: Yes. The mandate of Solar Warden was to police our Solar System. That was the main mandate.

They had also a program to establish bases on the closest stars in our local star cluster. But, yeah . . . that’s . . . That was their mandate.

David: Emery, you claim to have autopsied over 3,000 different biological specimens.

Emery: Correct – specimens.

David: Did you see any that looked enough like humans that they could be here on Earth in that program?

Emery: They look just like us. They smell like us. They walk like us. They’re just . . . Their IQ is higher. They’re a lot more conscious than we are.

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And they can easily fit into any place on the planet, regardless of language or religion or, you know, the finances of that country, we’ll say.

So they don’t have to have a lot of money to survive here. They can live like a poor person, or they could live like a rich person, or just a regular person.

David: You’ve been involved in a variety of different ops programs. The one that you and I talked about the most over the last 10 years was these autopsies.

Emery: Yes.

David: Did you get into other programs later on where you were aware that certain of these human ETs were here on Earth?

Emery: Yes. And what had happened was some of the extraterrestrials that we were working on in the lab and doing dissections and whatnot, some of these full-bodied humans, extraterrestrials, would come in, and they would be very badly beaten, where subdermal hematomas from being hit in the back of their head, looks like they were tortured, sometimes many broken bones.

And we don’t . . . I didn’t find out till later on that these beings were actually coming from a prison or a withholding cell [holding cell] of some sort and were being interrogated.

And this is probably what, you know . . .

Corey: Yeah, it sounds . . .

Emery: Because it was after that they would probably come and send them . . . because they’re just a corpse at that time.

So I’m just assuming, after hearing your testimony, that this was what we were receiving, because usually, they’re in pretty good shape unless they were, you know, shot down or something.

And these were obviously beaten to death.

Corey: Yeah, we can mention this a little bit later, but, you know, I also received . . . When I was on the research vessel, I received specimens that we passed on. I can talk about how we did that, if it relates.

Emery: Right.

Corey: A lot of times, the individuals that were being interrogated just died of stress and trauma from the process. It was very disturbing. But they were tagged and sent for study afterwards.

Emery: Right. We had a few come in that they actually starved to death.

So I’m not sure what happened, but they were definitely . . . they starved to death.

Corey: Yeah, well, there’s prisons that they have for them, some of them, where they bring them, like a conventional prison.

That’s where they need to further interrogate them for a while, get more information, or have them to trade off or to pass off.

Emery: Right.

Corey: Fairly recently, I was given an extensive, I guess, viewing and tour of the Lunar Operation Command. And it connected to two other commands.

The Lunar Operation Command they call LOC Alpha, and below ground, in these lava tubes, are two more, called LOC Bravo and Charlie.

And LOC Charlie has a research facility that’s cryogenics. And one of the floors of that is a storage facility for some of these beings that they put into stasis.

Emery: Right. There’s a huge one of those where I worked – I’ll say a large cryo morgue – where these are kept, you know, in the hundreds, before they go into the lab.

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There’s always enough bodies and there’s always enough specimens. It’s like an unlimited amount. It’s like they can’t keep up with it.

There’s just so many going on, you know, hundreds of these rooms that I’ve worked in there that people are working on.

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One of the things that happened one time, we did get a bunch of bodies. And they were completely ripped apart and burned. And they stopped doing this.

They were using the military with giant C-130s and Hercules to transport bodies to different labs around the world. And one crashed.

And then they stopped doing it, because civilians arrived on the scene and saw all these different creatures and different . . .

Corey: Do you recall when and where?

Emery: That was in 1994. Yeah.

Corey: Hm.

Emery: And this year . . .

David: And where was it?

Emery: I don’t know where it was. I have no idea. I just know the whole background story because we were actually briefed on it, and because the tissue changes when it burns.

Corey: Uh-huh.

Emery: So you have to be really careful not to take that tissue.

David: Do you know what they did with the witnesses once those people saw this? Were they terminated? Or . . .

Emery: Yeah, I heard the witnesses were threatened. And I know there was one witness that was terminated on site.

David: Because they just couldn’t handle it? They were going to talk? Or . . .

Emery: I think . . .

Corey: Or they saw one thing they weren’t supposed to.

Emery: Yeah, I think it was more of that. And they were snooping around and actually taking things from the site.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: I mean, from the crash site. Yeah.

David: So what do they use instead of a C-130 now?

Emery: Oh, everything’s done underground. Everything is through the maglev tube system or other systems that they have for transport down there.

Corey: Hm.

David: Could you describe what this cryo storage facility would look like, this cryo morgue?

Emery: Oh, yeah, sure. Ah, I’ve seen it many times.

It’s basically . . . I’m trying to think of a movie, maybe, that could relate to that.

Well, think of that “Matrix” scene, you know, all those bodies sitting in there, but these are all up and down, okay? And most of them are up and down, but some of them are at like a 45°.

And if you walk into this area, it’s about five stories high, okay? It’s below freezing in there.

And each one of these containers are a different size. They’re not always all the same size because of the different specimens.

We have vacuum-sealed containers that are just this big [Emery separates his hands about 12”] for very small pieces of tissue.

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The smallest one is about 12” x 6” long. It has a keypad on it, and it’s made out of glass and a special metal. And it’s vacuumed. So it has its own vacuum-suction pressure system.

And it also has a gas system, because some of these samples have to be stored in different types of gases to keep the tissue, not always just ice and . . .

Corey: I hate to interrupt, . . .

Emery: Sure.

Corey: . . . but on the research vessel, when they would bring in specimens, they would rebag them. And they would arrive in like . . . especially the smaller samples . . .

Emery: Uh-huh.

Corey: . . . would arrive in a small kind of metal box that had what looked like glass across the top.

Emery: Yeah.

Corey: And the specimens looked almost freeze dried, . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . but they weren’t. They were in stasis. This is how the ETs shipped it to us.

Emery: Uh-huh.

Corey: They then . . . The technicians then took it in, turned off the device in a certain way, unsealed it.

Emery: Yes!

Corey: It was vacuumed, and they removed it. And then they put them into another vacuum-packed metal box that was then put into a bag, like a hazardous materials-type bag, . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . that was sealed at the top.

Emery: Yeah, no, that’s very accurate. I’ve seen the square metal cases before.

Corey: When you looked at the specimen, it looked like it was freeze dried.

David: Right.

Corey: But when they would turn it off, it would go back . . .

Emery: Yep.

Corey: . . . to looking wet.

Emery: That’s right. Yeah.

David: Hm. So we’ve been talking about your Intercept Interrogate Program, and this is obviously a whole world that none of us have been privy to.

What kinds of prisons do they have if these beings interlope and get into our Solar System? How do they deal with that?

Corey: What happens in an interrogation? If they’re cooperative, if they say, “I’m here. I’ve got a small support team that’s cloaked outside of Jupiter,” or, you know, just for example, “please contact them, verify . . .”

And in many cases, we would hand them back over to their support group, [and] say, you know, give them a slap on the hand and say, “This is the process that you come in legally,” I guess you would say.

David: Hm.

Corey: Now, the ones that they wanted to further question, they would keep in prisons, out of stasis, you know, just like a normal prison.

And some of these prisons were ships. Some of these prisons were actually some of the asteroids that we had mined.

Emery: Uh huh.

Corey: And then we ended up going in and creating partial cryo prisons, and . . . but mostly, just regular-type prisons.

So there’s a number of ways they keep these beings locked down.

David: So what percentage of these violations would lead to sort of a friendly warning as opposed to actual incarceration?

Corey: Whew! That’s . . . You know, that’s really hard to say. I really didn’t find out what happened to them after a certain point. You know, that information was compartmentalized.

But the discussions that we had when we were off duty was that, you know, this is what happened to them.

So, I really don’t have any numbers on what percentages . . . who was ferreted where.

David: Hm. Emery, when you were in these programs, did you ever meet what appeared to be a biological extraterrestrial?

Emery: Yes.

David: Could you describe whether . . . like, did you ever get to talk to them? Did you ever get to find out if they were here on an approved basis, what they were doing here, that kind of thing?

Emery: Yeah, they were working in conjunction with . . . Some extraterrestrials actually volunteered . . . either they were captured, then volunteered to work here and help us, or some were actually . . . came here on their own will and had some sort of authorization to be in these labs to work with the physicians on many different biological aspects of tissue regeneration and hybridization and cloning.

Corey: Yeah, that’s right. They did force a lot of them into scientific positions.

Emery: Yeah, it was either die, or you can work here.

Corey: Yeah.

David: Hm.

Emery: And they do threat them really well, as far as I heard. I’ve heard many stories.

Even on my team, I know one of the physicians was an extraterrestrial human and spoke and smelled just like us. It was not, like, any different.

Corey: After they eat our foods for a while.

Emery: Right.

Corey: If they don’t eat our food, they smell completely different.

Emery: Correct.

David: Hm.

Emery: Right. And we also had other types of extraterrestrials that were there, that later on, through my experience, I saw in meetings and stuff. But they were not part of my project.

Corey: When you interacted with them, were there any type of weird social . . . weird things?

Emery: Yes.

Corey: Can you describe some of them?

Emery: Yeah, you know, they’re very careful what they say, because a lot of them are still, like, learning our little idiosyncrasies, I’ll say . . .

Corey: Yeah, the English especially.

Emery: It just . . . It doesn’t come out always perfect. And a lot of . . .You can see they’re really trying to pronunciate [sic] the words, kind of like when people come over from other countries to the US and they only know maybe 60%, 70% of the language.

And, you know, they say it, but it has, like, maybe a harsh accent or something like that.

And a lot of them, I think, actually, . . . They have emotions like we do, too. And they laugh, and they can be sad, and you can hurt their feelings, because they really, over time, the majority of them – not all of them; some go rogue and try to escape – but the majority of them, actually, I think, after being with us, I think they feel sorry for us. And they want to help. And they want to stay.

I really think they’re that . . . They’re so compassionate. They’re like us times 10 in compassion.

And, you know, I’ve seen so much selflessness from a lot of these beings, especially when things get a little . . . sometimes things go wrong in the labs and stuff. And they . . . You know, they’re there. They’re not being shady, is what I’m saying. They actually care. Yeah, it was really interesting.

David: Did you see a sense of humor? Would they . . .

Emery: ABSOLUTELY! Humor is a big thing, a big them with them. And . . .

Corey: They love our music, and . . .

Emery: Yeah. They love the lights. They love our music. Anything that has to do with the senses is just, . . . they really indulge in that.

David: Hm.

Corey: Some of them like gambling because of that adrenal . . .

Emery: Right. So they also pick up on our bad habits, as well, such as food, and like you said, gambling, and these exciting things that we can get tied up into.

So they’re not invincible, because they fall under our dimension as well.

So I mean, they’re here just like we are, but they’re just very conscious and very . . . Their IQs are through the roof.

And if you get one that speaks really well, you know, you won’t probably know it – that they’re an ET. Ha, ha, right?

Corey: Right.

David: Somebody’s going to want me to ask this, so I’ll do it now. Do either of you think that there are people in very visible public positions that are actually extraterrestrial humans?

Corey: I was told back when I was in this program that they are very limited in how they can participate with society.

They can . . . They have . . . Everything has to be pre-approved. They can work in our companies and that kind of thing, but they can’t hold places of power.

I mean, that’s for the ones that are coming here on whatever internship it is.

Emery: Absolutely. They’re not allowed to have any influential positions. I would know.

David: Other than business . . .

Emery: I’m telling you guys, I would know right now, for sure, if someone of great power was an extraterrestrial. And they’re not doing that to us.

And maybe in the future they will if they have to step in and save the planet and save us. But right now, there is nothing like that going on. And the corruption shows that around the world.

And they do. They have specific rules, like Corey said, that they cannot do certain things here.

David: We have 7 billion people on Earth that are Earth-born human. And Corey, you’ve described a colonization of our Solar System that appears to be much more vast than just Earth’s population.

Could you speculate as to how many people are actually living in our Solar System, if we use the expanded term “people”?

Corey: It’s millions.

David: Well, there’s billions just on Earth, but you think there’s millions of other people living in our Solar System?

Corey: Well, there’s millions of our own people living throughout the Solar System.

David: Right.

Corey: When it comes to non-terrestrials that live . . . , it’s a large number. Yeah.

David: Is it . . . Is there some reason why Earth humanity gets to be in charge of who comes and goes out of our Solar System, as opposed to other groups that are already colonizing here as well?

Corey: Well, for a while, that’s how it happened. These different genetic farmer groups were controlling who was coming in and out.

David: Oh!

Corey: Once we developed the interstellar travel abilities and the military in space that we have, we began to police our own Solar System.

David: Hm. And the other groups allowed us to do that? Or . . .

Corey: Yeah. A lot of them didn’t have a choice because we had . . . We now had their technology, or greater, that we were receiving in these trades.

We were trading, you know, people and genetic material off in this galactic slave trade. And it’s a huge . . . There’s a lot of commerce going on.

So, I mean, for a while, we had issues when we were developing these commerce pathways throughout the local 52 star clusters, because there were already well-established trade routes.

And we were interfering with that. We had a big learning process.

Now it’s to a point where . . . It used to be: when we had to send a whole fleet to bring, you know, beings and bullets to a certain outpost.

Now, they use the types of ships I was in – the big cigar-shaped. They are completely automated.

And they fly from star system to star system. And they kick off, you know, these containers and leave them floating, and then they shoot to the next star system to do the next delivery.

And they have no worry that a different group’s going to come along and take their belongings.

It’s now all . . . You know, everything’s well established now.

David: Corey, you had mentioned that there is some new information you have about aquatic beings in the Pacific. Could you explain that to us now?

Corey: Yeah, there’s some new information I have, but this information I had back when I was in the interrogation program.

The Navy had accidentally discovered an ET base under the Pacific Ocean that they were unaware of and that was not approved.

The other non-terrestrial groups they communicated with said, “No, this is not approved.”

So they then . . . The Navy intelligence then organized a “training operation” above this base, to where they were dropping depth charges and other deep penetrating weapons into the ocean and pretty much destroyed this base.

Now, . . . And the people . . . As they were dropping these ordinance into the ocean, ships were flying out. They were seeing all this activity. There were ships leaving, like, evacuating.

So weeks later, the program sent in some of their electromagnetic subs to go in and recon this base.

And when they did, there were dozens of these beings that were still alive. And they ended up bringing them up for interrogation.

And, yeah, they were . . . they were aquatics.

Emery: Do you know what they looked like?

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: What did they look like?

Corey: Well, these were actually pretty small. They had them in this one tall, vertical tank together. And then they were kind of like using the fish hooks that they do on fishing trips, [they] were reaching in, snagging them out very roughly, pulling them out, and bringing them and putting them in this other tank that had cabling hooked up to it and a metal band around, just stuck to the glass – it looked like with silicone or something.

And these beings . . . They had a big kind of lobe in the front of their head that was obviously how they communicated. By the size of their jaws and all that, they could tell that they obviously did not communicate vocally like we do.

Emery: Right.

Corey: They communicated through . . .

Emery: Echolocation.

Corey: Yeah, very similar to, like, dolphins.

So they figured out a way to communicate with them. We were not communicating with them.

Aquatics are hard to communicate [with]. Their base of reference is completely different than ours.

But they were stressing these beings out, applying, . . . changing the temperature of the water, putting chemicals in the water – doing all types of things to stress out these beings when they were questioning them.

David: Emery, how often did you see aquatic-type beings when you were working in the program with the autopsies?

Emery: I’ve seen a couple hundred aquatic beings, . . .

David: Hm.

Emery: . . . and meaning . . . or samples that were aquatic or aquatic beings.

And he’s right. It’s just a completely different type of a body and a different type of cellular biology. And, you know, it’s very different, just as we are different than a dolphin or a fish.

David: Did they have more cartilage than bone, in the way that their skeleton was?

Emery: Yeah, that’s a great question. They did. A lot of them were not able to walk on land. Some were able to.

Some had a bony structure. And a lot of them had these very cartilaginous type of bodies, where they didn’t have, you know, . . . What gave them shape was actually this matrix web of cartilage intertwined with, like, amazing muscle mass and amazing muscle definition.

David: Hm.

Emery: One of the ones that I actually examined had the body of a human. It had these fins that ran down the sides of the outside of the body, and kind of a little bit of webbed hands and feet, and stood about 6′ tall.

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Now, I’ve seen very small ones, like he talks about.

And size does not matter in the universe . . .

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: . . . I’ll tell you that much.

Corey: We’ve had ships that crashed that were this big. [Corey separates his hands about 12”.)

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Emery: Right.

Corey: And they were occupied.

Emery: Yes. So beings can be very, very small. We would have to use these giant neurological microscopes sometimes to operate on some of these and take samples, because you know, they were only, like, 3” tall.

David: Neurological microscope meaning that you had to interface with it with your mind?

Emery: No, alls it . . . No, I’m sorry. Neurological . . . just a standard microscope they use in neurosurgery . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . for brain surgery and stuff, so a magnification, you know.

David: Right.

Emery: It comes with it’s own chair and stuff, and you just sit there and make these very small movements. And it is a very dynamic thing. But . . .

David: The Atacama humanoid you dissected in “Sirius” [2013, available on Gaia] is only about 6” tall.

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Emery: 13 cm, right.

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David: So how was that comparing with some of the smallest ones that you saw?

Emery: Well, the smallest one I’ve every operated on was about 3”.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. Full body. Same thing – the head was three times . . .

David: And it was an adult?

Emery: The head was, yeah, three times larger. You know, the heads are always, for some reason . . . they’re always a little bit larger than ours.

And it’s probably for the brain or other things they have that’s special. Like, you know, his aquatics had this giant thing on the front for echolocation and communication.

And we see a lot of that. We see a lot of these giant bumps and whatnot. It’s made of calcium. And they’re in really odd shapes.

And it’s very similar to that of whales and dolphins, like you said, Corey.

David: Corey, we have these various beings coming into our Solar System, and some of them are approved, some of them are not.

You haven’t really talked that much about the Intercept Interrogate Program before. So could you explain for us some of the beings that you saw in that program? Give us an example.

Corey: Most of them were human. They just looked human, and just various types of humans.

About 10%, maybe 15%, were the types that you hear described, you know, as “aliens” – very strange-looking – evolved in a completely different environment.

So you know, we had insectoids. We had different types of reptilian beings, which, you know, we immediately turned over to the Draco.

The insectoids . . . There was a certain type of insectoid, a certain group, that was always turned over.

But, you know, I described the one that had a weird seahorse-looking head and an insectoid segmented body. There were a number of different amphibians.

Now, I’ve described before the cat being that I saw, and that was actually later on when I was in . . . when I was serving on the research vessel.

Some of these beings, there is a capture or kill order out on them, because they just want to gather intelligence.

One of these beings was this feline-type being that had the ability to teleport anywhere it wanted. And it basically just had to think of where it wanted to go, change its vibration to the vibration of where it wanted to go, and it just was there.

And it was a very highly evolved species that this military group wanted to get a hold of.

So apparently, they set up some sort of – like in the movie “Jumper” – some sort of an electrical grid that when it popped in to have a meeting with someone it was meeting with on a regular basis, they were able to catch it in this grid.

And it basically electrocuted it to death. And we saw the body when it was being transported, and it was very tall. You know, it’s hard to tell the way they were carrying it.

It was sort of lavender-colored, and it had, like, net burn marks all over. The tip of its ear was burned almost all the way off.

But the weird thing is that even the sociopathic people that were there, everyone, was overcome with emotion.

Everyone just started . . . tears started rolling. You felt so incredibly sad about this being.

And there were people there that had no emotions, literally, that were crying.

Emery: Right.

David: Did you ever see feline-looking humanoids?

Emery: Yes.

David: Does any of this ring a bell?

Emery: Oh, yeah. Lots of feline, cat-looking-type beings.

David: So that was common?

Emery: It’s a common thing.

David: Hm.

Emery: Like you said, they’re highly intelligent, and some of them are transdimensional, so they have these various special abilities.

And some of them, actually, like an electric ell, have, like, electricity in them somehow. They’re always putting grounding plates on these things before we operate on them to make sure that we don’t have any static, or they don’t have any electricity left.

Corey: Yeah, I know what you’re talking about.

Emery: You know what I’m talking about? So it’s like . . . You know, I don’t like working on those because a lot of people, even though they had the grounding plates on them, they were electrocuted – some of the technicians and physicians.

David: Really?

Emery: But other than that, yeah, they’re very common. There’s many different types of species from all over the universe.

And I haven’t . . .I don’t know of any that were bad that I could recall, in the briefings, I mean, when we do get that sometimes.

So that’s a good sign that they have super powers and they’re not aggressive.

Corey: Yeah, this particular being, I remember, was visiting a certain individual, giving them spiritual advice and knowledge.

Emery: Oh, wow!

Corey: And the individual that it was visiting was killed in the capture as well.

Emery: Interesting! Wow!

Corey: They were getting information of a spiritual nature from this being that was appearing to him from time to time.

And some of the technology they have is able to tell when something teleports in, you know.

Emery: Right. Sure.

Corey: I mean, it’s like there’s a disturbance in their grid . . .

Emery: Absolutely.

Corey: . . . that they’re able to triangulate in on.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Well, we’ve been talking about the prison system – that’s a big part of this show – and so in the time we have left here, I’d like to ask this one last question.

There’s been a variety of sci-fi movies that may have been inspired by the Cabal, that seem to be talking about the idea of prisons where people are put into some kind of suspended animation.

So we have a specific question from the audience, because we like to answer your questions, and it said: Do you have any information about the US prison systems on Earth developing suspended animation detention technology?

Are they actually doing that to either of your knowledge?

Emery: I’m aware of that, definitely. They do this. It’s a cost-effective way of keeping people at bay that have done some things, bad things.

Corey: I’ve heard of them doing this to certain special operators that have gone rogue, that are just too dangerous to be released into civilization.

But I haven’t heard of any plans to do that on the general population prison system, though I wouldn’t doubt that plans are there.

Emery: I doubt that. Yeah.

David: Well, within the rule of law, I think the ethical objections would be so high, I don’t think it could ever be approved by any legitimate elected government.

Emery: Yeah, there are entire planets like that that have these suspended animation holding cells, . . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . they call them. And not saying the planet is as big as Earth, but pretty big planets that are out there. I’m sure Corey knows about this. And that’s where they keep them.

David: I did hear from the space program insider, Jacob, that he described there were prison planets, that there were planets in which the main function of that planet was to imprison people and keep them from leaving.

Corey: It sounds like what we’re living on a little bit.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: Yeah. It’s very similar.

David: Well, Jacob had specifically said you would not want to ever get caught in one of these planets, that it’s an incredibly miserable existence if you’re in one of those situations.

Emery: Well, the ones I’m talking about were suspended animation and cryo.

So these beings are in a deep sleep for hundreds of thousands of years, and a thousand years, 100 years, could be even longer, depending on what they did.

David: Well, you guys have both done a great job here. It’s a very enlightening discussion.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with Emery Smith, Corey Goode and me, your host, David Wilcock. Thanks for watching.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Aliens At Home On Earth

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Emery Smith and Corey Goode, and we’re talking about ETs living among us.

Emery, welcome to the show.

Emery Smith: Thank you, Dave.

David: And Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So just to open this up, Emery, to your knowledge are there extraterrestrial beings that did not originate on Earth that would be able to pose as humans from Earth to a degree that we wouldn’t notice that they were any different?

Emery: 100% you would not know.

David: Okay.

Emery: And they are here.

David: And could you tell us a little more about that?

Emery: Well, extraterrestrials also come to watch over us and look at things on the Earth.

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And they’re here to gather information to make sure we don’t blow up the Earth or kill each other.

So they’re here just to get information and have it and to also experience the life of a human, which is quite preferably like a vacation for them.

So it’s a very interesting scientific job for an extraterrestrial to have. It’s kind of an honor to come here, live amongst us, and do things, just living like a normal human being, actually, and interacting with human beings.

Corey: Like the Peace Corps.

Emery: Right, just like the Peace . . . It’s like a universal Peace Corps.

David: Is there any . . . either of you guys can take this. Is there any regulation on this? Is this a legal immigration program? Or is it sort of something where they just show up, and we don’t know about it?

Corey: It’s both.

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It’s both. Some of them are from other star systems far away that are paying very close attention to what’s going on here, including the Draco conquest of star systems.

So they’ll send people in to do a little reconnaissance.

Emery: Sure.

Corey: And when they come in, and they come in without permission, if they get caught, it’s not a good thing for them at all.

Emery: No, right.

Corey: There’s actually a program that I was a part of called the Intruder, Intercept and Interrogation Program. And we ran into quite a few different species that were here without permission.

David: All right, well, let’s just . . . I want to ask another question that might seem dumb, but I think we could get somewhere with it.

When we went back to the original Disclosure Project event, 2001 – and you worked with Dr. Greer for many years . . .

Emery: Absolutely, yes.

David: You had access to those insiders, obviously.

Emery: Yes.

David: In the Disclosure Project 2001 event at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, you had Sergeant Clifford Stone, who goes up there and says that there was this group of 57 different ETs that he had on a checklist that they called “the Heinz 57”.

And he said that many of them looked almost exactly or exactly like us.

He had a theory, that I guess was the common theory at the time, that maybe some primordial human race had just gone around and seeded itself all over the galaxy.

Do you think that’s why there are people on other planets that look like us? What do you think might be the explanation for this?

Emery: Well, the explanation for that would be: they have . . . the Earth itself has been here a very long time. And people are . . . it’s hard for them to grab that concept that it’s been here for billions of years

And what has happened is: during that time, Earth had many visitors and made different types of extraterrestrials that had lived here.

Corey: Refugees. Lots of refugees.

Emery: Right, lots of refugees that come here seeking a safe place to make another civilization.

David: Right.

Emery: So these civilizations colonized Earth. And with that, there were other extraterrestrials that came here and experimented with this human DNA and made hybrids. And they also made many other creatures that you find here on the planet.

If you look at everything, it’s a very intricate design, from a grasshopper to a blade of grass. There’s a lot going on.

Corey: Yeah, and also with intelligent design, usually when these genetic farmers come here, they have to have a base species to begin to engineer.

And from what I’m told, the Sun and our planet puts off a certain frequency that determines what type of life form we will be, five fingers, mammalian, and have a certain form.

So there’s also that aspect to the development of species. And then they come in and then they begin to use various genome to change the race.

Emery: Right.

David: One of the things that this insider Jacob told me – and he’s the guy who has claimed to be in the Secret Space Program and visited over 2,000 off-planet locations and had information that correlated perfectly with what you said, Corey, when you showed up – he said that Earth has a much higher complexity of a genetic wave that supports far more diversity of life on this planet than would normally be able to happen on other planets.

So a lot of ETs have wanted to come here because you can basically drop off any life form you want, and it will be able to live here, whereas that might not normally happen.

Have either of you heard of something like that?

Emery: I wouldn’t say “any life form”, but yes, I would say that does happen. And I would say that a lot of the new species that people are finding every day . . . You know, people are finding new types of insects and new types of creatures on the bottom of the ocean.

So these discoveries are every day if you look it up. Every day there’s something discovered, especially like in the Amazon and whatnot, with plant life and small animals.

So, where are those coming from? And why haven’t we seen those in so long? We’ve been here a few thousand years.

So, you know, what’s going on?

And this is what’s going on: we’re being seeded still to this day, and genetic mutation is still happening to this day with all of us AND the animals AND the oceans.

So, you know, it’s evolving here as well. So don’t take mutation as a bad thing.

Some mutations are good because it keeps us alive.

Corey: What was interesting is: in the Intruder, Intercept and Interrogation program, only about 10% to 15% of the beings that we processed were what we would call “alien-looking”.

Emery: Right.

Corey: Most of them were very human-looking. And they weren’t augmented to look human. They were humans –

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . just from a different planet. And they would normally be picked up in countries where they would most likely blend in.

Emery: Sure.

Corey: Like there were some Polynesian-looking ones.

Emery: Right. The Nordics and all this. Right.

David: It definitely has to be asked: if there is some kind of regulation of this, it’s clearly not the United Nations. It’s clearly not elected officials.

How is this governed, and who is in charge?

Corey: There are . . . I mean, most of the information from this program is very disturbing. And I’ve hesi . . . I have not shared it.

But an interesting thing is that if any type of a certain category of insectoid being, or any type of Reptilian being, was recovered in this program, they were turned over to the Draco.

And some of them were not friendly at all to the Draco.

David: So how would somebody who has such a diverse biological makeup be able to walk around on Earth? Like what’s going on there?

Corey: Like I said, many of them look like us. Others are able to augment their appearance.

They’re so highly intelligent that they’re able to blend in with no problem.

And you [referring to Emery] were saying that they had jobs.

Emery: Uh-huh.

Corey: And I was there when some – it was a high-level executive – was pulled out of a high-rise building in the middle of the day.

They delta-waved everyone there, went in, and ingressed-egressed from the roof, took him out, and brought him up for interrogation.

And he had been on the Earth for well over a decade and had blended in, had created an identity, and was now at a high position in a corporation.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, they prepare these extraterrestrials to come to this planet, so there is some genetic, you know, inoculations going on like what we do here as far as frequency goes, how they survive here – and even as far as getting certain procedures done on their body so they can digest our food and things like this.

David: Huh!

Emery: So there is a big augmentation for the extraterrestrial . . .

Corey: And acclimation.

Emery: And acclimation.

Corey: What was . . . When they were tracing back in the program, a lot of these beings, when the . . . their origin of when they got here – because they’re able to trace it back technologically; it’s very interesting – they found out that their first point of contact on this planet was an abductee – an abductee that knew what they were doing.

They were taking this extraterrestrial in, teaching them how to . . . all about taxes, all about the things from our society to help them integrate.

David: So you’re saying that an ET group that looks human would scoop somebody up at night out of their home, let’s say, and then bring them up to the ship and interview them about Earth culture and then learn from that?

Corey: No. I’m saying that these abductees may find . . . their friends and family may find them out of the blue having a new roommate that they are teaching how to acclimate into our society.

David: Huh! That’s very interesting. So the abductee is aware that this person is not a regular person?

Corey: Absolutely.

David: How do they ensure silence?

Corey: Well, these people are dedicated to helping this race. They’ve got a whole mission statement, you know.

They’re helping humanity, or . . . you know, for whatever reason.

But they’re unapologetic when they’ve been interviewed.

David: So, Corey, you were starting to answer the question of how is this governed, who’s in charge. And who is responsible for making the call as to whether someone is a legal or an illegal immigrant?

Corey: Ultimately it’s a corporate decision. The Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate heads up that initiative.

David: And that’s a division of the Secret Space Program.

Corey: It is.

David: Yeah.

Corey: And they report, obviously, to the Draco.

David: Hm.

Corey: Yeah, there were times when we would get in a Reptilian-type being that they [the being] completely were freaked out at the prospect of being sent to the Reptilians . . .

David: Oh, really.

Corey: . . . to the Draco. They were basically here scouting, looking for tactics and ways to infiltrate and defeat the Draco.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: So that they’re an enemy. And there were different types.

There were some different insectoid types as well that they were immediately on the list to be handed over. And they would scream and protest about being sent.

David: So we have talked about this on the show before, but in case someone hasn’t been watching, how would an insectoid type be able to walk around on Earth undetected?

Corey: A lot of the insectoids, and I reported on Mars there were two or three different security outposts that saw a being walking their way, and they were each describing them differently.

David: Oh, really?

Corey: And one of them saw a human in their group’s gear, the proper gear. Another one saw just a different . . . they saw something differently.

So these beings have this . . . And they assumed that it was part of their development as they were predators developing the ability to stun their prey with their minds, or make their prey see things.

Emery: It’s a mind thing. That’s right.

Corey: Right. So what they do is they can affect the consciousness of thousands of people at one time.

And some of them are technologically enhanced, and it causes us to see them. And if we were to touch them, our minds . . . what the mind perceives, the body believes.

If our mind is telling us that we’re touching human skin, that’s what we’re going to experience. So it’s all in the mind.

Emery: Right. Yeah. Absolutely. That is true.

David: Were you familiar with that happening, that beings could throw an image over their selves when someone looked at them?

Emery: Over thousands of people, even.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. So they have great mental magic, that they can make you believe anything and make you see anything.

And that’s very dangerous in a way, but luckily there’s nothing that has gone too bad with that, that I’m aware of.

But operating on these beings, which I’ve seen them, plus I’ve seen them outfitted with types of, you know . . . like you said, these other devices that are plugged directly into their body.

David: Like a wet-wired socket that’s in their body?

Corey: Some.

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah.

Corey: Some just touching it to their skin interacted with their neurology. There was no type of surgical implant.

Like the one that I talked about, it strangely enough, it was an insectoid. It had segmented arms, you know, like an insect . . .

Emery: Sure.

Corey: . . . that made its biceps and triceps, you know; its segments like this.

Emery: Yeah.

Corey: And on the bicep part of the segment was a bracelet.

Emery: Uh huh.

Corey: And they had a difficult time capturing these beings because they were able to touch this bracelet, or activate this bracelet, and they would – bzzzzz – vibrate so fast that you couldn’t see them.

Emery: They’re invisible.

Corey: Right. And I think it was a Marine, or one of the security guys, took it and put it on his bicep, and he turned it on, and it shook him to death violently.

Emery: Uh huh.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Couldn’t handle it.

David: Did you ever see any type of hardware that the beings’ bodies were wearing when they got brought in on these gurneys?

Emery: Oh, yes, many of them. Some had like very skin-tight suits on that were made up of billions of spheres, micro-nano spheres.

We later learned that was . . . We reverse-engineered that into these special predator suits that reflect whatever’s behind you, in front of you.

David: Right.

Emery: So it’s the ultimate camouflage. And that was all reverse-engineered from . . . even insectoids came in with partially clothed or whatnot. I get that question a lot.

“Do ETs or do aliens,” which is inappropriate, “wear clothing?”

And yes, they do, but it’s very rare, and it’s more . . .

Corey: A tool.

Emery: . . . functional.

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: Yeah, it’s a tool. Ha, we said it at the same time.

And they use it. And they use it for many different things. Like these bracelets, I’ve seen these things on beings that come in. And some of them actually come in . . . They don’t like strip it down.

The ET, when I get it, it could have things on it already and it just came to me first.

David: But you’re not allowed to do anything you’re not authorized to, right? So you couldn’t even touch it or . . .

Emery: Oh, no, if I’m seeing it, it means that we’re doing something. I have something to do with this extraterrestrial.

David: But you couldn’t touch the bracelet, let’s say.

Emery: No, I wouldn’t touch . . . Oh, gosh, no. I would never touch anything, you know . . .

Corey: Because it’s dangerous.

Emery: It’s like . . . I do underwater photography and I’ll film these guys all day long, swimming, grabbing these great white and these hammerheads and taking a little ride, but I’m not interacting with them, because I’m not . . . I don’t know, you know . . . I don’t know them well enough.

And when you see an extraterrestrial there with a bunch of gear on it, and you just need to do a skin scraping, you’re not going to . . . you don’t want to mess with that, because so many people have died in the projects because curiosity killed the cat.

And I’ve seen hundreds of videos of technicians . . . and they show us when things go bad. Everything’s recorded.

So I’ve seen a lot of deaths on video they show us, like, “make sure this doesn’t happen to you.”

David: Wow!

Emery: And that’s these things where they try to take a piece of jewelry off they think . . . or to get to a spot, or they move the body in certain positions also that somehow activates something.

Corey: Or they’ll release a gas or . . .

Emery: Oh, my goodness! Right.

And that’s why, now, we’re in spacesuits, of course, and all this stuff, because you never know, especially if you’ve never had that species before, what could happen.

And, you know, there’s many accidents that happen that you don’t hear about.

Corey: There are some chemicals that are in these beings that interact with air and moisture that will catch on fire or explode.

Emery: Yes.

David: Well, you mentioned the predator suit. And this is a question I’m sure we would get in the comment section if I don’t ask it.

Would there be . . . Are there certain situations like what happened in the movie “Predator” where a being comes here and basically just wants to kill a bunch of people until somebody catches it?

Emery: I’m not aware of that. Maybe you are, Corey. I’ve never . . .

Corey: No. No, they come in with a very small footprint and want to be undetected. This area is policed too much for that kind of thing.

David: Well, so we can safely dispense with a lot of the fear porn that people might try to concoct if they don’t have this question answered by you guys, because people are going to think that there’s beings that are just going around and biting people’s heads off and doing all kinds of crazy, nasty stuff.

Emery: No, no., those are called “humans”.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: It happened in Miami.

Corey: Yeah, the biggest monsters on this planet are human.

Emery: Right.

Corey: But no, a lot of these beings, they’re just here to study us and to get intel.

David: Right.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And are doing research.

David: And it sounds actually like . . . what you were saying before, Corey, that if one of these beings gets captured when it’s here on an unapproved mission, that’s a lot worse than if it wasn’t captured because of what happens when it goes to the Draco.

Corey: Well, yeah. And also, the scope of this program, the Intercept and Interrogation Program, is they also monitor like “Men in Black”, monitor ETs that are here WITH permission that are integrated into our society.

They also manage them to keep them apart if they are groups that don’t get along well. Or if they happen TO mix and not get along, then this group goes down, and they basically behave as police.

David: Well, we’ve talked about this before, Corey, but I also think it’s important to reiterate. And I know you don’t have really specific data, but do we have any sense as to how many approved immigrants there are on this planet that are not from here that are blending in our society?

Corey: It was . . . Back in the ’90s, it was many, many tens of . . . I mean, many thousands.

Emery: 100,000 was the numbers I’m recently getting in the past six months.

Corey: Yeah. And it was probably a smaller number when I was in, but it was a . . . And it was in just about every country. It’s well known that they were integrated.

David: Well, if you [Emery] said 100,000 is a number you got in a briefing recently, and then Corey, you said that the genetic type determines where they go, these would be maybe fairly evenly distributed throughout the planet? Or would they go to more of the developed countries instead?

Corey: It depends on their mission, like some of them are here as like the Peace Corps.

So some of them are here to spend time amongst the poorest of us, to learn about out development.

Emery: They’re listening to the stories.

Corey: And how they can guide it.

Emery: Yeah, they’re listening to the people’s stories. And they’re recording all this information from country to country into a huge database.

And they’re trying to figure out what went wrong or where are we going or . . .

Corey: Our sociology, you know.

Emery: Right. They’re trying to help us.

Corey: How we think.

Emery: But by doing that and getting someone to live with someone in Zimbabwe and someone in Poland and someone in Russia and someone in America, and all of these agents are recording all this stuff and finding and reading the emotion behind it and seeing how . . . you know, who’s responsible for that.

And they’re going up the chain, too. It’s not just the regular farmers and people out in the woods. It’s actually now becoming pretty popular to have this extraterrestrial exchange student and this training and stuff.

David: So if the Draco are ultimately regulating the immigration, and they are, of course, diabolical, chaotic, evil, then how would somebody get a benevolent plan approved if they’re going up against this very . . .

Corey: It’s more of an understanding. It’s more of an understanding that if we have a certain group that presents itself, certain types of beings, that we will, because of this alliance we have with the Draco, that we will pass these prisoners on.

I’m sure we have some sort of similar agreement with them that if they run across a certain type of situation, information gets passed to us.

It’s kind of how they do these treaties.

David: So maybe there are universal laws where the Draco have to allow some of this to happen as long as it’s done through approved channels.

Corey: Possibly, but the Draco do not control everything. They just control a certain percentage.

David: I see. So one of the things that we had is a viewer question that we want to throw in here is regarding abductions.

Now, Emery, you talked before about PLFs. So just to set this up, could you again remind us what you knew about PLFs.

What do they look like? What does that mean? What is a PLF?

Emery: Well, Programmed Life Form is a bioengineered, cybernetic organism. And what it does is: they grow these and they outfit them for many different missions.

So one of the ones I saw looked like Felix the Cat.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah, it was about 3½ ‘~4’ tall. It was very agile.

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It came to one of our rental homes during a CE5 expedition at night.

David: Really?

Emery: And it scared one of our master team leaders in the bedroom. And I was running a lot of security back then. And I was in that house with the core team.

And I ran . . . I just jumped out of the bed in my underwear and ran out, out of the door with my gun.

And sure enough, it was trying to get into the window of the home.

And it just stood up and walked 10′. And there was a 3′ brick . . . uh, stone wall, and after that it’s like a cliff, just with jagged rocks going down at like a 45° or less angle.

And I was just so amazed and intrigued by its beautiful eyes and ears. And the way it was moving was so fluid.

And it just emanated this, like, most horrible energy that makes you gut-wrenchingly sick to your stomach. But I was still able to stand. It was more like a sea-sick feeling, like just, ugh, automatically I just wanted to vomit.

So it just . . .

David: Well, now wait a minute.

Emery: Yeah.

David: When you say it looked like Felix the Cat, are we saying like comically obviously . . .

Emery: Comically.

David: . . . looking like Felix the Cat?

Emery: Comically. Think of a rubber latex Felix the Cat standing about 4′ tall.

David: Oh, my gosh!

Emery: And double-jointed in the kneecaps, by the way.

And it just was . . . I had a very bright light, and I was shining it down and holding my gun, looking at it, and it just basically hopped from rock to rock so quickly and went away.

It was there for surveillance. And whoever was remote-controlling that . . . because that afternoon at noon when I looked up on the cliff about 100 stories up, [there] were two black SUVs and six suits. They didn’t know I had seen them.

I was working out in the backyard and went under this rock through this canyon and looked up at them. And I totally got a great look at them.

So they were already planning it out to get in this house.

We also found very odd footprints on the outside table and spa that went up to the roof. So this being was already . . . been around the house a few times at 3:30, 4:00 AM surveilling.

So these creatures might be used for surveillance. They might be used for a one-way mission.

They’re also put on a spacecraft to go to different places to gather information and hopefully come back.

Corey: They weaponize them also.

Emery: Right. They’re amazing weapons. And they also . . .

Corey: Explosives and all.

David: . . . make them so they can only swim in the water maybe, or . . . you know.

So it’s very . . . The way they design these . . . maybe it’s going to be in the Arctic. So you need an Arctic one. You need a tropical one. You need, you know, all these different types of environments it’s going to. It’s geared for that environment to that specific mission.

So it’s not a conscious being. This is a remote-controlled, half organic, mostly cybernetic organism that they have perfected in the MIL labs.

David: So, this viewer is thinking that if there is an authentic abduction that you’re going to have organ harvesting and fetuses implanted in the body.

Emery: From a real extraterrestrial?

David: Right.

Emery: Well, I’m telling you, these beings that have traveled billions of light years . . . and that means they have something other than gas, coal and oil powering their little ship. You know, they mastered zero point energy, free energy and time and space and all this – all these physics that we are dying to have this technology.

That means they can pretty much make anything they want – ANYTHING they want. So they don’t need, you know . . .

Corey: Their technology is consciousness and vibration. They understand the co-creative consciousness and everything is vibration and how to manipulate matter on a level that we just don’t understand.

Emery: Exactly. So they can make gold. They can make a sperm with my DNA in it. They can make pretty much anything they want.

So they don’t need anyone’s eggs or sperm or fetuses or implantation. There’s no need for this. They’re at a very high level of consciousness. And someday, we’ll be there.

The movies and everything has manipulated us to . . . and a lot of abductees have this implanted in their head or whatnot, and they really believe this.

And these things may have happened through a non-authentic abduction.

Corey: Yeah, and there’s also the aspect that, like I said, most of the abductions, they are re-abductions.

People that are a part of these genetic programs where they’re having fetuses implanted and these types of things, when they are returned, they are re-abducted by the military, who then go in, do some tests, try to figure out what’s going on, then give the person a screen memory with our technology, which is why a lot of these abductees have a hard time, because our method is very messy.

The ET method is elegant and precise.

So they [the military] create further problems for abductees by re-abducting them, debriefing them, examining them again, further traumatizing them, and then using a subpar method of removing the memory or giving them a screen memory.

Emery: They have reoccurring nightmares, and, you know, these things keep going on. It’s not helping them for what they’re doing at all. But this is just the way it is right now.

David: All right, I want to ask one last question on this subject, which is kind of dumb, but I think it’s important. What’s the endgame? Why would a group that has colonized our Solar System and has interaction with all these ETs want us to think that ETs are evil and traumatizing us and doing these horrifying abductions?

Emery: So when they DO come and we DO kill them with our military, that we have the support of the people. We have to have the support of the people to move forward and kill these horrible, nasty creatures that are coming here to take over the planet. So that’s why.

And why do that? Because if you do prove ETs exist, the first thing Harvard and Stanford physics guys are gonna ask, “Well, how the heck did they get here? They didn’t use gas, coal and oil.”

“Oh, well, there’s this other thing we didn’t talk to you about that’s been out there since 1899 . . .”

Corey: Which is . . .

Emery: “. . . the Tesla and Stubblefield know.”

Corey: Yeah, the greatest classification in the land is not that there are ETs. It’s how they got here.

Emery: Right, exactly, because that solves everything. And so it’s gas, coal and oil, you know.

If you prove they exist, then we gotta get rid of gas, coal and oil, because we don’t need them anymore.

David: All right. Emery, we had a question in the comments from one of the episodes that was just you and me regarding benevolent abductions, your understanding of that, because it appeared in the comments, some people thought that you were saying that ALL abductions were PLFs, that there’s nothing going on that’s positive.

Emery: No. Right. No, of course not. That definitely happens: where these abductions come and maybe to help somebody out or maybe to educate someone on something.

And there’s also these other close encounters where people are actually going to the craft or walking up to the ET to meet them in a very nonchalant way and not showing fear and showing a more welcome attitude and a high consciousness, which is happening all over now.

And people are contacting extraterrestrials.

So people are wanting this. And the abductees . . . I think what has happened from my experience of listening to these people is: it’s always been a very positive outcome of whatever it was.

And I notice a lot of these people were going through very hard times of their life or they were injured or they had a very bad disease.

David: Hm.

Emery: And they were taken aboard this ship without knowing, but it turned out to be a really beautiful thing for them.

David: It sounds to me like if this military-industrial complex space program is creating this fear of negative ETs, that that’s the same as how every other conquering race has demonized indigenous people and said: “They’re savages. They’re blood drinkers. They’re dangerous. We’ve got to wipe them out.”

So they’re just doing the same thing, except now instead of it being continents and oceans, it’s planets between planets.

Emery: Correct. You know, we are kind of just divide and conquer. The human race just goes places, and the more intelligent human on the planet teaching the savages to “study this religion and do this or you’re going to die” type of thing, which we’ve done in the past, is now the opposite.

We’re the dumb ones, they’re thinking, and they’re too smart for us, so they’re going to do what we did.

Corey: Right.

Emery: And the thing is: they’re not like that.

Corey: Columbus all over again.

Emery: Right. So don’t think like a human is what I’m trying to get at.

David: So I want to dumb it down a little bit here. And I want to talk about the abduction phenomenon that most people in conventional ufology are aware of.

And just to set this up . . .

Emery: So PLFs are used for that. I know there’s a lot of comments online, and people are like, “Well, he doesn’t believe in real . . .”

Well, no, there are. I’m not saying it’s ALL just those abductions, PLFs.

Corey: And these are usually the human abductions that come AFTER the alien abductions.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And they use PLFs and puppets.

Emery: Sure.

Corey: They use puppets, too, and they drug the people.

Emery: Right, and they drug the people.

David: So what people are seeing as Greys, is that a PLF in a lot of cases?

Emery: I’m saying that probably 90% of a lot of these abductions are, you know, man-made, human-made. And, you know, others are . . . real and are possibly real.

And I think that people out there need to understand that it’s just through my experience and through my briefings and knowing people who have been on these projects that this is how they do it.

And they definitely mind-wash you and they brainwash you and they put these . . . you know, after they, like Corey just said: they’ll come up to the house, gas the house, and at the same time, there will be a puppet outside the window, you know.

And then the next thing you know, you’re knocked out, okay, and you wake up in an operating room. And you’re groggy, and they gave you medications that make you kind of forget-not-forget.

Corey: Yeah, any anesthesia is . . .

David: Why is [it that] everyone can’t be really specific about it, because everyone’s always a little . . . , you know . . . not everyone, but most people . . . and it’s because you’re drugged.

And, you know, they want you just to see a couple things. They want you to see a big Grey or a little Grey running around, poking you in the butt or whatever.

And what happens is: you wake up in your bed the next day or on the side of the road, and you were abducted. And they WERE abducted.

Now, who abducted them is the question. And it WAS a real abduction, and you DID have something done to you. But was it extraterrestrial is the question.

Corey: Yeah. And another thing is these Grey-looking PLFs are standard hardware for many different ET groups.

Emery: Right.

Corey: So many times, the ETs, when they do abduct, they’ll be in the next room, and it could be an insectoid. It could be any type, including a human.

Emery: Right.

Corey: But they all use this same type of PLF. And it is in there doing the hands-on work of doing whatever procedures are.

And it’s not only so that we don’t know who they are, but it’s also kind of like wearing a spacesuit. You know, they don’t have to worry about getting any type of viruses or anything else from the subject.

Emery: Right. That’s why they’re so good, the PLFs.

Corey: Uh huh.

David: Okay, we are out of time, but I wanted to end this on a positive note, because we’re getting into some disturbing material here.

So I want to give both you guys a chance to do a little 30-second elevator speech on this. Do you think that what we’re doing with this show to promote disclosure will stop the abductions? And if so, why?

Corey: Yes, disclosure is going to stop a lot of the human abductions . . . the human-led abductions.

Most of these human-led abductions are really re-abs or re-abductions. They’re trying to figure out and catalog, follow, what the ETs are doing with us when they pick us up in abductions.

I recently reported that this genetic experiment is pretty much coming, not to an end, but humanity is going to take over their own management of this genetic program.

So, yes, we are about to go through a very empowered period to where we’re going to be in control of our own genetic and spiritual determination.

And there’s not going to be a need for all of these beings to come down and abduct us.

David: Right. Emery, how . . . what about your thoughts on this?

Emery: Yeah, I agree with that. And I also think that once disclosure does happen, you know, that also opens the doors for extraterrestrials to come here safely.

So there is going to be a huge meeting of many different races of extraterrestrials in the Galactic Federation.

And what’s going to happen is: once these extraterrestrials actually do show themselves and everyone will be able to lower their shields down because you’ll notice, “Well, my goodness, talking to you, you’re not so bad after all.”

So these things all have to be factored in as us opening our arms to these people to actually bring cool technology also to us and to help us.

And they will also help us find out who HAS BEEN doing the abductions. And they will help protect us from the other ones that are doing the abductions.

David: Right.

Emery: So there’s this really joint venture out there right now, and they’re just waiting for us to get our heads screwed on right.

Corey: Uh huh.

Emery: So I think it’s going to be a good thing. I think people will have open arms. I know I will.

And it will be a big transition, like Corey said, and there will be a lot of education immediately put out on phones and computers and emails. And it’ll be instantaneous. It’ll be very quick.

David: All right. Well, this is really fascinating. Thank you, Emery. Thank you, Corey. And thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Rise of the Moss-Man

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with our special guest, Emery Smith.

And in this episode, we’re going to walk through what happened after he left the underground base.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave..

David: Let’s now talk through how your assignment with these autopsies ended. First of all, you had mentioned before that about every four months you got another security clearance. And I believe you said that you had stopped at A22.

Is that correct?

Emery: That’s correct.

David: Okay. How many cycles of this autopsy tour of duty, if you will, did you do? How long were you actually . . .

Emery: About 22. About 22 quarterly advancements.

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David: Okay.

Emery: I never failed to get an advancement every quarter. So it took about an average of 4½, 5 years.

I finished my active duty in 5.5 years.

David: Now, did you continue to do your cover job the whole time you worked down there?

Emery: Yeah, I stayed an additional two quarters, actually, after I got out of the military. And they know things started getting a little different down there because – I think I told you this once before – I started getting bodies that were pretty warm.

And I could tell that they were very recent by the rigor mortis that barely set in.

But after I finished my work with the United States Air Force, I decided to stay working in the underground labs of Sandia and Los Alamos.

David: Did that allow you to have more hours since you didn’t have a cover job any more?

Emery: Absolutely, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . it sure did.

David: So tell me the difference between a shift that you would have had . . . Like, walk us through your typical day before you left the Air Force to after you left the Air Force.

Like, how many hours did you work? Where did you go? Just so we have a sense of that.

Emery: Yes, my work started at 5:30 AM at the Kirtland Air Force Base Hospital.

David: Okay.

Emery: We worked till about 2:30 to 3:30 PM, and then I went into work at 7:00 PM at the underground location.

And I would stay there, usually, anywhere from 4~8 hours, and then just go home and repeat that anywhere from 5~7 days a week.

The active duty job at Kirtland Air Force Base, I only worked Monday through Friday, pulling emergency trauma call usually one weekend a month.

And during these times, by pulling call, I was not allowed to work in the underground bases because I was not allowed to have a beeper, and beepers don’t work down there.

David: So once you left the Air Force, what was your schedule like in the underground base?

Emery: It was great. I kept the same hours because I liked working evenings. I’m a night person, and I’m very productive at night.

So I’d go in around 5:00 PM and be out of there by 1:00 or 2:00 AM. Sometimes, I would have to stay longer. Sometimes, I had to spend the night there.

I started transitioning over from doing the harvesting and autopsy work and moving more in the direction of biologics and was part of their biological warfare division where they were making all sorts of . . . types of things to control viruses and to also deploy viruses around the world.

David: Well, certainly in terms of known international agreements like the Geneva Convention, we’re not supposed to be using conventional chemical weapons or biological weapons.

Emery: Correct.

David: But this clearly sounds like they didn’t care about that.

Emery: Yeah, no, it was a total disregard for humanity. And they were trying to figure out how to make a virus that was very specific to your lineage.

So . . . And they would deploy these via using contrails with the jets. You know, you heard about these conspiracy theories.

And that’s one way they would do it, was just to spray a city. And let’s say they could get the lineage DNA from a specific ethnic race maybe. And if you had that genetic code in you, it would wipe out all that race, all that part of the human race.

David: Well, clearly nothing like that’s actually been done because we’re all still here.

Emery: Correct.

David: But they were trying to find things like this?

Emery: Yeah, and they took extraterrestrial DNA . . . Some extraterrestrials a long time ago could program their leukocytes and monocytes to combat certain genetic races.

So if you programmed your leukocytes and white blood cells, neutrophils, and whatnot to attack someone like me, and I was a different race, you would just have to come up to me and your body already has a virus in it which your white blood cells are okay with.

And by touching me or sneezing on me or just communicating with me somehow physically or airborne-wise, you could give me this virus, and it would kill me.

David: Well, I could see skeptics attacking you on this point because leukocytes would involve . . . they would need to involve blood to blood contact I would assume.

Emery: The leukocytes are protecting them from my virus. So if I have a virus and you know you have a virus, we can’t really fight each other or touch each other because we’ll die.

So those leukocytes were ramped up to fight this specific virus that I’m going to give you.

David: Okay.

Emery: So once it was airborne or transmitted through any blood pathogen wise or whatnot, it would get into your system.

David: I still don’t really think I’ve heard you say why they would . . . How would they justify designing an ethno-specific virus? What was the angle? What would they tell you about why this was necessary?

Emery: I was told there’s some religious organizations and factions out there that are actually trying to do this.

And just in case one day there is some sort of mass extinction of barely killing almost more than half of the population, and they wanted to get control over it.

And if they had some sort of gender, race beef with somebody, and they wanted to get rid of a certain type of race, that’s how they would release this.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: Were they trying to develop it for every type of person on Earth?

Emery: Well, I don’t know that. I was just . . . I know this because I heard scientists talking about it. And it wasn’t in a briefing that I read. I’ve actually heard the scientists talking about this type of technology.

And I was in a lower echelon part of the base once I got out of my active duty service from the military and was working on growing proteins and things.

David: Well, this is very disturbing stuff, and I’m curious as to what stories do they tell people who are working on this to make them feel like they’re doing a good job, or they’re serving their country.

What was the angle?

Emery: Yeah, the angle for that is most of them do know they’re doing this. And I know some scientists that have been in these projects that had a change of heart halfway through.

And these scientists, sometimes, if they try to get out and they’re that deep in, they will make sure that you can’t get out.

And they will inoculate you with things, so if you did return to the surface without getting the antidote, you would die from sunlight.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. And this is how they keep control of the scientists. Many of them have families on the outside, and they get fed up with some of the things that are going on because they’re afraid that if something did happen, it would maybe affect their grandchildren or their daughters and sons.

So they are starting to stand up now – the scientists in here. And they’re starting to fight back.

And the White Hats out there, the Cabal, are also getting a little bit upset about the small percentage of the Cabal that is kind of death and destruction.

David: Okay, so let’s now go through how your time working in the underground base ended. You had mentioned something about that warm specimens came in.

Did you decide that you wanted to quit and submit a resignation?

Emery: Yes.

David: How did this happen?

Emery: That’s exactly what I did. Just like you would with a normal job, you have to fill out a lot of paperwork, and you have to be tracked for x amount of time.

Mine was 20 years after I got out that I had to be willing to come in for questioning if needed. Or if I had surgeries, I would have to notify them. If I was traveling to hazardous locations, I would have to notify them.

There was different types of lists of things that you had to follow in order for you have a nice discharge from the underground civilian lab.

David: When Pete Peterson’s wife died, they . . . the people he’d been working for brought him in for an extended two month debriefing because they were very worried that the emotional trauma of losing this woman he was very attached to might cause him to start talking.

So did they monitor your life for these types of crises and could you end up getting brought back in if something happened?

Emery: Yes, absolutely, they did. And it’s happened even after my 20 years. I was approached even recently after my mother passed away last year.

So, yes, they do keep tabs, and it doesn’t bother me at all. I mean, I know they’re always looking anyway. There’s no sacred secret conversation on this planet, that’s for sure, because everything is recorded everywhere.

And they’ve had that technology when I was there. So that was 20 years ago that they had the technology to record all the vibrations on the planet and every voice.

David: You’ve probably heard about these satellites from the National Reconnaissance Office that are constantly recording the surface of the Earth where everybody is and have enough resolution that they could actually read the fine print on your driver’s license if you were just holding it in your hand.

Emery: Good grief, that was in the 1960s, sir.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: You know what we can do now? We can see what’s inside the walls.

We can see what kind of termite is eating inside your wall. And that’s public information now that they’re doing in South America. Big corporation that’s usually using that something, using that technology for spying, but now they’re using it to make money to support their, you know, other agendas.

So, yeah, these things have been around for a while. And you can go pretty much anywhere on the planet in 40 minutes with these satellites and get HD 4K pictures of anyone, regardless if there’s cloud coverage, . . .

David: Hm.

Emery: . . . you know, and also get a wave form back of exactly what it is.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: So let’s go to the point now where you filed all this paperwork and you get discharged. What is your life like immediately after you left this job?

You’re not in the military anymore. You’re not working underground anymore.

Where did you go? What did you do? And when was your next contact with the classified world?

Emery: Well, actually, I stayed in contact with the classified world in a medium state, which means: if there is a project coming or people are coming that you’re needed because of a very specific special thing, then I can go back and do a couple weeks or a week work with them.

David: Oh.

Emery: So I actually kept my clearance. And that you have to do twice a year. You have to check in and re-get your clearance and whatnot.

But I was . . . from that point, I stayed in New Mexico another couple of years, and then I went back to my hometown in Fort Myers, Florida to take care of my family. My mom and dad were not doing so well.

David: Well, but what did you do in New Mexico? Were you employed; do you have a job?

Emery: Yeah. Absolutely. I’m sorry.

David: Okay.

Emery: So after I got out of the underground projects, I stayed in New Mexico for an additional couple of years and was working at the University of New Mexico Hospital as a surgical first assist.

David: During those couple of years you said they would call you in at least twice a year for these checkups.

Emery: The twice a year is like keeping your clearance verification updated, because I would take at least maybe four days a month every now and then and work in the project still.

David: Okay. What types of assignments were you doing at that time? Could you walk us through one example of you working for four or five days after you had left the base full-time?

Emery: Yeah, at that time, I was just working with cells and culturing cells – not of Earth origin cells, I’ll say, – but that were very alive and well, and growing cells in Petri dishes. So nothing too exciting.

I moved away from all the autopsy stuff because I just . . . after having a couple of these beings come that were warm, I just had a really different feeling.

And then after meeting beings and seeing how beings are and not knowing any stories that I was not privy to, you know, it was just kind of . . . I just didn’t feel like it was right anymore, you know . . . to be part of that.

David: So let’s go now to . . . How did you get to Fort Myers and did you continue to interface with this classified world, and through what means?

Emery: Yes, I did. I stayed in contact with them and checked in twice a year. And just a few times they had some questions about some extraterrestrials that I had worked on in the past.

David: Did you have to travel back to New Mexico?

Emery: Yes, yes, I did. I had to travel . . .

David: And how did you do that?

Emery: I just got on a flight and traveled back.

David: Okay.

Emery: And the same thing: I would stay off base and would come in in the mornings, actually, instead of the evenings and get my duties, my duty paperwork, and show up to the gate at Sandia, and then actually go through a different location that goes underground through there, and not the same location.

I don’t know why they changed it once I got out. Maybe they just changed locations for their own reasons. I have no idea.

David: Did this means of entering the base have anything different from what you described was before, or was it just a different door?

Emery: No, it was a little different because now I’m working with biologics that are very dangerous. And you actually have to be monitored before you go in and after you go in through these special analyzers that you have to walk through.

So you have to go through this area to get cleansed. And one of these things would be called a dry plasma shower.

And the dry plasma shower basically was taking samples and killing surface bacteria that was all over you, that you just normally have. And it also somehow counts particles on your body to see if they resonate frequencies of known bad cellular material.

David: Could you wear clothes while you have the dry plasma?

Emery: Yes, you can.

David: Oh!

Emery: You can wear clothes. On the way out, though, you have to go through that with no clothes.

There’s another one that you have to go through after you change in the locker room, and it’s up to you if you want to do it, but it’s a protocol. It’s like not made for you to do, but everyone does it. We just do it as a precaution.

There’s a very small percentage that you may have had something when you leave those – not to say something is a bad something, but something you could have picked up from somebody else.

David: So I assume that your outdoor clothes are quarantined on the outside, and your indoor clothes are quarantined on the inside.

Emery: Correct. Yes.

David: Okay. So give me an example of a specific extraterrestrial species that you had autopsied before that you were called back in for more consultations on later. Tell us what it looked like and why did you get called back?

Emery: Well, they were mutating a bunch of extraterrestrials. So part one of the extraterrestrials that we were actually working on looked like a smaller human being – kind of troll-like. But it also had plant DNA in it.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it was very . . .It would probably remind you of one of those ghillie suits that snipers wear full of moss and leaves.

So think of a 24” to 36” tall troll-like being that has, instead of hair, it has real plant life growing on it.

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David: Wow!

Emery: Yes! And it also uses the energy from UV light to keep it healthy. And it actually absorbs moisture through its skin, and it’s very mossy like.

And it has . . . I’ve seen many of these. Some have, like, . . . it looks like a wig, like hair, but they’re so extremely mossy, like It on “The Addams Family”, that you cannot see its face unless you actually started pushing away the plant life that’s growing on this creature.

David: Would this plant life cause it to feel physical pain if it was removed?

Emery: No.

David: Or was it more like body hair?

Emery: No, it’s more like body hair, but the closer you get to where the stem is, the more nerve fibers and neurons that are in it.

So neurologically, the plant life has binded and mutated with real cellular material. That was a human and an ET.

David: I can’t read your mind about why you say it’s troll-like. Was there something about its face that was unusual?

Emery: Yes. The face . . .

David: Could you describe exactly what?

Emery: Yeah, I can tell you that on the face and neck of these types of creatures, it’s like a bark on a pine tree, and it’s very rough and cracked-like, very cracked.

So if you could dry a gray piece of clay in the Sun, and you know how it just crumbles and cracks away, that’s exactly what it looks like.

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But they do have a nose. They have a mouth. They have ears and they have eyes.

David: Well, a troll, for example, somebody might think of a really pronounced lower jaw with two teeth coming up like this or something.

Emery: No, no canine teeth like that – just regular teeth. And the insides are red and pink, like our mouths. And they have a tongue and they breathe.

It’s just they get a lot of their energy from their skin.

David: Do they have this plant life growing off of their face, or is the face area . . . if you pull it back . . .

Emery: Just the face area is, like I said, it’s this crumbly, crackly, bark-like hard core, very tough-looking face, very rigid, with no muscles in the face that you could tell for them to smile, or they can open their jaw and things like that.

But no facial features that you could really tell because of the roughness of this skin.

David: What were the facial proportions like compared to an Earth human?

Emery: Their head was much larger than the body, so you’re looking at a head that would be maybe just a half a size larger than our normal head.

David: What about the relationship of the size of the eyes, nose and mouth to the face?

Emery: It was very compact because you’re looking at a 36” being here.

So, you know, if you think of someone has dwarfism, for instance, around that kind of size where the legs and the bones are a little bit more compacted, not long and lean like ours are.

And they may have this moss growing all over their body. And you might even have leaves and vines coming out of the bodies, especially on the back.

The most pronounced is on the back where you have these vines and you have this moss growing off them. And then you have just the regular green moss you see growing on rocks on a stream, let’s say, on the rest of the body.

And very, very small hands and very, very small feet.

David: So you’re saying that this is not a natural species, but this was an engineered life form?

Emery: Correct.

David: Why would they want to make a vegetable/hominid being? Is it for covert work to conceal itself?

Emery: It is. It’s for covert work. They can go weeks without eating, as long as they have sunlight and water.

They can make their own nutrients through this plant interaction with cells.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it’s very fascinating science, by the way, of how that all is intertwined. But they did it.

David: Did you ever get to see or interact with a live moss being, as we can call it?

Emery: Yes, absolutely.

David: Okay. How did it communicate?

Emery: It communicated with its hands.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah, a type of sign language, yes.

David: And what was the feeling that you got from it? How was its level of intelligence, its level of ethics, its consciousness?

Emery: You know, I hate to say not negative, but it is a creepy, spooky type of being. And it’s very quiet and it’s very docile.

It reminds me of kind of like a chameleon that just kinda sits there and moves kinda slowly, like a sloth.

And they’re not very hyperactive beings. They’re just a very slow type of being. And they are taught, from what I was told – I don’t know this for a fact – but I was told through second-hand information that they were taught at a very young age how to communicate because they lack vocal cords.

David: Oh. So their face doesn’t move very much?

Emery: No.

David: You said it’s very hardened?

Emery: Yeah, It’s very hardened. It barely moves, but they can chew.

David: Do their eyes look like ours, or is there something different about the eyes?

Emery: They’re black.

David: They’re black?

Emery: Black eyes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: Wow!

Emery: There is no pupil. You cannot see their pupil. They’re pitch black, which does frighten some people.

David: So what would be the objective? If they were going to deploy these beings into the field, would these beings actually be used on the surface of the Earth?

Would they be for surveillance? Would they be trained to assassinate people?

What would they be doing?

Emery: Not to kill. They’re not that adept, but definitely for surveillance. I mean, the best . . . What better creatures – one that can’t make a sound.

David: Hm.

Emery: Engineered that way, by the way.

David: So give me an example of where the military-industrial complex would deploy a being like this for surveillance purposes?

Obviously, it could camouflage very well.

Emery: I can only speculate.

David: Okay.

Emery: I was not part of any deployment program to spy on with them. So alls I can say is: you would not know one if you even stepped on it. I mean, they’re THAT covered in whatever . . . They can add foliage to the mossy skin, by the way, to . . .

So let’s say they’re going to an area where it needs these types of colors. So they can get fungi and different types of moss and implant this on the body, and it will grow into that skin.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes, which is fascinating. So they can pretty much mask any type of field grass, any type of trees around the world, you know, by . . .

David: So part of their body would be like soil, and you could actually plant things in it?

Emery: It’s not soil, but it’s a honeycomb matrix of collagen tissue that can hold water for many, many weeks. It’s like a skin.

And it’s embedded in the skin and comes out of the skin, just like a honeycomb, but very small, on a very small size – micro-millimeter size. Yeah.

David: So had you first encountered these beings while you were still working full-time in the underground base?

Emery: Yes, I did. And I think because of these beings coming from an Inner Earth place, they were somehow able to grow things on them already.

David: Oh, so you’re saying there was an initial stock of being that they got from the Inner Earth that they modified.

Emery: Right. And they mixed it with more plant life and made it more into this robust creature.

David: Hm!

Emery: Yes.

David: So had you seen them alive back when you worked in the underground base? Or was this more of an autopsy situation?

Emery: I’ve seen them grown, yes.

David: How would they be grown?

Emery: In a big glass aquarium-type thing with UV lights, suspended off the ground about 3′ on these planter-type things.

David: So since we’re almost out of time here, I’m just curious if there’s anything else interesting about the moss being that you could share with us?

Emery: Absolutely.

David: It’s so bizarre.

Emery: One of the most amazing things is these things cannot procreate.

David: Oh!

Emery: They do not have organs like we do, but they do make seeds.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: And these seeds have DNA in them. Now, it’s not full of human tissue, okay? It’s still all plant life.

David: Hm.

Emery: Yeah, and I saw a collection of these seeds in an incubator when I was leaving. And one of my colleagues was talking about their doing a new experiment on another type of one of these moss beings.

And I asked why the clearance for you to talk about it was very open. He goes, “No, but I can show you the new incubators that were brought in.”

And we were walking by, and I just remember looking through this giant 3′ circular window and there was a seed in there as big as you – a lot of them.

David: Wow!

Emery: And I just . . . I really just was taken aback. And that was it. I mean, I wasn’t even allowed to know anymore. I wasn’t even allowed to speak.

David: Is it your understanding that the seed could somehow be gestated and become another one of these beings?

Emery: That’s what I’m thinking, or where did THAT seed come from?

David: Ha.

Emery: What dropped THAT seed?

David: Right.

Emery: I mean . . . I mean . . . They’re up to some amazing things in there. And there are no rules. There are no regulations.

David: So could you tell us: What was the reason why you were called back in after you had moved to Fort Myers to deal with this specific being again? What had happened or what was the reasoning behind that?

Emery: There was an incident on the lab and the team was destroyed.

David: An incident. Could you be a little more specific?

Emery: No.

David: Hm. Well, I would imply from what you said that there was some sort of hostile interaction with one of these beings?

Emery: No, not from the beings.

David: Oh, okay. So for some reason this is something that you really don’t want to tell us, or you were ordered not to say. Is that correct?

Emery: I just can’t . . . Like, it’s just too much to . . . I know those people, so . . .

David: Hm.

Emery: It’s too hard for me to talk about.

David: Okay. Can you give us another example of something interesting that you were called back for when you were living in Fort Myers?

Emery: I did go back just for the normal tissue sampling a couple of times. And it was just because they were short on technicians and short on staff.

I know there was an outbreak one time in the facility, and 20% of the facility people caught a very rare virus. And it’s kind of like the hantavirus. I don’t know if it was the hantavirus.

Sorry, I don’t know if you guys know about that. There was an outbreak of that in 1993. And there’s a virus . . .

David: You’re talking about the hantavirus?

Emery: Yeah.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And that virus . . . that was actually made in that facility.

David: This is the flesh-eating bacteria?

Emery: No, it gives you more like flu-like symptoms, and a . . . to death pretty quickly.

David: Wow!

Emery: And you’re ferociously vomiting and diarrhea, and your lungs start to shut down, and it’s hard to breathe.

David: Hm.

Emery: So there was a similar virus like that that actually broke out in the lab and people were deathly ill. Almost 20% of the bio area, the biologics area, was so sick. And, you know, they were not allowed to return to service. They had to go to the hospital, the underground hospital, and be quarantined.

David: Wow! Were there a lot of casualties?

Emery: Ah, yeah, there was. Half of the 20% passed.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: So you were brought in because of your expertise on this to try to help stop the outbreak?

Emery: No, I actually was just going so they could keep working – just normal work.

David: Oh, you were just like a fill-in.

Emery: I was just a fill-in – just PRN. [Pro re nata – literally “for the thing born”; a medical term meaning “as needed”.]

David: Wow! I’m curious – in just the last couple of minutes we have here – we’ve talked about some negative uses of this, but I’m wondering if this same technology could be used for positive purposes. And if so, do you have any specific knowledge about that?

Emery: Funny thing you asked that because part of this story that I had to return to New Mexico because of this outbreak of a virus that was made there that 20% of the people contracted, they designed a virus to kill that virus . . .

David: Oh, really?

Emery: . . . and save the other 10% in less than a few days.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: And it’s really hard to make a whole new species of bacteria or a virus in just a couple of days.

David: Wow!

Emery: They did not have this on the shelf. I know that for sure. But since then, they have been able to make viruses that fight viruses or bacteria that fight viruses.

And so it was a good thing that came out of it, even though it was a horrific, horrific accident that happened in there.

And THAT is now being employed in other civilian-use places, I believe.

And it’s coming out really slowly because they’re doing a lot of data [collection] on it. And I think that’s a positive thing.

I just know that through the part of the hybrid things I was involved with, they were changing DNA with viruses.

And it was the easiest way to mix a protein with a protein where it’s accepted. So the whole body would change.

And then they would take those cells and grow it and/or inoculate another being.

And that’s what they kept doing is inoculating beings over and over and over with these different types of viruses. And then you have this super being.

David: So we could have, for example, people starting to have super visions, super hearing, psychic abilities perhaps, all from these types of inoculation.

Emery: That’s correct.

David: Well, that’s very fascinating. Well, Emery, I want to thank you for coming forward. This is very fascinating, very bizarre information.

Emery: Very bizarre.

David: But sometimes the fact that it’s so bizarre makes me more inclined to believe that it’s true . . .

Emery: Yeah.

David: . . . because who would have ever invented or thought of something like this?

Emery: It’s definitely a hard nut to crack.

David: Yeah, that’s for sure. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with our special guest, Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: A Day In The Life Underground

David Wilcock: Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. We are here with our guest, Emery Smith.

In this episode, we’re going to talk about what it is like to have a day in the life on a highly classified underground base.

Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Hey, Dave.

David: We’ve talked in some length now about your autopsy experiences. We’ve kind of had an overview of that.

So I think you’re painting, now, a very intriguing picture, and it would be hard to spend some time in that world and then leave that world.

Was there ever a time that you got to stay in that world, that you actually stayed overnight at the base?

Emery: Yes, yes. Many times I had to stay the night in the base – I think maybe up to 60 times, actually, total.

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And the reason for that depends. There’s many different reasons why you would have to spend the night in a base.

They go on lockdown sometimes when you’re working there, and you might not know why it’s a lockdown. But you’re there, they close the hatches, and now you’re going to be spending an additional amount of time there other than your work duty time – that you do get paid for, by the way, long as you’re there.

And they have facilities there that are very nice, that you can stay the night, like barracks and whatnot, your own room, your own lavatory, a little even social areas where other people can also live.

The base . . . You could actually live there indefinitely.

And then getting back to why a lockdown would happen, there could have been a breach somehow into the base from another known contractor or other known entity, and everything gets locked down for a while.

And I do recall one time there was a huge explosion . . . that I could actually feel this vibration of this electromagnetic weapon.

And I don’t know where it came from, but part of the base, maybe a whole acre of the base, was completely destroyed from this explosion.

Now, the rumors I heard was they were practicing . . . utilizing some sort of electromagnetic weapon, and it completely disintegrated a huge sphere of the base.

And there was no radiation or anything like that, but they were just trying to contain the fires and the gas fires that were lit from this explosion, because they use a lot of different flammable gases and chemicals down there.

So now it became a contaminant issue of locking down all the air handlers in that area, locking down all the valves in the different rooms and whatnot.

And, you know, that took up probably 20 hours, I think, I was there for that one.

So these things happen, and you get a nice place to stay, and then you’ll just be updated. And you’ll hear either over an intercom, on your folder, or on your armband. And that’s what happens.

David: If you get a nice place to stay, how conventional is it? How much would it be like going to a hotel room as opposed to something odd like you might see in “Star Trek: The Next Generation”?

Emery: Yes. No, it’s . . . the rooms are never perfectly square. For some reason, they have trapezoidal shapes. There are many different shaped rooms.

And all of the furniture is actually built into the wall and actually comes out of the wall if you wanted to have a sit down or work at a desk.

It has a huge interactive screen on the wall. The screen is three-dimensional. You can do things like go on the Internet, you can read books, you can watch movies, you can order food – my favorite.

And it’s a really interesting dynamic because the room looks like – when you walked in – completely like, “Oh, my gosh, they just gave me a room without a bed.” You know, there’s nothing in there.

And it’s all built into the walls of the room.

I’m not talking about your stand in Murphy bed, either, closet bed that pops out. These are really beautiful.

The architecture of this is seamless, just like on the crafts. So these things will come out of the wall for saving space.

And these rooms are also used for different things. So maybe the room tonight is going to be used for someone to sleep here and spend the night, and maybe tomorrow it will be used for storage.

Or maybe it’ll be used for housing different types of extraterrestrial races because they’re all different. They need different types of furniture, different types of living facilities and restrooms and whatnot.

David: Okay. I’m really curious about one thing. If you’re saying that, like, the bed would extrude out of the wall, is it going to be this weird rubber sheet, or does it actually have sheets like you would have on a typical bed?

Like, in other words, . . .

Emery: Yeah, great question.

David: . . .is the bed with the sheets hidden on like a sliding tray, or is it more like it just kind of morphs out of something?

Emery: No, it is kind of industrial, where it actually either comes out of the wall or out of the floor. It raises our of the floor, or comes out of the wall.

David: Okay.

Emery: And there’s always a cover on these things, a very light cover that you pull off. And it has whatever bedding for that race. Like for us, of course, we would just have sheets and things like you said.

You also can control the temperature in your room. You can control the humidity, because different races need certain atmospheres to sleep in. So there’s all these different things.

There also needs different lighting. So there’s different . . . So you can actually put, like, if you wanted ultraviolet light in your room for some reason.

Many extraterrestrials have special lighting that they are accustomed to. They don’t like the lighting that we have. It’s uncomfortable for them. So they can take off their protective eyewear and rest and whatnot.

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So there’s many different things for this one little room. It’s like having your own little spaceship, actually.

And you can also change the background noise.

And there’s always a wall in there that projects, let’s say, an outside display like the ocean or a mountain top, and it’s because psychologically, it just helps us better to be in that environment and less stress and anxiety to be on the body.

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And you can also preview other photos that are already there and videos that show on the wall from other realms and planets, which was really neat because not everyone that’s not from Earth would want to see a beach, I’ll say.

David: This sounds like something that you’d really want to spend time in. It sounds really, really cool.

Being in this room were you able to sleep, or were you so jazzed by seeing alien worlds and technology that you just want to stay up all night just play around with it?

Emery: Well, yeah. It’s like your screen saver that comes . . . All these pictures come on your screen saver with your computer.

And once you’ve seen all 50 of them, it’s like old hat. It’s not a big deal. So where you want to pick today? What screen do you want?

The neat thing about sleeping is the bed is actually also self-contained. So it’ll have like a . . . On the sides of it, it actually comes in like a spiral, and it’s like a little globe, and it comes over your bed.

And that is for more with other races, where they have to have the environment pressurized for their body types.

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And inside that, which is neat, is kind of like you see the generic mood lighting you would have at a restaurant or whatever. There’s these little diagrams on the inside of the bed, like right on the side, on the top right side.

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And it’s like a little computer screen, and you can pick your moisture. You can pick your mood lighting. You can even pick a breeze of stuff. And I don’t know exactly where it comes from. I think it comes from under the bed, to be honest, because I’ve never seen a fan on this, but you do feel circulating air, which is neat.

And then you can also change the temperature in there compared to what’s on the outside of the bed.

So it is actually air tight because you can create a vacuum in there.

David: So let’s talk about the lockdown situation a little bit more. How do you know that there is a lockdown, first of all? Is there like an intercom system, or what happens?

Emery: Well, as you’re working in the operating room, don’t forget, there’s a system in there where they are always in contact with you through their helmets. So you can hear if something’s going on.

You know, they’ll come on and say, “We have a lockdown”. Okay? It’s not like I can respond to that. Can’t ask them why, where or what. You know, it’s all because of security. And it’s a normal thing.

And they’ll do fake lockdowns all the time just so you get used to the alarms, you get used to the red lights, you get used to these things that are signaling you so you don’t overreact. “Oh, it’s just another test. I’m going to keep . . .”

So it’s just like we have fire alarm checks in hotels and hospitals and airports, you know. They have to do that every now and then.

And sometimes, you know, you get used to that because you know once a month it happens.

So when it really DOES happen, and all of a sudden you DON’T hear within a few minutes that it’s just an alarm check, then you might think, “Oh, there must be something going on. I guess I’m not going home tonight.”

David: But somebody at some point briefed you on what a lockdown is and the level of danger that it might be? So could you tell us about how that information was conveyed?

Emery: Ah, well, you have to go through the training – part of your training in here that you have to do quarterly. Like in hospitals you have to get TB tested; you have to have your CPR accreditation every year. It’s the same thing in these test facilities and the real facilities.

You have in-services where they’re saying, “This is what happens on a lockdown. You stay where you’re at. You don’t go anywhere until we tell you where to go.”

If there’s an over-hour lockdown, which means it goes over your business hours, your working duty hours, then you’ll be instructed to go to a certain part of the facility where you can go into your room and maybe get something to eat at the cafeteria, or just kind of waiting it out, basically, is what you’re doing.

David: Could you tell us a little bit about the cafeteria, because when I hear cafeteria, I think of trays, and you go and you have scoops of food. You dump them on your thing. Or maybe somebody does that for you. You say, “I want that; I want that.”

Then you go to your table after you got your silverware. You paid a cashier.

How would this cafeteria be, like that, or is it different?

Emery: The cafeterias are nothing like we have here that we would normally see when you go out to eat.

These cafeterias are very plain on the inside. All the walls have a transparent mirror image coating where you can just touch the wall, order your menu of whatever you want.

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And let’s say you wanted to have a salad with grilled chicken. That’ll be on there.

It’s just like when someone’s taking your order. You’re taking your own order on this wall.

David: Would this be like an iPad kind of thing?

Emery: No, the entire wall. And these walls are huge and long. Some of the cafeterias there are like 60′ (18.3M] long.

And they have very . . . The chairs and the tables look so bland, kind of like a steel picnic table with stools. And some have backs, some don’t.

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Some are very large chairs. Some are very small for different sized people and different sized races.

Some chairs don’t look anything like chairs. Some have large countertops off the actual wall that extend like 3′ [0.9M] out of the wall. And some of those might be 6′ [1.83M] off the ground.

So that being said, it’s all a very intuitive program when you go up to the wall to order whatever you want.

So it you’re getting your chicken salad with your chocolate milkshake, you put the order in and you go down to the side of the wall, and it’ll be there on the inside. This glass will kind of move up, and then you can see the food there, and you just grab it and take it to your table.

David: There’s something I’m not visualizing, though, and that is: Are you saying that there’s just a huge number of different pieces of text of all these different types of food?

Emery: No.

David: Or can you click on things and open up folders?

Emery: You can click on it. They have a picture method of a diagram of different types of vegetables, different types of meats and things like that.

And the entire wall does it. So you could . . . Let’s say you’re taller than me, and you would touch the wall with your hand. And then a little scr . . .a little . . . it just comes clear. You can see a screen around you.

And it can do it all the way on the floor. So it doesn’t matter . . . There’s not a specific . . . Wherever you touch this wall, you know, this thing happens where you can actually place this order.

And this is just one cafeteria of many different kinds, but this is a really fun one. That’s why I want to talk about this one specifically, because I think people will relate to this – people that have been in the projects.

So here we go. So you get your food and you go down a little bit, and in the middle of the wall, there’s a big section that’s open. Like you could see a dishwasher person in a regular cafeteria where you put your trays in and stuff to wash.

It’s just the opposite. This is where the food is actually brought into this cubbyhole.

And what’s interesting is there’s also levels of the cubbyholes, of sizes off the floor, for different races and for different people.

And from there you just take your food to your table.

David: Is it on a tray?

Emery: No, it usually isn’t.

David: It would be like a plate, then?

Emery: Yeah. It’s a large plate with everything on it.

David: Okay.

Emery: Not a TV dinner. Now, they do have trays there if you want, but no one uses trays. You just grab your food and take it to the table.

And the table is the best thing about the cafeteria. I love the table because the table is another giant screen.

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These tables are 10’~20′ [3~6M] long, about 5′ [1.5M] across, 5’~6′ [1.5~1.83M] across. Some have already pre-positioned chairs at these tables.

You can fit 10, 20 people sometimes at a table, depending on the people that are sitting there.

And then there are tables that are just tables. And out of the actual ground, as you’re going up to the table, you just start to sit down and a stool comes out of the ground.

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David: Really?

Emery: It’s really neat. And it doesn’t look . . . Like you would think you would hear a sound of [MECHANICAL SOUND], like, “Your stool’s here”.

It was like . . . It just comes out of the ground silently, okay, but they’re all very similar sizes. The ones that come out of the ground are pretty much a normal, maybe, foot and a half in diameter.

Everyone knows where your silverware is. And your condiments and all that stuff are in the table.

So you have this giant picnic table, we’ll say, and it’s all made out of steel. Ah, ah, it looks like steel. Not stainless steel, like a matte steel.

The table itself looks like you’re eating off an iPhone screen, just so you know. I mean the table itself.

So when you put your hand out in a special motion, like flat hand is napkins, double tapping is forks, knives and spoons.

The actual napkin, as you go like this [Emery places his palm down flat in front of him] comes out of the table into your hand.

And I have no idea what this technology is, but there’s no sliding anything. There is not a door opening up and these condiments come out or anything like that.

It’s all just on tapping and pulling your hand across it to get something out.

Now, if you don’t know how to do that, which they do teach you different things to do, you can actually hold your hand on the table and a little intuitive apps will come up.

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And it will have a picture of a ketchup bottle, a picture of mustard, barbecue sauce, and all these little pictures. Everything’s pictures. There’s no words.

And you can touch and tap on the ketchup bottle or whatever, and the same thing happens. Whatever’s underneath this table, it becomes not solid in that area where the condiments are.

And you can actually . . . It starts to become clear, the table, where you can see the condiments right underneath your hand.

David: Are they like little ketchup packs like you get at the restaurant?

Emery: Oh, it’s the same stuff that we use.

David: Oh!

Emery: It’s the same stuff you probably get at the fast food restaurants.

David: Okay.

Emery: I don’t use condiments, but definitely this is one of the things that I was so intrigued about, and everybody was, because this technology could be used for a lot better things.

Like we could use that technology in surgery. But for whatever reason, this is how it is, and there is palpable. So once you take your hand off, it becomes solid again.

And this is probably one of the most amazing technologies that they share with everyone, but no one’s allowed to know how it works.

You can’t ask . . . Who are you going to . . . There’s no one to ask.

That’s another thing: You’re not allowed to ask about technologies. You’re not allowed to ask certain things about your room. You’re not allowed to ask about: “Why does he have this special folder and you don’t.”

And this is a really interesting concept of high tech stuff that’s way advanced compared to what we have right now here that should be out right now, but probably not because it would be dangerous.

David: Well, you said that this is napkin, right? [David lays his hand down flat with an open palm and pulls his hand back.] Down and out is “napkin”.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Double tap is for condiments or silverware.

Emery: Silverware.

David: Or silverware. So were there other gestures like that?

Emery: Yeah, there’s different gestures for your hand, especially if you use . . . double tapping, too . . . I’m sorry. I should tell you double tapping means you have to use at least two fingers.

David: Hm.

Emery: And there’s nothing more than two fingers, but you can also draw on the table, okay?

Let’s say you needed a special utensil because there’s different utensils for different races, which is really interesting.

And by putting your whole palm on the hand, then you get to scroll through that little app, and you can pick a special utensil or special whatever.

The other thing I must tell you is that where the napkins come out is different than where the condiments come out, which is different from where the silverware comes out.

And the silverware is always going to be on your left, and the condiments and napkins are on your right. And that’s all it does is those types of things.

David: Did you ever think that there might be some sort of particalization or materializer technology making the food? Because I’ve heard from a lot of other people that have been through similar things that they could “print” a meal.

Emery: Absolutely. All the food and everything that they have there that’s of substance – not drinks, though – but everything else is 3D printed.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah.

David: Do you know anything about whether there is a raw material that’s required to make the food that they start with? Or how does that work, exactly?

Emery: Well, through my experiences working with 3D printing of organs and other projects I’ve been involved with, it has to do with . . . Like you said, the particles and the atomic structure can be reproduced anywhere for a head of lettuce to a brain, which all have the same construct. It’s all mass and atoms and how those mass and atoms are rearranged in molecules.

So basically you can probably print anything. That’s why it’s so easy for the system to make you any kind of food you want.

They also have this device that the food goes through after it’s printed in the back that is able to cook the food to a certain temperature or cool It to a certain temperature, which I find fascinating.

But it does it within seconds. So medium rare, seconds. You know, below 32 degrees, seconds, because each meal is made in under, like, three minutes.

And that’s how fast these 3D printers are.

And you can hear them behind the wall.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. It’s very archaic noises like servos going back and forth and ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, and then, you know.

David: One of my space program insiders who never has been willing to come forward is named Jacob. And he described very similar things, but he also said that the food has some extra benefits that normal food wouldn’t have.

And I don’t want to lead you, but could you tell me if you knew anything like that?

Emery: Yes. That’s the great thing about the food there. It’s over nutritional.

What we have – standards here on the back of boxes and things – it’s just horrific that they could be doing this – you know, adding a little bit more vitamin C to something, or adding a little bit more minerals to something.

They do the least amount here out in the real world. But in there, it’s the opposite.

It’s like super heavy doses of all sorts of minerals and things that are not found “on the surface”, is what we say, and also takes away things that are harmful in there, like toxins and fats. It’s printed without any of that.

David: Jacob also said that this food could clean your mouth as you eat it and would digest into pure nutrition in your body. I’m curious if you had that experience.

Emery: I don’t know that for a fact. I just know what they’ve taught me and told me there about the nutritional value of the food. It’s the best of the best.

And there’s nothing in there that’s put in there to . . . You know, we are an investment to these corporations. We are a huge investment. And they take really good care of us as far as nutrition, medical, and things like that, unless you make a mistake.

David: Some of the people I’ve talked to about this printed food – not all of them – some of the insiders have said that it is the most amazingly good tasting, flavorful . . . like, it’s . . . like each meal is the best possible realization of that dish you could ever imagine.

Emery: That is true. It tastes better than anything I’ve had on the surface. And I think that has to do with the quality of the cells, or whatever, that they made the food from, and the amount of nutrition that goes in there and being able to print food without the bad things that are in normal meals, pesticides and whatnot. There’s none of that.

I mean, this is the purest apple you’re ever going to eat in your life.

And there were some sort of enzymes and things they add to food, so like your friend said, it will digest immediately into the system, and you won’t have as much digestive problems and things like that. That is absolutely true.

David: Let me share another thing that Jacob said that I think is interesting to add here.

His people in the Secret Space Program were worried that we might become dependent on this super nutritious food.

They looked at the physiologies of certain ETs, like some of the Grey types, and it’s literally like an esophagus that goes right to the anus. It’s just like a tube, a straight shot, no intestines, no stomach.

And they were worried that perhaps if we don’t use food the old-fashioned way, that our systems are not going to be able to survive anymore unless we have this type of food. Could you comment on that?

Emery: Yes, I can. I believe what’s happening here is the actual body really doesn’t need food if you can create the energy it needs, the cells and the genetic disposition of your nucleolus and of all the cells in the body.

And that’s why some people can go years without eating. They have mastered that energy.

With a lot of the ETs we’ve seen from the far future, they barely have a mouth. They barely have a nose. And the reason is: over time we will not be eating any more. It’ll just be something you do for fun on the side to do that. It’ll be just like a social thing, because all the energy that your cells need, you can teletransport into your body.

We’re starting to do that now with chemicals, with IVs, with vitamin IVs, all these things.

So I do believe it’s going to go to a route where we won’t have to eat any more. And that being said, the body, over millions of years, will adapt, and some of the organs will not be needed because the foods will be so pure you don’t need your liver and pancreas to add enzymes, and your gallbladder to break down the food because it already has it in the nutritional value of the preprinted food.

David: Were you ever able to have contact with the outside world once you got in there? Or, obviously, they’re not going to give you a telephone or anything.

Emery: No.

David: So you’re . . .

Emery: It’s heavily monitored. Even the Internet, there’s no cameras, so you can’t do a FaceTime or something like that.

You have to understand, back then a lot of this stuff really wasn’t out there like you guys have now. It was really . . . Early ’90s it was just at its beginning stages with the computers and stuff.

But you had ways to go on and watch things, listen to things, but mostly just for entertainment. You were not allowed to communicate with anyone. You were not allowed to have a mobile phone.

Back then I didn’t have a mobile phone. We had beepers.

And no electronics you were allowed to bring.

David: It sounds really like a wonderful place, and I’m curious if you could request to stay there if there wasn’t a lockdown.

Could you get to a certain level of clearance where they’d allow you to do that?

Emery: I’m not aware of in my facility of anyone being allowed to stay there just because. There would have to be an event that they asked you to stay, or something went wrong where they had a lockdown.

There is not a . . . I wasn’t authorized to just say, “Hey, I want to stay a month here and hang out.” No, not at all.

David: What was the longest time that you got to spend on lockdown, because it sounds like it’s not really a bad thing.

Emery: I was there almost a week, about six days, . . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . on one lockdown. And it was just . . . Because of lockdown, my area was damaged. So I actually wanted to work overtime and extra time to get caught up for . . .

Sometimes there are deadlines to get things done, and I was working on a really interesting project, so I wanted to stay. I wanted to get it done. I had no problem staying the extra time.

I didn’t really have too many friends and family. This WAS my life. This is how I lived.

And by doing that, it also shows that you’re really willing to help and be there.

Sometimes they give you a choice. “You have a choice. You can stay and finish the project, or you can at least work eight, and then you can leave and come back, but please come back.”

I didn’t want to do that because I could work an easy 12, 14 hours and not be tired because the air quality is great. The water is fourth-state-of-water. The food is highly nutritional.

And it was just like you said. It WAS a place that was interesting, and for me, exciting to be part of such an amazing thing.

And every time I ever went back to work I learned something new. I would learn things about the new races. I would be able to overstay my time in the library, which was really important to me.

David: Was there ever a case of a lockdown where everybody was genuinely terrified, and some knowledge of what was going on did seep through? Or was it always just, “Oh, we’re on lockdown again. I don’t know what this is. And that’s it.”

Emery: No, there were a couple of times like that. It was kind of frightening when a major lockdown happens and you don’t get to know what’s going on. And then you have to stay a night, just like one night.

And then usually you find out why it happened, or they’ll just send in a disinformation campaign and say, “Oh, there was a fire” or something. It’s something so generic you know they’re lying to you.

But that’s the excuse “to help you relax and wait for the fire to go out,” we’ll say.

And a lot of these things, . . . we didn’t know what happened. Usually if you stay on the projects long enough, you’ll find out like nine months later or a year later, “Oh, that’s why we were on lockdown back in January for two days. Wow! Someone left with a virus or something, and they had to cleanse that whole wing.”

And when I say “cleanse”, it’s not good, because whoever’s in that wing has to be terminated.

David: Well, this is extremely fascinating. And I’m sure, like many people watching this, I hope I get to see stuff like this one day if we do get any type of real disclosure. What an incredible journey that will be for us as a civilization to start to get to use technology like this.

Emery: Absolutely. I would love to take you in there.

David: Well, maybe we’ll figure it out.

I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with our special guest Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Bigfoot and Tall Whites

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and we’re here with our special guest, Emery Smith, continuing our fascinating discussion about the co-workers that he actually interacted with as live beings while in the underground facilities.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Excited to be here.

David: What was the very first extraterrestrial that you saw on these bases, like the first time you actually saw a living being that was not human like us?

Emery: That’s the Tall Whites.

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David: Ah, okay.

Emery: Yeah, absolutely.

David: So could you tell us a little bit more about that first meeting? Because, obviously, I would think the very first time you actually see a living being that’s clearly not one of us, it has to be just an absolute landmark moment in your entire life.

Emery: Well, actually, indirectly, by seeing these from afar, and seeing these through different windows and different programs, and then reading about them, I had a really good understanding of what was going on way before I was even getting able to see these, by researching programs that I was allowed to.

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David: Oh.

Emery: So they’re breaking you in first just by watching videos and reading books and reading things on their database system that have to do with the past of working with these beings and these creatures.

David: So let’s open up this Tall White discussion, because there has been some confusion in terms of, for example, certain discrepancies between the whistleblower named Charles Hall, and what he called Tall Whites, whose eyes seemed to be more like Greys, but had a bluish tinge.

We have Pete Peterson who’s described his experience with Tall Whites, and he said that it doesn’t really mean any one type. It just is a classification based on their appearance.

Emery: Correct.

David: And Corey has his experiences with the Anshar, which appear to be very much more human-like, but as they age, they will get taller eventually.

So what would you call Tall Whites? Just give us a description of what they look like, and any other specific physical identifying details to start with.

Emery: Sure. They’re over 7′ tall. They have a small face, a little bit smaller than ours. They’re very slender in the arms – very ectomorphic as we would say.

They have a very fluid movement that’s actually like a dance. So it’s kind of like this: when they move, they’re articulating their joints, and their limbs are flexible, not like ours, which are really rigid.

They also have a very deep understanding of all of our belief systems, and they’re very compassionate, and they’re very smart.

And I’ve seen them from afar probably six to seven months before I was actually next to a few of them during a project.

David: So if I gather correctly, then, the face would be predominantly like ours, but just smaller?

Emery: It’s slender. You know, I hate to bring up movies, but in the Star Wars movies, there was a group of Tall White beings that were making clones of one of the soldiers there, and they were in charge of this planet, and they had this really slender, beautiful, oval face with these really beautiful eyes that took most of the face up.

So the eyes were at least two times to three times larger than our own eyes, and their nose was almost non-existent – very small, very petite, kind of like an Asian nose – with just very small nostrils and beautiful lips and a nice small mouth.

David: So the eyes are a very prominent features, then . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . but they would be almost like one of these Anime characters in the sense that it still looks human, . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . but they’re just a lot larger.

Emery: Exactly. The eyes are oval, and they’re offset about 20°, so they are like this.

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Ours are this way [horizontal], but theirs are offset just a hair, so it’s coming this way, because the ovals . . .

David: So more of a Russian or Scandinavian look, then?

Emery: Correct.

David: Okay.

Emery: And when I refer to the Tall Whites, I am not referring to the blond blue-eyed tall people from Scandinavia that you hear a lot in pop culture of . . . of those.

David: Like the so-called Nordics.

Emery: Correct, the Nordics. I mean, their skin is just ash white. It is so white that they actually . . . light comes off of them and reflects off of them.

It’s a really beautiful type of skin . . . [There’s] kind of like a sheen to it. But [they’re] very white, and [have] very long fingers and regular feet like we have.

David: Are they bald?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: There is no hair. I’ve never seen hair on any of them.

David: Really?

Emery: They do wear clothes and uniforms like we do, usually skin-tight types of clothing.

They have a very intricate internal organ system that is capable of living on almost any planet or any atmosphere.

So they can breathe a lot of different types of gaseous chemicals, and different types gases that would normally kill one of us.

And they have a very small chest in a V shape.

David: So it definitely doesn’t look like a Grey.

Emery: No.

David: It would be like a bald person, like us, with white skin, but a more skinny-looking face who’s just really tall.

Emery: Yeah. Right.

David: One of the things that Pete described about these beings was that they would have a wand.

Did you ever notice them carrying a want . . .

Emery: No, I never , , ,

David: . . . or any type of tools?

Emery: I never seen them have a wand, but they did wear these special bracelets and these special collar-type things.

And I don’t know if it has something to do with their internal organ system, but I wasn’t really debriefed that much. That’s all they told me.

David: Okay. Did you have any idea as to what those bracelets or collars might function for?

Emery: Well, they had lights on them, and these lights were like a blue ribbon around the center of the collar.

So let’s say the collar was about an inch thick – I mean, an inch wide [25.4mm] – very thin, and in the middle of that collar, about a . . . maybe a quarter of an inch, was a stripe that went around it.

And this light rotated around this blue centerpiece, and it was always on, and it always coincided with the bracelets they had on.

David: They rotated in phase?

Emery: The light . . . Yeah, they both rotated in the exact same phase.

David: Hm.

Emery: Yeah.

David: So did you ever have an intuitive sense, or did you try to guess as to what that might be for?

Emery: I think it has something to do with . . . maybe, when they travel to different places, this helps with getting certain nutrients and chemicals and minerals and vitamins into their body somehow.

I think it’s somehow keeping their voltage up and keeping them energized.

David: The version of Tall Whites that Pete was talking about, which may not be the same, he said that they really have trouble getting too close to humans like us, that it’s almost a psychic mess for them.

Did you observe them in some degree wanting to keep distance from regular Earth humans?

Emery: Not these Tall Whites, but, yes, there have been other hybrid Whites that are over-sensitized by our fields of energy, because they’re picking up on every cellular energy we have.

It’s not like we’re all in one sync to this other white race of ETs, and I think it has to do with . . . We carry a lot of bacteria – good bacteria and bad bacteria – and viruses on us, and they all give off this special pulse of energy, and it’s overwhelming for them.

And they can actually get sick by being around a human too much.

David: So I’ve heard.

Emery: So I think that’s what he’s referring to.

David: Describe for me the first time that you encountered a Tall White, because this is where we’re saying now, like you saw him through the window, . . .

Emery: Right, seen them.

David: . . . you might have had some briefings or something . . .

Emery: Yes. Yeah.

David: . . . but the first time that you actually are face to face with a non-terrestrial entity.

Emery: They were brought in on a number of occasions, working on humans that have deceased for unknown – I don’t know why – unknown reasons.

David: Earth humans?

Emery: Earth humans.

David: Okay.

Emery: But they obviously were very concerned about this, and they would be brought in and worked with the team.

And I had two of them at one time in the same room that I was working on taking some samples from somebody.

David: Was it easy to tell the difference between men and women?

Emery: Ah, yeah. There was a feminine . . . more slender facial features, and the eyes were a little bit not as large, and the eyebrows also, not eyebrows, but you can see there’s a tinge of an eyebrow, but not hair. It was just like the pigment was different above the eyes, a little bit off white, I’ll say.

And you could tell by those two reasons, just facial features.

The bodies looked pretty much identical.

And I’d never seen them walk around. They always had some sort of clothing on or something.

David: And what did that clothing look like?

Emery: It was always some sort of skin-tight apparel, like a Spandex of some sort.

They always did have gloves on all the time. So this clothing material was covering pretty much their whole body except their neck and face.

David: I’m curious about what was their form of communication. Did they speak with their mouths?

Emery: They’re very telepathic. They can speak perfect English and other languages – all the languages actually – but you don’t have to because they will just look at you.

And they say, “When you have the look, please look back”, because it’s this eye thing that they do.

When you see their eyes and your eyes, it’s like a link of some sort, where it’s like the . . . . however it works, it’s downloaded – everything that they’re thinking – to you, and they’re very receptive to you as well. Like, they know everything about you once you meet them.

David: So if you were to have an unloving or judgmental thought about the way they look . . . because I’m sure this happens sometimes.

Emery: It definitely happens.

David: What would occur? Like, let’s just walk though a situation where . . .

Emery: Yeah, they don’t . . . They don’t react to that, because they know that sometimes it takes a little time for people to get used to them because they’re different, and the same thing, I think, would happen to us if we were thrown into their world.

We would have to be really egoless and have to accept that maybe I won’t be liked because of the way I looked, or because I know everything that you’re thinking right now, which is okay. It’s so what, and then what?

David: So I really do want to get a little more specific on the exact moment that you first made eye contact with a non-terrestrial being. Where were you? What was it like that first moment you looked into its eyes?

Emery: We were getting dressed with our suits to go into an operating room. And their suits are a lot different than our suits, of course. Theirs are for their bodies.

And I just noticed as the technicians were helping them get dressed and Ziploc their suits up, the fluid motion they had of going into the suit.

It was very fluid, and being at the operating table, and I was helping them with some instruments, and they moved so fluidly, and so . . . but it’s really fast. They move fast, but it’s just this dance. It’s really interesting.

So I don’t want you to think it’s like super slow, but it was the fluidness of . . . You know, their bodies are, like I said, . . . their bones are very flexible, unlike our bones.

But they do have the five fingers and the hands. They’re just longer fingers, and the palms are more square, not round like ours. And those are some of the features that I knew.

And I remember looking at them, not even saying anything, and it was like a greeting. It was like as we’re getting ready to go in, and we looked at each other, and just the word, “greeting”, came to me.

It wasn’t a voice. It was just the word, “Greetings”.

And I remember, in my mind, looking at them and saying the same thing in my mind, and they cracked a smile.

You know, I could see . . . They have the same facial features. So their eyes move up and down. They can move their nose, and they have muscles in their face.

David: Could they throw things into your mind, like colors, symbols, visual images of places . . .

Emery: Absolutely.

David: . . . give you a holographic type of . . .

Emery: Yes. They even have a way, if they want to teach you something that you don’t know, to basically download that into your brain – into your consciousness – in a matter of seconds.

So you could learn something pretty quick that they’re doing on the table from being just across the table from them.

David: When you were working with them in these autopsies, you had mentioned that sometimes they were concerned about humans from here who had died in strange ways.

What were some of the other circumstances that they were called in?

Emery: Really tough cases where there might have not . . . that they would not know why this ET or this human died.

David: “They” meaning the people on the base.

Emery: The people on the base would give them, probably, the most difficult cases.

David: To the Tall Whites?

Emery: Yeah, to the Tall Whites. And sometimes they would not allow us in the rooms with those types of patients, but we were part of a team.

You have to understand, even though you’re not in the room, you still can be working on the outside of the room looking in and helping get supplies and things.

David: Can you recall a specific example of an autopsy that was not of a person from Earth that involved a Tall White, and just tell us what type of being it was and why was it so hard to solve?

Emery: Well, this falls under the chemical thing again. We do get beings that come in – other hybrid Whites that look shorter. They’re about our height, our size, but they’re very, very white, and they have crystal-clear blue eyes.

They always have white or blond hair, so . . . and they have ears, unlike . . . The Tall Whites don’t really have ears, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . but the human-hybrid Whites, I call them, actually do have ears, and they look kind of like us. And their teeth are very different. Their teeth are round.

So they’re like half-mooned, not square like ours.

David: Wow!

Emery: And it is weird. But you don’t really see their teeth too much.

And we were working on this one that was brought in that had these . . . it looks like burned injection spots that ran up and down their chest. And there were about six little holes – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 – all the way down to the belly button.

And it looked like it was some sort of weapon that burned it into their skin. But in the middle of these circular burns were three dots that looked like a triangle, if you could attach lines to them, a perfect triangle.

David: Okay.

Emery: And they were trying to figure out what type of weapon killed this hybrid White, and why and where did it happen. Like they can actually attach themselves to the brain of a dead being and download its information to their head, . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . and they can find out, “How did this happen? Where did it happen? Who’s responsible?” and figure out a whole story within minutes.

David: Wow! So what was the conclusion? Were you aware of the conclusion of how it died?

Emery: No, I was not aware, but they did know what happened, and they did look very sad about this. You can see the anguish on their face.

David: When you saw a movie like “Men In Black”, what was your feeling about that, where you have Will Smith, and there are agents working in these underground facilities with all these extraterrestrial around? What was your feeling when you saw that film?

Emery: I’m really not a big fan of that. I don’t like when Hollywood makes fun of extraterrestrials as some sort of game or some sort of horrible threat.

David: Right.

Emery: And I did not resonate with that movie at all. But there are many movies out there, and animation, where extraterrestrials are portrayed very well, such as the one that you and I saw recently, called . . . was it “Valerian”?

David: Yeah, “Valerian”.

Emery: Yeah, and these ETs looked exactly like these Tall Whites.

David: Wow!

Emery: And I remember . . . Wasn’t there a part in there where the United Nations of ETs were coming together, and there were all different kinds?

David: That’s right – right at the beginning.

Emery: Yeah, that was a very accurate depiction of the many different kinds of extraterrestrials that are out there that have to bring their own environment. Like one was like a fish or something. It had an aquarium on his head.

David: That’s right.

Emery: And, of course, that’s kind of funny, but it actually is true. Like we talk about ETs wearing things that are from either their planet to keep the energy correct, and also they might have to have a special helmet just for their head to sustain their life.

So that was a really good . . . I was impressed with the screenwriters and the writers and the animators that did that.

David: Now, Corey Goode, when he had his first experience on the Moon in modern times, so he says, encountered an avian type of humanoid that apparently nobody in the space program had seen before.

And this is the Blue Avian. We talked about this. I know you’ve seen the image.

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Emery: Yeah, I’ve seen this image.

David: So did you ever see any type of Avian humanoids yourself, such as these Blue Avians, or other types that were similar?

Emery: Yeah, similar to that, but not specifically like that. They were very human-like, and they had very small feathers and large skin pores, but they, for the most part, looked more human than they did a bird.

But they did have these attributes of certain things, like they didn’t have a nose. They did have, like, a small beak there, but the beak actually had teeth in it.

And they didn’t have the kind of head you would see . . . It wasn’t like an exact bird head. And the eyes were flat across, just like ours, but they could see perfectly straight this way, instead of . . . like a bird probably has more on the outside.

So very more, like I said, more human than anything, but had very small wing feather . . . like little skin flaps under their arms, and lots of feathers on the back, but not so much on the face and the chest at all.

David: Did any of them have tropical colors like a toucan, or how did they look?

Emery: Yeah, they did. There were turquoise ones with a beautiful purple, white and turquoise fading, in and out, up and down the body. So it might start with a blue head and neck, and then fade to white, and then maybe a light purple down towards the feet.

But they had feet like we have feet, but it was, you know . . .

David: They didn’t look like bird feet?

Emery: No, not at all. But like I said, the only thing that gave it away was the facial features and the feathers, and that very scaly-type skin – a very porous skin.

David: Well, this is kind of ridiculous, but how would you compare it to Howard the Duck?

Emery: No! Ha, ha. Not like that.

David: Because that’s a beak that really protrudes.

Emery: That’s a big duck bill beak.

David: Yeah.

Emery: But no, I’ve never seen anything like a big beak like that, except for the pterodactyl.

David: Pterodactyl being sounds kind of disturbing.

Emery: It does look probably scary to most people because it’s got these dragon attributes of these wings with hands, but it has legs just like we do – very thin legs, kind of like the Ant people.

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And they have very small wings that are attached like a fruit bat. The arms are part of the wings.

And they always have a device with them. And this one was carrying a cylindrical device in its arm, like this, with its claw around it.

And this one, this pterodactyl being, had an actual claw. It had the long, pointy beak that came all the way back – you know, the one that has . . . The actual bone structure actually goes farther back.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And they communicate through a series of loud, high-pitched tones, not like an owl, not like a bird chirping, but just high-pitched tonality.

David: Did you ever see any of these pterodactyl beings while you were in the underground bases?

Emery: Yes.

David: You did?

Emery: On the very deep, deep levels of these bases, we were informed that they were there.

And they had to do with some sort of consciousness, and . . . I want to say religion, but it’s not. It’s a study of some sort of history long and forgotten.

And they are sent in to . . . They’re like the people who put the puzzles together, these beings, and they can move things with their mind. They have telekinetic energies, and they can move small things around the rooms.

And there might be anywhere from one to four of these beings looking at something and moving things around in these “think tank rooms”, they call them.

David: Why do you think they were kept at the bottom of the base?

Emery: I believe that, . . . because of the way they look, because they do look like a type of flying dragon.

And I think because they don’t do well with being around a lot of other extraterrestrials for some reason.

They seem to need a lot of space when they move around. So there’s areas . . . They just can’t walk through a door, leastwise they’re very abstract, bulky-looking. And, you know, just turning their head, they could . . . these things can be . . . Just their heads along could be up to 3’~4′ long.

David: Wow!

Emery: And just by turning their head, they can knock a lot of stuff over. So there’s a special place down there for them that they are allowed to do these . . . which I don’t know what the programs are. I just know they’re the thought-thinkers. They’re “the puzzle-solvers”, they call them.

David: I want to run something by you that I’ve heard from some other insiders.

Some of what I’ve heard – and this is actually from more than one guy . . . has told me this – certain ET groups apparently were worried about a reptilian-sentient life on Earth becoming really dominant and aggressive to other species.

And the 65 million-year-old cataclysm that hit the Earth apparently was intended to wipe them out. And it was at that time that the Moon, which apparently is a used car – and I talked about this with William Tompkins – was then parked around the Earth to create a seasonal climate that would allow mammalian life rather than reptilian life to become dominant.

I wonder if you ever heard about that scenario of the dinosaur catastrophe being a planned event to wipe out sentient reptilians?

Emery: I have heard of “a event” that was intentional to destroy the Earth because Reptilians were not allowed on it anymore, because of Inner Earth beings, and also dates back to Atlantis and Lemuria and whatnot, that there was this war of some sort, that they were being utilized and used by these Reptilians, the Draco, or whatever you call them.

And that’s what I read in some of the history books in there, but I don’t know how accurate that is because it was written not as a document. It was like someone was just telling you what happened back then.

And there has been archaeological finds in the Vatican from this time that depicts Reptilian beings destroying Aquafarians and other beings of that time.

So I think it’s a high probable cause to put two and two together to say, “Yeah, I would agree with that.”

David: I’m curious about whether you ever saw something that would look like the Yeti or the Bigfoot while you were working in these facilities, because some people have reported things like that.

Emery: Yeah, I mean, I have personal experience with the Bigfoot, and the skunk apes, and the Yetis, and all the different types of . . .

I remember in my teen years, around 16 years of age, there was a large white Chewbacca-type being, 8’~9′ tall, and I was camping out in Florida down in the south, near the Everglades.

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And it was probably around 150 yards away. It was far, but it was an open field. It was at dawn.

And I just saw this being walking next to the fence line. And it was like 5′ higher than the fence posts, which were 4′ tall.

And the stride of this thing was, like, over 6′. And I literally stopped in my tracks and watched this thing walk all the way across.

And when I go back and check the dates, now that there are these things online – you can look for spottings of these extraterrestrials – I’ve noticed that in the area I was, this being has been seen many, many times by many people, and that was a great confirmation for me.

It was greater confirmation for me when I started working in the labs to actually see these beings.

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These beings have been here a very long time. They work with the Inner Earth beings. They’re here to collect and gather data and DNA from all the living species and plants and water and animals in the water and fish and everything.

And they’re cataloging this and putting it on a type of vault somewhere in order to preserve what Earth really is – kind of a museum for Earth somewhere.

And that’s why you can never get these guys on film too much, because they have the ability to teletransport themselves at will.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. And they can be very mysterious and get out of somewhere really quick.

David: Well, I just want to say this: It is amazing that we don’t have a widespread understanding of the reality of Bigfoot given the thousands and thousands of eyewitness sightings, the tracings of footprints, the very bizarre cases of property damage, where fingernail marks have clawed right through vehicles, and things like this.

Why do you think we have such a hard time accepting these eyewitness testimonies of Bigfoot?

Emery: Well, you know, these are very large animals. I don’t consider them too much human, I’ll say. But they have a consciousness and they have a job to do.

And they’re probably the lowest-maintenance extraterrestrial that I know.

And what that means is: they can be dropped on a planet with nothing and gather these items and catalog them and store them somewhere, and then, like the movie “Predator”, where they come down and hunt people and then take all their skulls back.

So imagine this guy is coming down and snatching up a bunch of lavender and daisies. Ha, ha.

David: So they’re not doing anything violent?

Emery: No.

David: Okay.

Emery: No, they’re not allowed to. They’re actually prohibited from hurting any type of living creature.

David: Wow!

Emery: So they could take your hair, but they can’t take your head.

David: So what you’re describing here sounds like a fairly intelligent being. Do they have communication skills? Could they speak, or do they have a telepathic . . .

Emery: Yeah, they’re the other ones that use their vocal chords to voice, and also they can do, like, . . . Elephants have this ability to send these large thumps through the ground, and these things can be heard for miles and miles and miles and miles away by another elephant.

So they have that ability, and that’s why people hear really weird shrieks. They hear really weird thumping sounds.

People usually say it’s someone banging on a tree or something, you know, and not so much that.

And they can communicate that way too if they, let’s say, have a sore belly and they can’t use their diaphragm to make these noises.

David: There do seem to be different types of Bigfoot. And so since we’re out of time now, I just want to round this out with: Do you think that there might be some that are not necessarily on this mission and are less intelligent and more primal and dangerous?

Emery: I’ve read some documents in my classified, compartmentalized projects that stated that they have . . . If they get sick or something happens to them, they cannot use their teletransportation abilities, and they get lost or left behind on many planets, and they have to stay there indefinitely.

And these are some of the lost ones that are hiding in the . . . But they’re very adaptable, and they like to work alone. They’re very solitude-type extraterrestrials that I heard only mate maybe once a lifetime.

David: If they were going to teletransport back to where they came from, where would that be? Do you know anything about their origins?

Emery: No, I don’t know anything about their origins, but I know they know . . . They have an indistinctive way to trace portals on the Earth, like natural portals on the Earth, not man-made portals, that they know where to go, and they might travel vast distances to do that.

But they will never go through a city, or they’re not allowed to interact with the beings from any planet.

David: Last question, real quick: Did you see them in the underground bases? Was there some loophole where they could actually work with us in these classified facilities?

Emery: I’ve only seen dead ones.

David: Oh, really? So they didn’t actually work in these underground bases with the rest of us?

Emery: They said . . . There’s some rumors that they have. And I have seen things from far away that look like them.

And there are catalogs of them being on the base, but I have not worked physically with one.

David: Okay, cool.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Well, Emery, this is really fascinating. I want to thank you for coming out and giving us all this amazing information.

Emery: Thanks.

David: And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with our special guest, Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Reptilians and Aquafarians

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here again with our guest, Emery Smith, with deeper insights into his extraterrestrial coworkers.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave.

David: This is one of the most fascinating topics of your testimony as far as I’m concerned, because it’s one thing to have a specimen that’s dead. And, as you said before, you didn’t know whether these were really extraterrestrials or not, right?

Emery: No, I had no clue.

David: What could be an example of something where you KNEW that it was an extraterrestrial? Were there any cases where it was certain that it was not a genetically-modified being?

Emery: Yes. I mean, after a few years in the projects and your clearance gets up and you’re getting briefed on different scenarios and different types of extraterrestrials where they’re saying they’re extraterrestrials or beings from other than Earth origin, and also getting access to the most amazing libraries of encyclopedias that they have there – it’s all on computer mainframes – you get to really understand that we’re just a small, small part of such a wide and vast array of other beings that are spread out through the universe and multiverse.

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David: So if we could take off in a ship and start going to other star systems, how common would it be to find planets with inhabited intelligent life on them? Is it seldom the case? Is it sort of half and half? Is it mostly the case, or is it almost always the case that a given solar system will have some intelligent beings living in it?

Emery: The best way I could put that is: if I were to ask you if you jumped into the ocean, how many different species would you find amongst just jumping into one ocean?

David: Hm.

Emery: So it’s that vast and there’s that many beings. There’s an unimaginable amount of beings of different races.

David: So you could then say that pretty much any star system we would go to, unless there were really conditions or something, is going to have beings that have set up shop there and have civilizations?

Emery: Exactly. This is what people don’t understand, because beings don’t need a planet to survive on.

They’ve already mastered to make their own planets and their own space stations to live on.

And there are some beings that never touch a planet but they travel around, of course, because their own craft or ships that are hundreds of miles in diameter can actually reproduce living conditions such as a planet, such as an ocean, such as an island, such as growing food.

David: When we were talking about your extraterrestrial coworkers before, you had mentioned this probably more benevolent Reptilian race. You’d mentioned they were in a constellation called Bootes.

Could we discuss a little more about that? Like, if we went to their star system, what would we see?

Emery: Well, you would see a lot of traffic, number one, in this area, because there’s just a lot of races that live in this sector of space.

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But the one I was talking about has a type of Death Star look to it. It’s man-made, and they have craft on these space stations that look like meteorites.

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And they can be up to 30 miles long, some of these.

David: Wow!

Emery: And they can be also as small as a compact 24′ U-Haul truck.

They have a lot of families there. They raise their children on these things. They get educated there. They graduate just in a few years of life and have a higher IQ than we do, just in two or three years, these children.

They also have a faster healing rate than we do. And we’re trying to study that healing rate from the Reptilians.

Maybe you’ve seen some of the pictures on my website of me taking the blood from alligators.

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This was a direct correlation of what we were doing to test: why can an alligator in the Everglades sustain a huge wound of another alligator ripping its leg off? And then in just a matter of weeks, not only did it coagulate just fine, but it also had no infection and sometimes grows back.

So some of the projects I worked on was actually doing this: is trying to replicate the healing factors of the genetic DNA of these Reptilians.

David: I find it very interesting: when we look at Indian history in the Mahabharata and the Vedas that we have what appears to be an evil Reptilian race called Rakshasas, but that there also was a benevolent Reptilian race called Nagas that they actually ended up making temples out of.

Emery: Right.

David: And you actually see lots and lots of stone inscriptions of what looks like humans, but then they have like a Reptilian tail like a snake.

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So do you think that these benevolent Reptilian ETs that you were talking about could have been there at the time of the Indian civilization where those texts were written?

Emery: Yeah, I 100% believe that. I know all the texts you’re talking about. I know of the statues that you’re talking about. I know of the amulets they made of them and some of the carvings down there.

So I agree that these Reptilians I’m associated with that I know are this . . . a little bit more docile, hybrid-type, human-type figures, and they were looked up [to] as gods.

David: Now, it’s also interesting because Pete Peterson did say that there was a benevolent Reptilian race as well. And he had told me that they were very keenly interested in our religious development, our spiritual development, that they were very wise, very advanced, and they really seemed to want us to become ethical and to learn how to all get along with each other.

Emery: Yea, I can concur with that. They do have a religious background that I don’t know everything about. But they’re very strong about it and they do carry amulets and jewelry that show their belief in this system.

They also have sometimes special clothing for certain holiday-type things that they may wear, such as a scarf or a ribbon on their arm.

And these things celebrate this religion that you speak of, which is the unity of all and one that they believe in.

And they believe even though they’re of different genetic DNA, they also believe that everyone HAS their DNA.

And they believe in the system that they were kind of the first ones in the solar system and universe that actually seeded it. And over billions of years, other formations of their genetic lineage has mixed around and is actually where WE come from.

And that’s why you see sometimes in the medical society of people saying, “Well, we have the reptile part of the brain and this because we’re associated with an iguana or something.

So it’s very funny that this is all coming out in the questions that you ask because I do believe there’s a correlation with this race, and we might have a little bit of that DNA in us to some extent.

David: I’m just curious if you ever heard about this benevolent Reptilian race talking about the Draco and the very antagonistic other types of Reptilians that apparently just about everybody was opposing.

Because the Draco seemed to be this group that’s trying to invade and conquer just about every other civilization they can find.

Emery: I’ve never heard them speak about that. I’ve never seen any data to support that from their lineage.

They do have their own belief of where they came from as far as the very first Reptilians, which I do believe probably could have come from the more Draco style, evil type Reptilians that people talk about.

But I can’t really say, honestly. I’m just speculating on that.

David: Well, this is a very interesting point because Pete Peterson did say that there was a Reptilian diaspora.

A diaspora is when essentially one group that is a spiritually-inclined group breaks off from another group because they believe that group has become evil.

Emery: Uh huh.

David: Pete said that these benevolent Reptilians that he spoke about had had a diaspora from a negative Reptilian group in the past.

Emery: Hm.

David: Very interesting.

Emery: VERY interesting.

David: And perhaps the fact that they might have been hybridized with humans means that maybe they would have more compassion for us.

Emery: Right. Yeah, I believe that lineage carries over through DNA.

David: Yeah, very interesting.

Emery: Very.

David: Let’s go back now to some of the other extraterrestrials that you’ve had as coworkers since that’s our main topic on this episode.

Emery: Sure.

David: Could you give me an example of one race that we haven’t spoken about yet that you can share with us now?

Emery: Yeah, I can go over a couple of races. I think maybe I should talk about the more liquid-state planets that are associated with ETs.

You know, everyone thinks ETs are all just of the 3D in this Earth-air atmosphere, and it’s not the case.

You have beings that have to live in water or come from a water planet. You have these types of beings that come from the Pleiades system, and we call them Aquafarians – some of the first of these extraterrestrials that live in water. They don’t need to, but their planet is 98% water.

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And they actually work in water. That’s where they feel comfortable.

David: And you said they came from Sirius?

Emery: No, Pleiades.

David: Oh, Pleiades.

Emery: The Pleiades System. Yes. The Aquafarian-type extraterrestrials they call them through my experience.

David: Well, this is very interesting because there is a correlation with a book by Robert Temple called “The Sirius Mystery” . . .

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. . . in which he studied this particular African tribe that comes from Mali, and they have this Aquafarian race – I’ll use your term – that approached them called the Nommo.

And they gained very precise information about the fact that Sirius had a little companion star called Sirius B. They had information about the planets that were around it, all this very specific stuff.

And they clearly . . . Their legends clearly describe these as aquatic-humanoid beings.

So this is a really interesting new line of inquiry then.

Emery: I mean, I have to comment. You know, a lot of our operating rooms and centers in the bases are definitely completely filled with salt water or fresh water . . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . just for this type of thing.

David: So you would actually do an autopsy in a self-contained suit . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . inside water?

Emery: Yes. Underwater and heavily weighted down with magnets that keep us on the ground.

David: Wow!

Emery: And we have all the sustainable air through the same hoses that I use above ground.

David: Sounds like it would be exhausting if you’re fighting against . . .

Emery: It is. It’s very taxing on the body for some reason. And I don’t know if it’s just because of being under water. It’s just even mentally taxing. The energy or something of the water.

It’s kind of like scuba diving where you can get tired pretty quick.

And you do seem to use a lot more oxygen under water, for some reason, when we are doing these giant autopsies and also looking at the craft.

Some craft have to be in a special salt soluble water for them to stay intact. Once they are turned off, they cannot hold their shape.

David: Would that imply that they could only portal from one ocean to another and they wouldn’t fly through space?

Emery: They can fly through space because they have their own gravitational field around them that encompasses the water.

David: Oh! Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: That’s bizarre. So let’s talk about these Pleiadian Aquafarians that you saw. I’d like to start with a visual description of what they look like.

Emery: Well, there are many types of water-type extraterrestrials. There are some that look like manatees, there are some that look like dolphins, and there are even some that do have a shape from the waist down that’s kind of scaly and has fins on the outer edges of these beings.

But from the chest up, they actually look pretty human.

David: Now, just to be clear, these are extraterrestrial live coworkers that you’re seeing on these bases, correct?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: And I think this is maybe where the mermaids come from. You know, I think this mythological background of the history of these sailors seeing these beings could possibly have had a base here on the planet.

And there’s a lot of cities that people are discovering, but the Cabal does not let people know this, that are underground, and it wasn’t because they were flooded. It’s because that’s where they really were – these cities – under the ocean. I’m sorry, under the ocean.

And that also proves the fact that these extraterrestrials lived here and they flourished here at some point in time.

And I know you know a lot about the history of the mermaids and some of the extraterrestrials over in Asia.

David: Sure.

Emery: I think they’re called . . . What’s the name?

David: Kappa, in Japan.

Emery: Right. Exactly.

David: Yeah, let’s talk about that for a second. It’s a very interesting thing . . .

Emery: Yes, please.

David: . . . which was research I learned in part from having had a Japanese girlfriend in college.

And I was already very interested in extraterrestrials by the time I was a senior and we had this relationship.

So I found out firsthand that they had considered it an absolute fact that you could not have your kids walk near bodies of water.

Emery: Oh, right, right, right.

David: And they still to this day have warning signs near the water . . .

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. . . warning about the Kappa, which is . . . the legends say is a Reptilian aquatic being, okay?

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And it comes out of the water and grabs kids and drags them into the water.

So these beings could speak their native Japanese language. They would make jokes. They were often very inappropriate and rude. They would make rude noises, rude gestures. And they were very sarcastic and arrogant.

Emery: Wow! Interesting.

David: So do you think these Kappa could be actual extraterrestrials that got here somehow?

Emery: I do believe there’s some sort of correlation with a lot of the stories over there.

These descendants from the Aquafarians, I think, are multiple as far as genetics and DNA. Just like we have a lot of different types of humans here, and over millions and millions of years, you know, we have spread across the universe, the same thing has happened with the Aquafarian people.

And they do come in these different forms like I have talked about.

David: So in your projects then, the term “Aquafarian” would be an umbrella term that could refer to many different types?

Emery: Exactly. Yes. It’s a multi-race under the phenotype of a water being.

David: Did you see any that had a cup in the top of their head like the Kappa?

Emery: No, I actually didn’t.

David: Okay.

Emery: I’ve not seen that at all, but they somehow are able to breathe air and also breathe the oxygen in the water.

And some do have gills like you would see in the movies on their backs and necks.

David: Okay.

Emery: And they’re multiphasic where they can walk out of water and breathe the air through their mouth.

And we’ve operated on some of these, and they have air bladders and they have different types of lungs – very interesting to see: four sets of lungs in a being that can filter just like you would see in the sharks and the gills of many modern day fish that we have here on the planet.

David: Now, you had said that some of these beings actually have a head that’s like a dolphin?

Emery: Yes. Just to really be more specific, if you can see a dolphin with two arms and two legs and standing upright and a very, very cylindrical body which stands out, not that big fin on the back, though . . .

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And they do have these little webbed-type feet, but they have arms. And the arms have two different phalanges, you know, two fingers on there.

And the face does not have a snout like a bottle-nosed dolphin or anything like that. But they have a VERY LARGE mouth. And it does come out – just a little bit of a snout – but not like you would see on our modern day dolphins and porpoises.

But the mouth goes all the way to the sides of the face.

David: Oh, wow! That would be a little disturbing to see, perhaps.

Emery: Yeah, it’s a little, but they don’t ever open that mouth. You never see that mouth. And they have lips like a grouper fish.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And they’re kind of funny looking, actually. No offense, guys. [Emery looks up.] But they do look kind of comical looking like you’d see on a cartoon character.

And they only communicate through telepathic waves and through frequency. And you can hear those sounds – the same sounds you hear with the whales that you probably hear in your meditation CDs.

David: Now, with the dolphin, the eyes are kind of way on the sides of the heads.

Emery: Yes.

David: So how do the eyes place on these faces?

Emery: Yes. So imagine a very round, bulbous head like a light bulb. And those eyes ARE on the side of the head, but they do have great vision. It’s still more forward than you see in our society of dolphins or whales where they are completely like a hammerhead – way out here.

David: Okay.

Emery: So they are forward-looking eyes.

David: Do they have any ears?

Emery: Just the slits, the holes, but no ear lobes or anything like that.

They have very small fins on their back, not like the big fins you would see on a dolphin or a shark today – maybe only 3”~4” of these little fins that go down their back; maybe five or six of them in the middle of the back only.

David: Now, you mentioned that their whole body is like a big cylinder.

Emery: It is very cylindrical.

David: Do they have just stubby little legs at the bottom?

Emery: They do. They have very stubby legs with these big fat feet. And they do have toes on their feet and they’re webbed.

And they have this webbing on the sides of their body like the other Aquafarians, which I think is an Aquafarian trait to have this very thin, all the way down their arms and their body. And sometimes you actually see it on the heads of different ones like the manatee ones.

And there is something there like that cuttlefish fin that goes all the way down to their feet.

David: Now, as far as the arms go . . . Obviously a typical dolphin just has flippers, but yet when we actually look at the skeleton inside the flipper, it actually looks like a hand.

Emery: It is. And they do have a humerus. They have the same bones we do.

And instead of you guys seeing like a skeleton of a whale where you guys see just that – bare hand. I mean, you could see this.

Even whales, if you look at their stuff, even their back, they have little leg bones inside their body that somehow over millions of years have receded into them.

But these are full skeletal arms and legs just like we have.

David: So if the legs are stubby, what are the arms like? Do they have more length on their arms?

Emery: Yes, they have more length than the legs. Absolutely.

David: Interesting.

Emery: Yeah, they’re not the fastest runners in the planet.

David: Ha, ha. But again, it kind of sounds to me as if there’s this humanizing intelligence that takes different types of life and will make it so that it has opposable thumbs and hands and . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: And it’s conscious.

Emery: I believe there is a conscious energy in the universe that, over time, affects other planets around the whole universe, and maybe multiverse, where it’s the same five star program.

David: Yeah.

Emery: I think it’s some sort of program.

David: Right. So could you . . . Do you have any information about where these dolphin beings came from? Did you ever work with them directly, one on one?

Emery: I’ve only indirectly worked with them. That means I’ve only seen them. And I’ve never been able to communicate with them because it’s a very special language, and you have to have a special device that interprets the frequencies of their chirps, their chirping.

David: Oh, really?

Emery: And it’s kind of like a Morse code but very, very fast.

David: Hm.

Emery: You could have a few dozen chirps in a second, but we don’t have the brain or the hearing capabilities to catch it, it’s so fast.

David: Wow!

Emery: But it’s, you know, a whole conversation that we would take maybe, . . . In one of these episodes, 30 minutes could be done in five minutes for them.

David: Wow! So do they feel like it’s really slow to talk to us? Is it boring for them?

Emery: Yes. Yes, and they have . . . a . . . three-times size of our brain.

David: Wow!

Emery: And they’re very conscious. And I feel bad for the dolphins and whales here because we should treat them like we treat these ETs.

Just because we can’t communicate with them doesn’t mean they’re not conscious or they’re stupid.

Maybe we are ignorant.

David: So you have no information about where they originated?

Emery: Oh, from Pleiades and Sirius section.

David: Oh, okay.

Emery: The Aquafarians started in the Pleiades and then migrated, I know, to Sirius section. I don’t know where in there, but I’m only telling you what I’ve read from the history of being in that library.

And I was fascinated, of course, with dolphins and whales. I have a really good connection with them.

I’ve done a lot of underwater photography and have a great bond with these fish and the mammals.

David: Could we now get into the manatee being that you mentioned a little more?

Emery: Yeah.

David: Tell us more exactly what it looks like visually. Let’s start with the face. We know what a manatee’s face looks like:

Emery: Yeah, it looks like . . .

David: . . . kind of like a walrus but without the tusks.

Emery: Yes, it does kind of look like that.

I used to make jokes by my dear departed Beowulf, my dog, that recently passed.

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He has this face . . . He’s a French mastiff, you know.

David: Yeah.

Emery: He’s a Dogue de Bordeaux, but it’s very human. And it’s more stout instead of having the big, . . . like a manatee has this big blubber snout with all the whiskers.

David: Yeah.

Emery: It’s more contracted, and the eyes are pitch black and they’re very close together on these beings.

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And they’re very obese looking.

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: And they have little hands that they really don’t use, kind of like a T-Rex.

David: Wow!

Emery: And it’s really funny. And they’re very comical.

David: When you say they look obese, would they have the rolls like we would see . . .

Emery: Yeah.

David: . . . with a very overweight person?

Emery: Yes, they have rolls.

David: Okay.

Emery: They have rolls. And they’re very strong beings. And they also have these short stubby legs, you know, maybe 24” up to where the knees go into [where] the body starts.

But they’re very tall, very large. They actually dwarfed over me at least by two feet.

And they had this personality of a very old scientist. “And they know everything.”

They have this thing about . . . Their main thing is history, about how they came to be the “enlightened Aquafarians”. They compete with the dolphins, and . . . It’s a very funny thing – just kind of like my dog does. He knows everything.

And I get this real humble feeling, but THEY can talk. They have vocal chords; they don’t chirp. They don’t have that other vocal . . . as the dolphins and other Aquafarians. They actually can speak.

And they speak in very deep tones and deep voices unlike any human you have ever heard. I wish I could replicate it, but I can’t.

David: So just some basics here, like what would their color be? What would the color of their skin be?

Emery: It’s just like you see the manatees here on the planet. They have a dullish gray, but it’s not weather-beaten like you see [with] our manatees.

And I’ve worked on many manatees. I’ve done stem cells on manatees down in Florida that got run over by boats with the propellers.

And they have a very . . . more smoother textured skin that has a sheen to it. And it’s a bluish gray.

And they do have whiskers on the sides of their face, kind of like a very small mustache.

David: You said that there’s little hands poking out from the top of their bodies.

Emery: Yes.

David: Do they have fingers and thumbs like us?

Emery: Yes, they have four fingers and a very small thumb that you can barely see – just a nub.

David: Hm.

Emery: And they can use them. I’ve never seen them hold anything, though. I’ve never seen them grabbing or holding, but they’re very agile. They can move around. They’re very fat and large.

And they communicate very well. And you could hear a deep voice around the corner and you know it’s one of these Aquafarians from this system.

David: And do you know where they’re from?

Emery: They’re also from the Pleiades system.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yes.

David: Do they wear any clothing?

Emery: Yes. They have suits that they wear that are formed over them through a special device.

Don’t forget, they can be in the water or out of the water, you know.

David: Okay.

Emery: They can hold their breath a very long time, but they don’t breathe the water like the other ones do, so everyone knows.

But they can definitely work under water for over an hour. I remember a few of them watching in one of the aquarium’s operating rooms, that they were treating one of their own for something. I don’t remember exactly what the story was behind that, but I just remember admiring them working on these beings under water with their little fingers. It was really cute.

David: Hm.

Emery: And I just wasn’t able to ever interact face-to-face like you and I. I was just indirectly part of a program where I was watching them, and people were teaching me about them.

David: Okay, last question, then we’re out of time here. You’ve mentioned getting kind of a telepathic, spiritual ecstasy hit from some of these extraterrestrials.

Now, these you said speak verbally, not telepathically. Do you still feel some sort of spiritual bliss by being around the manatee beings?

Emery: Yeah, there’s something about them. They can resonate an actual sound from them[selves] that humans cannot hear, but they can feel it. And it’s a really beautiful sensation.

It reminds me of when I hear a good song, and I’m starting to, like, you know, starting to feel it. And that’s what I feel when they’re around. It’s this low-tone thump inside you.

You can feel this from a very far distance form them. I mean, they were at least 30′, maybe 40′, from me. And I was outside of the tank.

And they’re sitting there doing this energy. It’s just energy; they’re not dancing . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . but it makes you feel like music. It’s like harmonic of some sort.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s really beautiful.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have in this episode. It’s very, very fascinating, and I do hope we get to meet these beings soon.

Do you think that will happen?

Emery: Oh, I know it’s going to happen.

David: Wow! That would be amazing.

Well, I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with our special guest Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: E.T. Coworkers

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and we are here with our guest, Emery Smith.

In this episode we’re going to be discussing extraterrestrial coworkers.

Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave, for having me.

David: I didn’t realize, actually, that you were, in some cases, working on these autopsies with people who were not of Earth origin.

So could you start to lay out for us under what circumstances you might have someone in the OR [operating room] with you who is a completely separate type of person than what we’re used to here on Earth?

Emery: First, I would like to start off by saying, not all extraterrestrials are 100% of not human genetic DNA.

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You might have an Arcturian that’s only 75% Arcturian and maybe 10% Pleiadian, and another . . . the residual of that, human.

So for the most part, most extraterrestrials actually have our same human DNA. It’s just that over millions of years they have been intertwining and getting new types of genetic formations by mixing different DNAs and different types of extraterrestrials.

David: So is the theory that there actual travels going on and interbreeding in ancient past?

Emery: Exactly. And the past also is the future. So you have to think that these extraterrestrials that are a few million years ahead of us, actually WERE us at one time.

So it’s actually some of our DNA is in there. Our children’s children’s children’s children’s DNA could be possibly part of the extraterrestrial that we are seeing today because they have already mastered time travel and portal travel and things like this.

So the time is . . . You can’t really say the time because time really doesn’t exist. But these extraterrestrials did have descendants that WERE from Earth.

David: Okay. So you mentioned an Arcturian who might also have some human genetics. If we saw this Arcturian, what would it look like?

Emery: Well, there’s many different types of Arcturians just like there’s many different types of humans on planet Earth.

David: Okay.

Emery: Some of the Arcturians that I worked with do look very human like, but they’re a lot more robust, and they’re larger. Some are 7′ to 8′ tall [2.13 m to 2.44 m].

David: Really?

Emery: Some are actually of really ancient descent, which their genetics have not changed over time, which they did not intermingle with other extraterrestrials.

And some of those actually looked like a rock formation, like that . . . one of those superheroes that’s made out of a rock you see on TV and . . .

David: Like in “The Fantastic Four”.

Emery: Like “The Fantastic Four”. And they don’t . . . They look like they’re hard and rock, but they’re not. They actually have a spongy-type feel to them, kind of like an actual sea sponge where it’s very porous material.

They are usually a gold or an orange-type color. And they are very robust with a large Cro-Magnon-type skull, which is a little bit . . . about twice the size of our heads and a lot, like I said, more robust looking.

And they have been spotted on the projects many times in many different ways.

And then there are Arcturians that are actually more human looking, which just have a very robust muscular looking body-builder type look to them, but a lot more Cro-Magnon as far as the skull features. And the bones are about three times as dense as a human’s.

David: Wow! So let’s take this discussion of the operating room a little farther.

For some reason when you and I talked about this years ago, I was under the impression that you just went in there by yourself. You did the autopsy by yourself. You had some people speaking to you through the intercom, and that was it.

But it doesn’t sound like that now based on some of the things we’ve been talking about.

Emery: The first year was like that, until I got higher classification and cl . . . and security clearance.

After that, I was brought into what they call “multi-level projects”, which means it’s not just me going in there harvesting a piece of tissue, but you’re actually harvesting many different kinds of tissue and also working with the being’s craft.

So these projects could have up to three teams of 15 scientists and physicians and technicians working on just one being and one craft.

David: Really?

Emery: And some of those scientists and physicians are actually of “un-Earth origin” – this is the term they use – which are extraterrestrials, which have volunteered, either after being captured or volunteered through the system, through the compartmentalized program, to work to actually help us, because they kind of actually feel bad sometimes, even after we capture them and beat the heck out of them and do horrible things to them.

They actually turn around and willingly want to help us and stay with us and teach them about their own physiological phenotypes, about their own race.

David: Would you say that these extraterrestrials are benevolent?

Emery: Yes. I would say they’re benevolent. I would say they’re a very humanitarian type of thought process. They’re a lot smarter than us.

They could actually at any time probably do damage to us or hurt us with their telekinesis and telepathic abilities, but they don’t.

David: So, there you are in an operating room, and you’re saying that in some of these cases you might have an extraterrestrial and a craft. And you’re working on both at the same time.

Emery: They usually keep the extraterrestrials and the craft separate. So you might have a bay not too far away, maybe within 300 meters, which is very close, by the way, because these things are SO spread out underground, you know, up to 10 miles in diameter some of these bases.

And you will have the being . . . The being is separate. And then you’ll have the craft in another bay.

These are all very clean areas, which I can describe in detail.

I might be actually assisting an extraterrestrial, helping complete the mission, whatever the mission is: gathering frequencies using devices, or gathering tissue samples, or running special tests of the bodies, which actually . . . They can scan the whole body and 3D print that body later on.

David: So could you give us some examples now of what kind of being might you actually see as a coworker in the operating room with you? Just start to go through . . .

Emery: Sure. Like, some of the first ones I want to go over are like the beings that are monkey-like human.

David: Okay.

Emery: And their pelvises are not spread out like a monkey, by the way. They all stand very erect like we do, but they have the formation of, you know, a monkey’s look, with longer hair and the face is more pronounced like a human without a snout. And . . .

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David: So it’s not necessarily like “Planet of the Apes”, . . .

Emery: No.

David: . . . but they’re still more of an ape-like appearance than us?

Emery: Very ape-like appearance but more human like, and not that much fur on the face, by the way, just around it and around the body.

And they speak very well. They have great vocal cords.

They have a problem, though, with high pitch sounds. So they have to wear special things in their ear when we work with them that actually tone down the sound of just our own voice.

And, of course, they pick up on different frequencies from electromagnetic fields and TVs and computers. There’s these high pitched sounds they give off that really distorts them and allows them to come actually ill if they don’t have these protective ear plugs in.

David: This is a bizarre thing, because one of the groups that Pete Peterson told me about was a simian group that he called Simulacs.

And in that case they had genetically modified their hands so that their fingers were actually these prehensile tail like things. They had done some genetic modification on themselves.

Emery: Yes, I’ve seen a lot of genetic modifications on humans and extraterrestrials for different projects that were not normal from their lineage.

And I did notice a couple of these in and out very rarely, but they do come about.

And, you know, we don’t get to – sometimes, of course – sit down and have lunch with these beings and talk unless we’re actually working closely with them.

But the people that look like these monkeys and apes that stand very erect also do not have that thumb that sticks out like on a gorilla. It actually can actually grasp stuff.

Their hands are also not large and bulky like you would see as an ape. That’s actually a thinner, longer fingers and a very broad palm – so great operating thumb.

David: Do we know where these ape-like people originated from? Did you get any briefings on their system or anything like that?

Emery: I believe these come from multiple systems, including Arcturus and Sirius and Spica – that area of space.

And because the genetic lineage of DNA that I was reading in the library at the time did pinpoint a lot of these ape-like human beings from these systems, that they all had similar genetics from each system.

So you might have one that’s mixed with other ET systems, but all the DNA was the same. I mean the same . . . meaning that they had all the same ape DNA, whether it be 30% or 90%.

David: Mm. So what is their agenda here?

Emery: Yeah, there’s obviously something going on behind the scenes that I’m not privy to know, but what I believe is that these beings that we either caught or captured or volunteered to come here that are working with either the government or the military or the Cabal on different occasions for different projects, are strictly humanitarian. And they don’t have any agenda at all.

And they could probably easily take out a lot of people if they really wanted to, but they don’t have that feeling.

Being next to one of these extraterrestrials, by the way, including the Ant people and the Mantis people, you have a really beautiful self feeling being in their energy fields.

And people have actually had miraculous healings by being on these craft and working on the craft and working just in the vicinity of an extraterrestrial.

David: How does THAT work?

Emery: I do not know how that works. I think it’s electromagnetic of some frequency that allows the body, their body, that already generates a very, very high vibration, . . . It actually brings our vibration up so our cells are running at a specific voltage so our own cells can heal ourself.

David: Interesting. Okay. So you also mentioned Ant people and Mantis people. So could you walk through for us what that would be like? You said it was enjoyable to be around them.

I think most people, without a lot of vetting and preparation, would be extremely frightened if they saw an adult human-sized insect that appeared to be intelligent standing in front of them.

Emery: Yes. I don’t have fear of any ETs, and I’ve seen some really gross disgusting looking things that people would probably just associate with pop culture or just, you know, things that we don’t like to see, such as . . . we have an inner emotion just by seeing the color red, blood, which is an emergency color for us.

And you have to understand that these ETs do not see just like we do in just our normal color spectrum. Some of these ETs see in variable, many variable colors, spectrums of light, which means they can see things we can’t see, even X-ray vision for some of them.

Some of them have special coatings on their eyes. Like some of the Reptilian forms have three different layers that they can put on their eyes to see in different light spectrums at will.

Some of the Ant people also have this amazing ability to see through things and to hear things that we can’t hear and to actually look into you and can tell if there’s something wrong with you, if you had a disease or whatnot.

David: Like X-ray vision.

Emery: Yeah, like X-ray vision, a kind of light spectrum that we’re not aware of yet here on Earth because all we have is the eyes of all the animals here that we’ve studied for our entire lifetime and humans. But it’s completely different.

Some of them actually have to wear goggles just to live here and to be here because the light is TOO much. It actually enhances light.

They come from places where there’s complete darkness for a human, . . . that we would not even see darker, dark as a black hole. But they can see things.

David: So let’s stop on the Ant people for a second.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Can you recall an example of an autopsy you were working on where you were assisted by an Ant person? And just walk us through what that was. What happened?

Emery: Well, the interesting thing about these autopsies, too, is you have to understand there’s different types of suits that we use, of course, for different types of races.

So an extraterrestrial Ant-person suit does not look like my suit that I work with in the operating room at all.

And these are self-contained atmospheres. And some of these extraterrestrials have to have a special atmosphere, or a vacuum, for them to actually work here on the planet.

And they also look a lot different than we do as far as the body. The Ant people have these very, very thin, but very strong, arms and legs.

And you’re looking at them because it’s basically 75% thinner than our own femurs, but yet incredibly more durable than our femurs.

And then you have the robust body that could be segmented or non-segmented depending on where they’re from.

And then you have the face. And a lot of people do comment on the face.

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They could have a double mouth or pincers on the face, and a lot of tentacles, and a lot of little things coming out of their face that kind of might look a little gruesome.

You might hear one speak. They have special voice box analyzers that come on their neck and in their ears, sometimes in their mouth, that translates into a human language, whether it be English or Russian. And they talk multiple languages though these things.

And it does sound not like our voices. It’s a little more higher pitch actually. And the screeching of that sometimes is upsetting to some people and could be maybe a little scary on your first visit [with] one of these extraterrestrials, especially when you see their mouths open and you can see all the layers inside, which is just a normal thing. It’s nothing.

They’re not trying to be negative, but we perceive it to be negative because it’s not a smile, that’s for sure.

David: Right. I remember Pete Peterson telling me about being at this Antarctic base where there were several types of ETs, including a Mantis type, and that when it would laugh, that it would put its head down because all the mandibles would . . . There were three on each side and they would open up.

And it was so disturbing for us that it learned to just put its head down when it laughed.

Emery: Yeah. What’s more disturbing is how we laugh to them.

David: Right.

Emery: One of the most hideous sounds I’ve ever heard, . . . you ever think about it and put yourself on their side and start laughing. What an interesting sound that may be for them, because it’s not a normal vocal vibration for sure.

David: Sure. Now Pete also had talked about . . . It’s really interesting how similar this all sounds, because Pete had described the Mantis being and how it spoke.

And he said that there was some kind of orifice on its back that it had to essentially belch out of, and that it had figured out how to turn this into speech somehow – that it was this very kind of strange sounding thing.

And Pete had dialogued with the being about this at one point, and it said, “Well, imagine how gross you are to me.”

Emery: Right, exactly. What is that thing, that big hole on your face, sir?

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: It’s neat to do the perspective, for humans to turn it around. I want everyone to do that. Think about how you would react to one of these. Could you accept them because of the way they look?

David: Well, how do you feel when you’re around one of these insectoids, let’s say?

Emery: Oh, they’re very comical. I mean, they’re very . . . They have great communication. The insectoids are very loving, caring energies.

They actually tease you sometimes with their intelligence. They get a little pun out of saying things and doing things around you.

David: Well, so much of what we have in terms of human empathy comes from these extremely subtle muscular movements in our eyes and how that makes us look.

Emery: Uh huh.

David: But with a set of compound eyes you just have a bunch of dots that wouldn’t have any soul at all. So how would you feel humor from a being like this when you can’t get any eye information?

Emery: You don’t need to because a lot of this energy is telepathic and telekinetic, so you actually feel happy.

You might . . . Like you get chills walking into a dark room at night because you might feel a ghost, but it’s the opposite. It actually enlightens you. It actually puts you in a good mood, and your body picks up on this.

And a lot of communication in a lot of species out there with extraterrestrials is all based on just that without vocalness. It’s all just looking at each other and gathering information – just like dogs look at their owners at one side of the face, and it tells them everything they need to know of how you feel.

David: So you feel this sense of humor and this personality coming from the being without any facial cues at all that you would normally recognize?

Emery: Right, because a lot of these insectoids have just a very hard skin, very reflective skin – that there is no . . . all these muscles moving up and down. They don’t have a muscular structure except to open and close their mouth or eyeballs.

They don’t have a flaring of the nostrils, which we pick up on subliminally just as humans.

David: Right.

Emery: So it’s a very different feeling. It’s different aspects of communication.

David: So let’s go back again to the Ant people. And I had asked you to walk us through a specific example of where you were doing an autopsy with an Ant person.

Like what were they there for and what were you autopsying?

Emery: There was a big project where they found multiple Ant people that were somehow killed by chemicals of some sort. And there was a lot of them that were brought into the facility, I remember, by the truckloads actually.

David: Did you have any idea where these casualties happened?

Emery: No, I don’t know. I do believe it was in North America somewhere.

David: In an underground facility then?

Emery: Yeah, I think that somehow they were discovered, and I think they were probably taken out in some fashion in the New Mexico, Colorado area.

David: Okay.

Emery: I don’t know the specifics, but they did bring in multiple beings. And these beings all died of asphyxiation, and their lungs were completely burned out, and some of their mucous membranes and eyeballs were completely burned out.

David: Wow!

Emery: So these Ant scientists that were there were actually assisting, trying to find out and see what happened to these individuals.

David: Now were the Ant people in the room that were alive the same types as the ones that were dead?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes, the exact same types. And it was the first time I’ve ever felt sorrow next to an extraterrestrial.

David: Really? What was that like?

Emery: It was really upsetting. That was . . . [Emery feels strong emotion, stops, turns away, tears up.] sorry.

David: That’s okay. We’ve heard from others that you feel 100% empathy with them.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Like, if they lose a leg you feel . . .

Emery: You feel it.

David: . . . like your leg is lost. If they lose a loved one, it’s like your own mother or father died.

Emery: Especially if you’re working with them a lot. There’s some sort of frequency exchange. [It] could last for weeks, [it] could last for years, where you have this connection with them. And it’s a . . . And to relive that is overwhelming, whether it’s good or bad.

And you also have dreams, too, beautiful dreams.

David: Do you know if the being that was in the autopsy room with you had actually known these people? Was there a community? Did they . . . Were these people their friends, or were they just . . .

Emery: It was of the same race and they did not know them that I’m aware of and did not show anything that they knew them but just had an affinity for their own kind being so massacred.

David: Did you ever get any information about where they come from or how did they get to Earth? Did you get any briefings like that?

Emery: No. I know their civilization is pretty rampant all over our Solar System and universe. So . . .

David: Really?

Emery: I don’t know where they’re exactly from. I didn’t read up on that as much as the other species.

But they seem to have been around a lot longer than the human race.

David: Could you describe the color of their face? Like when you . . .

Emery: Oh, yeah. It’s like a blackish red, kind of like a brick color. And that brick color can go in many shades.

David: Oh!

Emery: And I’ve also seen a little bit more yellow than red, but they all have a similar fading of the blackish red in and out through their body and their legs and arms.

David: Are there any antenna on their heads?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: They have antennas.

David: What does that look like?

Emery: They’re shorter than you would see here on Earth with the little antennas that the ants are . . . They could be thick; they could be 3”; they could be 4”, 5” – not long like you see on our Earth, like these long antennas which are like half of the body.

David: You probably don’t know this, but that’s exactly what Corey Goode said.

Emery: I do not. I never heard that. And you guys know I don’t watch Corey or Pete Peterson. So that’s REALLY interesting he said that . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . because that . . . You can’t make that up.

David: You can’t make that up. It’s very cool.

Emery: Cool.

David: I didn’t want to give you a leading question.

Emery: No, please, yeah.

David: So when we have a Mantis-type being in the autopsy room with you, could you bring up for us one specific example where . . . Let’s describe what the being that you were autopsying was. What was the Mantis being there for? And why was that project being done?

Emery: Well, one of the autopsies we did: we had a Mantis being with about five other scientists in there. And we were working on a regular . . . actually, a human, but an extraterrestrial human that was not from Earth, that was born somewhere else.

And they were a lot larger than us, probably another foot or two taller. I think 7½’ [2.3 m] to say the least, like the size of an NBA player.

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And it was very white, albino looking skinned, blue-eyed person that . . . I don’t know why we were operating on him.

But they DID bring the Mantis in because the Mantis was able to somehow reactivate the brain through electric stimulation from them, even through a suit, and can memory recall what happened to the person before they died.

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David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: Wow!

Emery: And that’s why sometimes they are brought in. And they’re very docile, very gentle beings.

And when it’s not that serious of a situation, they can be really funny.

David: How much like a mantis’ face would this face of this being look like? Are there certain . . .

Emery: Oh, it is dead on. On the Mantis, it is dead on: that triangular shape with the bulging eyes, and it’s all the same color.

You know, their face and eyes are exactly the same color. So it’s a little weird.

They’re usually a pale green, and they can change color at will.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. And it’s neat to see them in deep thought when they’re doing these processes because it’s a wave of rainbow light going back and forth through their face.

David: Really?

Emery: You kind of can get mesmerized actually by it.

David: Wow!

Emery: I always love when they do that. I get so captivated. And I’m looking at them through the actual helmets that we use, these large glass spacesuit helmets.

And they’re just so . . . just so amazing to look at, especially when they move too. Like, I talked about these other ETs that move so fluid. but they are just more angled – their visor is more angled.

They don’t have the articulation that we do in our joints. It’s usually one way or the other, but very precise, very precise.

David: When we’re looking at hands on either an Ant person or a Mantis person, are they human-looking hands? Or what might be different?

Emery: They have five . . . They all have five fingers – the Mantis. The Ants may have anywhere from four to five fingers.

David: Really?

Emery: But they are fingers and they’re jointed, and they can move them. They’re just more like pointy, and you don’t see any muscles in them or anything like that.

It’s just because of this exoskeleton like the insects we have here on Earth.

David: So . . .

Emery: Feet are different, though. Not the feet. The feet do not have five toes.

David: What do you see?

Emery: Usually a two-toed type of appendage on the bottom of their legs. Yep, and it’s a very wide stance. And those toes are very long. Some can be up to 10”~12” long, but only two.

Sometimes you’ll see a little back toe sticking out.

David: The toe kind of shoots forward like this? [David holds his two closed fists together and extends his index fingers forward and apart.]

Emery: Exactly. And then one little back toe like a . . .I don’t even know what to compare it to. But you understand there’s a back one. So it’s a Y. Their feet are like this Y shape.

David: So we’ve been through, now, Mantis people. We’ve been through the Ant people. We’ve been through Simian people. You also mentioned Reptilians.

Emery: Yes.

David: Now, the Reptilians that we’re heard about from Corey are extremely antagonistic to us, extremely violent, extremely evil.

It doesn’t sound like this is the same thing in your case. So could you tell us about . . . What were the Reptilians that you saw? And what were they here for?

Emery: Well, the Reptilians that were working on the projects that I was involved with were very intelligent.

They didn’t have much of a personality.

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They’re very direct. They’re very robust. Not to be funny, but they kind of look like a Sleestak on the “Land of the Lost”, the old version.

And they stand very erect and they do have the same type of toes and hands that you would see on the insectoids.

David: Oh!

Emery: They’re more like a three-toed, three-prong hand, but very dexterous, very ambidextrous and dexterous. They could grab things just like we do.

And they’re very strong for their size.

You may see one anywhere from 6’~10′ tall [2.0~3.0 m].

They don’t have any snout. They have a regular like human face, scaly, but very large eyes, twice the size of our eyes, with pupils like us, not the slits you see in the movies.

It’s under my understanding that these might be hybrid-human Reptilians that were designed somewhere.

I did read a lot on their space center and the Bootes region of the Arcturus star system area, where they have a type of planet there that was man-made like you would see in the movies like “Death Star”, where they raise families and educate these beings at a very young age.

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The families are very large. The male and female might have a minimum of 30 children.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes. And they have a gestation that’s a lot faster than ours. It’s not nine months. It’s like three months.

David: Hm.

Emery: And their genitalia is also retractable into their bodies, so it’s really hard to tell if they’re male or female.

David: That’s another thing that Corey has independently reported, yes, same thing.

Emery: Interesting.

David: So you said that these beings looked sort of like the Sleestak on “Land of the Lost”.

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And I do remember as a kid being very, very freaked out when I saw those.

Emery: I was petrified of those beings as a little child.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And they did it well. I mean, they do look like so intimidating. They don’t have muscles in their face to smile, so they always have the same expression.

And even though they’re so . . . , they might be happy inside. You would not know by their face because it’s always the same expression.

So you can only know this by communication and by feeling their energy fields.

And another thing, they didn’t run around like you see the Sleestaks on the TV show, like, that are, I mean, naked with no clothing.

They actually had a special suit kind of like a Spandex fabric that covered their whole body.

And I finally found out why they wore these funny suits – they looked really funny in them – because I was hoping to see this naked Sleestak running around, right?

But no, it’s not like that at all. It’s very misleading. It actually had this Spandex suit covering most of its body except for the elbows down and knees down. And it was actually to control this odor that they had that’s very pungent, that’s a pheromone that they always release.

And anytime they get really excited or happy, it actually just kind of pours out of their body. And this absorbs it and neutralizes it using some sort of ionic technology that I’m not familiar with.

David: Well, you wouldn’t know this because you haven’t watched the show to not get contaminated, but we’ve had Niara Isley, we’ve had Pete Peterson, and we’ve had Corey Goode all report on the awful smell that these beings have.

Emery: Yes!

David: So this was a way for them to be more social, I guess?

Emery: Yeah. They actually do communicate a little bit.

Don’t forget, these beings can breathe through their skin. And these pheromones are actually a way of communicating with others.

And I heard that their smell is so good . . . and they do smell with their tongue and they have a very interesting tongue. It’s not split or anything, but it’s very long. But they don’t ever show that, by the way. That’s just something they do, I think, when they eat.

And their eating is also very interesting because they only eat like once a month.

And these smells and these pheromones can be smelled . . . They can smell this for a few hundred miles. It’s like the Raptors and the birds and the sharks of the ocean that can pick up on these small molecules in the air. Not to say one of these Reptilians would completely contaminate a 10-mile underground base with their stench, but just to say: where they’re from, this is another form of communication of how their emotion is at that point.

David: It seems to me from what you’re saying now [is] that our military-industrial-complex is already deeply involved with benevolent extraterrestrial species.

Do you think these benevolent ETs want to be known to the rest of us at some point? Do you think there is going to be some kind of opening up of the veils of secrecy?

Emery: 1,000% they want this. And I think by them doing these humanitarian projects to show their willingness to help and work with us, to learn their customs and to learn about their physiology, is the first step for human-extraterrestrial interaction and trust.

David: Awesome. Well, Emery, I want to thank you for being here.

Emery: Thank you for having me.

David: You’re very brave. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with our special guest, Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Dire Consequences of Breaching Security

David Wilcock: Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with our guest, Emery Smith.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Hi, Dave. Thanks for having me again.

David: In a previous episode, we were discussing some kinds of things that might happen where perhaps somebody is shifty and nervous, and they’re looking around. And they come up to you and they say, “There’s something I really want you to know, but I don’t know if I should tell you.”

And I asked you, “Did that ever happen?” And what was your answer? Let’s just review that first.

Emery: Yeah, there was something similar to that. It doesn’t usually happen that way. It usually happens after you know someone’s been in a project for a very, very long time, longer than you have, even.

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And they see that you’ve been in there a long time, so they know that you’re doing something right because you’re still there.

And, you know, at the lunch table, you might be sharing some information. You might become friends, which you’re not allowed to become friends with anyone, even inside these compartmentalized programs or outside. But it does happen.

David: Well, now, wait a minute. On a typical military uniform, there’s a name, right, like in the Army or the Marines.

Emery: Yes.

David: Do you have names on your uniforms in there?

Emery: No, no. There’s no names. You only have the band.

David: So are you allowed to tell people what your name is, or is it even . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah, you’re allowed to have “casual conversation”, they say. So people talk about their families, what they did over the weekend, common things you hear normal people talk about: movies and TV shows and funny jokes, of course.

A lot of jokes are said during lunch that people come up with that also reflect on some of the projects that we work on. But it doesn’t talk about the project, so it’s okay.

David: So you could get to know somebody by name . . .

Emery: Sure.

David: . . . and remember their name and talk to them. Did you also have outside the cafeteria any recreational areas that you would hang out with these people in?

Emery: Well, not recreational areas, but I became friends with a lot of the commanders and a lot of scientists that were in the same projects.

And I did illegally meet with these scientists and people for social gatherings, dinners and barbecues.

You think because it’s your commander inviting you to the barbecue, that – and he’s been in it for 10, 20 years more than you – that everything’s going to be all right, right? And that’s not the fact. That is not a fact . . . that it’s not all right.

And they put these in place – these rules – so these things don’t happen and that the information does not fall into the wrong hands.

And one of the commanders on one of the projects I was working on I became really close with – a really good friend of mine. And we’d go mountain biking together. We had motorcycles. Just one of my buddies, you know?

David: Were you allowed to have a mountain biking expedition with the commander off base? Or was that not . . .

Emery: No. No, you are not allowed to.

David: Right.

Emery: Absolutely not. I remember visiting him and his wife, and my girlfriend and I, many times out to eat and things. And we would never really talk about anything to do on the base. We were really good about that.

But, you know, during our lunch hours and during other hours of trainings in these underground facilities, you do talk sometimes. People slip up and start talking about things.

And one of the things he mentioned to me was this amazing craft that he was going to get me involved with possibly to work on and to actually try out the flight simulator of an alien reproduction vehicle.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah.

David: Now, had you ever gotten to see any craft before this point?

Emery: Yes. I did see a craft before this point but not to this extent, and they were not alien reproduction vehicles.

David: Now, what is an alien reproduction vehicle for those who don’t know?

Emery: When we have craft that we find or unearth or shoot down or collect from space junk or collect from some other place in space, it’s brought to these facilities, and they basically try to reverse engineer these craft to the best that they can of their abilities.

David: So this commander buddy of yours . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . sounds like you guys had really gotten close. You’re going mountain biking with him. You’re having dinner with his family.

Did they have . . . like . . . Did you guys get chipped? Could they have GPSed you and know that you were having dinner with this guy?

Emery: No, not that I was aware of. I actually got caught with the commander in a location that I was not authorized to be in because of my clearance.

And everything went to hell in a handbag after that.

David: Well, this is a story you told me many years ago, so let’s unpack this a little bit.

Where were you with the commander when he first told you about this, and what did he say you might be able to see?

Emery: There was an actual extraterrestrial craft that they had captured and brought into one of the underground hangar operating rooms . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . the whole vacuumed one. And inside that, they were duplicating it in the same room, trying to reverse engineer the craft.

David: Okay.

Emery: So they started with the inside of the craft. So it was kind of like the craft was opened up, and you could cut it in half.

2 Illustration Of Alien Craft

And it was a diamond-shaped craft, and it wasn’t that big. It was probably no bigger than an 18-wheeler [large semi-tractor trailer].

David: So when you say “diamond-shaped”, could you be more precise about what that means? What would it actually look like if you had to draw it?

Emery: Like a piece of fluorite.

David: Okay.

Emery: It’s an octahedron.

David: A pyramid on top, pyramid on the bottom.

Emery: Correct.

David: Okay.

Emery: That’s right, but laying down. So the points are out, not up and down.

David: Oh! Okay.

Emery: So it’s laying this way [Emery separates his hands to show a horizontal arrangement] and balancing itself perfectly.

David: Wow!

Emery: So they made this. They were trying to do that.

David: And you said it’s about the size of an 18-wheeler?

Emery: Yeah. It’s really small.

David: And what was the color?

Emery: It was gold.

David: Okay.

Emery: It actually had a light to it – a very nice light, like these lights that are on us on our face.

David: So it glowed?

Emery: Very subtle. Very subtle. And it had a very metallic surface, so it would reflect light if you shined light on it.

David: Seamless, again?

Emery: Seamless, except for the edges of the octahedron.

David: But you said it had already been dissected or something.

Emery: Yeah, . . . well, no. The craft that they were making next to it was just . . . They were trying to find out how it works and how it flies around.

And they were doing a lot of stuff with the actual electromagnetics of it. So they duplicated a half version. They cross sectioned a man-made half version, okay?

David: Like just half of a octahedron?

Emery: Just of half of . . .

David: You could cut it down the middle?

Emery: Yes, exactly.

David: Okay. How did you get there if you’re not cleared to be there? If you’re not authorized to be there, how in the world would you get into that room?

Emery: There is a stipulation if you’re escorted by someone of high authority. And a lot of the times, for emergency reasons, you have to go to certain places really quick.

And as long as you’re with someone that has a clearance higher than you, then the responsibility falls under that person for legal issues and for everything.

David: Oh!

Emery: But everyone knows that if you’re not read into a project, it’s very unlikely you would go see something without knowing everything about it.

And I was NOT read into the project. I was read into the project clandestinely through my friend.

David: Walk us through what happens.

Emery: So we got down to this floor. The door slides open, and we walk down a hallway around maybe 100′ [30.48 m] or so. And there’s another normal vacuum door that we would see that slides open, just like you see regular elevator doors that slide open, but these are VERY thick doors – extremely thick, about 24” [610 mm] thick.

3 First Thick Door

Once these doors open, there’s a platform, okay? This platform goes another maybe 30′ [9.1 m] with railings. And it completely drops down to an abyss that you cannot see the bottom of.

4 Platform With Railings

5 Suspended Sphere

David: Wow!

Emery: And the walls are completely covered in rock, just like you would see in a cavern – just pure solid rock walls.

And THAT – the room I’m about to go across this catwalk – IS a doom room that the craft is in.

David: Hm.

Emery: So you have all these different bridges going to this self-suspended operating, pressurized, giant room.

6 Suspended Sphere And Catwalks

David: So you had to get through these 24” thick blast doors . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . just to get to the catwalk . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . through the cave BEFORE you get to the dome part.

Emery: Yes, exactly.

David: Wow!

Emery: So it’s a very, you know, . . . It’s very secured, for sure. And I don’t know why they have this room suspended away from walls maybe a hundred feet.

So you have this giant room now. You’re walking into it with multiple catwalks from other doors that go into it.

And then you come there, and the same thing. These doors open up . . . the same doors that you just saw, another 24”. And NOW you’re in the bay.

David: Wow!

Emery: And that’s where the two craft were.

David: Describe now what you see, and how do you approach it?

Emery: It’s a large, round room with a dome top that goes very high. I don’t know exactly how high – at least a few hundred feet.

And the floor is completely mirrored in a metallic, mirror-type tile. The tilings are in a hexagonal shape. And they’re very large tiles. They’re maybe six feet – these hexagon tiles.

I don’t know if they’re used for electromagnetic . . . There might be something under there. I was thinking maybe they used it to shoot frequencies up to this thing because both craft are now touching the ground, but these things weigh a couple kilotons.

So obviously, something is supporting them unnaturally that we’re not used to having here on Earth – some sort of anti-gravity.

One of the craft is the original, of course. We talked about this.

And then the second one is just for instructors to learn how to fly this craft.

David: What was your experience? Were you afraid to talk and to say how awesome this looked? Did you say anything to the commander?

Emery: Yes, I did say it. I said, “This is amazing! This is awesome! Thank you for allowing me to be part of this project.” Because I was just an . . . I really just thought this is my first introduction maybe to this, and now I’m maybe going to be part of this in some way or another.

David: I’m really curious about this flight simulator system. Could you go into a little bit more detail about what is the actual experience? Are you seeing stars? And do you zoom around Jupiter and Saturn in this simulator? What do you actually do?

Emery: Exactly.

7 Flight Simulator

It’s a complete description of 3D reality of the entire planet and the oceans.

David: Of THIS planet?

Emery: Of this planet.

David: Really?

Emery: It doesn’t show anything going off planet, by the way, nothing further than the Moon, I mean. But other than that, they have complete simulations of the Moon structures, also inside the Moon.

8 Flight Simulator 2

The coolest thing was the oceans here. It’s things you would never have seen before.

And whether that’s just written in as a program, I don’t believe so. I think it’s an exact replica of stuff they already know about.

So just imagine plugging into Google Earth times 1,000 with some virtual reality glasses and being able to go anywhere.

David: What was cool about the oceans?

Emery: Well, the oceans . . . We only know about the oceans just from Google Earth and what we’ve learned from the encyclopedias. Not many people can get into a sub and explore the oceans.

And we know more about our own space than we do our own oceans, and everyone knows that.

And the seat is actually a part of the craft.

So there’s not like a chair. It’s actually molded – I’ll say a mold of a seat – and in that . . . in front of that is this huge dashboard.

And this dashboard has many screens in it. It has many holographic images. It has joysticks but made for your hand. Your hand slips in them.

David: Wow!

Emery: So imagine a reverse glove, I guess, where you’re putting your hands into this glove area. And your palms fit nicely on a smooth ball surface. And that is what turns everything on.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. So he was beginning to teach me how to fly the craft.

David: So you got to sit in this cockpit?

Emery: I flew the craft.

David: Inside the dome?

Emery: No. I mean, this was a simulator. That’s why it had a big screen in it.

They were trying to reverse engineer the seat and some of the things they’ve seen in there. And then this was fake. This was a big screen. It’s a simulator of that craft.

David: Okay.

Emery: So they were training clandestine pilots how to use this craft with these ball things that your hands slide into.

9 Flight Simulator 3

And it’s a very comfortable seat, by the way.

David: Would this morph for your body, or was it just a nice, comfortable shape?

Emery: It felt very . . . It was very plasticity. It didn’t contour to your body. It didn’t morph to you, but it did give way.

So your elbows and everything . . . you had to be sitting in a certain position. And it’s kind of reclined a little bit, and you’re sitting back like this with your hands in these weird . . . which is part of the seat, by the way, the gloves.

Don’t think of gloves, everyone. Think of just holes in the seat that your hands perfectly fit on these balls that are in there.

And after going into the simulator for a number of hours – at least three or four hours – I just remember hearing that horrible sound of the doors opening because everything echoes in there.

You hear everyone’s conversation – everything. There’s no carpet or anything. You can hear a pin drop from 100′ away.

And it’s just this dead, beautiful silence and just our voices. And then when the doors open, they have this very interesting sound. It sounds like a . . . If you ever had a piece of plastic . . . I always refer to X-rays because you know how the X-ray paper is?

David: Yeah.

Emery: And you shake it, and it goes “rah-rah-rah-rah-rah”. Well, these doors do that. “Rah-rah-rah-rah-rah”, and they just come right open. And they have this “rah-rah-rah-rah-rah-rah” – this really weird vibrational noise that’s just not common to hear on a mechanical door, I’ll say.

And when I heard that, I looked at him, and I said, “Oh, are there other people coming?” He says, “No. No one is allowed to be here right now.”

And that’s when the suits came up.

David: What do you mean by suits, exactly?

Emery: The suits . . . I was figuring on him being the ultimate commander here being in charge of anything. No one’s higher than him. So how are any security going to say anything about this? Because I legitimately thought this was okay. And it was not.

And these suits are people in black suits, okay? This is not a clean area, by the way. So you don’t have to have your space suits in here. This is what we call a “dirty area”. So you can just be in your uniform there.

And these suits came in, four . . .

David: Are we talking suit and tie?

Emery: Yeah, suit and tie, four or five of them. They were all taller than me and bigger than me.

David: Are we talking “Men in Black”, like with the hat and sunglasses?

Emery: No. No hats and sunglasses, just normal, big guys, but very professional.

David: Okay.

Emery: Not security either, but they could be. And I just remember them grabbing him by the arms and just pulling him away of the thing.

And then they told me to get out of the chair, and I just got out of the chair. And they put my hands behind me and zip tied me and blindfolded me. And that’s the last time I ever saw him.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah.

David: In your whole life?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay. Walk us through this now. I know this part is very painful, but tell us.

So you have some kind of bag put over your head. You’re zip tied. How long was it before you got into the room? What did you experience along the way? Was it in a vehicle?

Emery: It was a long walk. I was in three different elevators. It was a very long walk, and I was trying to trace my steps to where they were taking me, but then they put me on one of these electric ground cars that they have.

And they’re very small, but they can hold four people. But think of it as a toboggan-type thing, but double the size.

And they were talking in a different language that I do not know.

The last thing I remember . . .

David: It didn’t sound like any Earth language you’re familiar with?

Emery: No.

David: Wow!

Emery: I thought maybe it was Navajo or some other Indian language. It sounded just an offbeat of Navajo language. I know a little bit of that from living in New Mexico, but I didn’t understand it. And they spoke it very fluently. And they would break in and out talking in English to me.

David: Did these people look like they were from Earth otherwise?

Emery: They were genetically modified humans for sure. Somehow they were genetically modified because they were just a little bit too large. They all looked a little bit too similar. And they were very professional and smart and very, very strong.

David: What type of race of people on Earth would they be?

Emery: They were like . . . They were white. Their race was white. They had blue eyes. They had different colored hair. They were dressed very nicely.

David: And extremely muscular?

Emery: Extremely muscular and large. Yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah.

David: So this is intimidating right off the bat.

Emery: I was scared, very much so.

David: Were they carrying anything like a weapon or something on them when you first saw them?

Emery: No, not at all, but they were forcefully handling me. And I was being very compliant, but they were still handling me very forcefully.

David: And what happens next?

Emery: They take me out of this vehicle into a small room, because . . . I ended up getting my blindfold taken off at the end. That’s why I can describe it ahead of time.

But I was blindfolded. I had . . . My arms were zip tied behind me. And they told me to sit down in a chair. And there’s three chairs and a table in a 10′ room.

And I was struck in the back of the head numerous times, in the neck and also in the stomach, by some sort of instrument, like a baton maybe or something.

And I did go unconscious. I was bleeding from the back of my head but nothing on my face.

They then sat down and decided to ask me a lot of questions. They were asking me questions of how long did I know about the project? What did he tell me?

You know, I admitted to having a friendship with him on the outside with his family, which they already kind of knew, but we never talked about any of that.

I asked if I could get some medical attention because I felt like I was losing a lot of blood. And a person was brought in, and they basically just applied some direct pressure to me. And they told me to go home, and that they would contact me.

David: Did you have contusions or a concussion afterwards?

Emery: Yeah, I had a concussion and a big hematoma on the back of my head. I was petrified to go report it. I thought maybe that would . . . and I think they were testing. I thought that was the next test.

And it was, because I didn’t say anything. And that’s how I got my job back, because I was able to keep a secret. And the secret hurt me.

David: What is it like to be in that place where you feel completely powerless, you’re handcuffed, you can’t see anything, and you’re just getting savagely beaten? What was going through your mind? Did you think they were going to kill you?

Emery: Yeah, I just thought this was it. I wasn’t even saying anything because I knew what the contract is, and you don’t mess up the contract.

And even though I was misled, I didn’t know that it was a . . . because it’s a very touchy situation.

It was such a touchy situation, because did Smith do this intentionally? Was he intentionally trying to do harm to the facility?

Obviously, he was escorted to places that he didn’t have clearances [for] through someone that had a higher clearance, which is allowed at certain times, but not at this time. This was not . . .

I guess this did not correlate with whoever is REALLY running this. He did not probably report . . . Maybe he DID have to report to someone. He just never told me.

I didn’t see it this way. This was definitely civilian compartmentalized with military leaders that were in there.

Did I do something wrong? All I know is I did something wrong. I figured, “Well, obviously, I’m here in a really bad situation right now. I’m going to be killed probably, and that’s it.” So I was accepting that.

I mean, I was broken down enough until they took the blindfolds off, and I just remember looking up at them. And they just said never to repeat this again, “and if you say anything or do anything, you know what happens.”

And I just knew at that point, “Well, I’m not going to die.” Why would he be talking to me? Why would he [be] looking up at me as I’m looking up, you know, [and] say this to me and giving me, obviously, another chance?

So I was sent home. They said, “We will contact you. Do not come to work tomorrow.”

And I did not want to go home because that must mean I won’t be coming back, is what I thought. But then I thought, well . . .

David: How did you get home if you’re in an unfamiliar part of the base?

Emery: Oh, no. They escorted me out. They already . . . I was already back to my area. That’s what all that driving and going up and down . . .

They did take a DNA sample from me, a cheek swab. And they took blood from me, which is normal when things go weird.

I’ve heard this before that they do this to anyone that’s caught in other areas.

And I was restricted from ever trying to contact him or his family ever again “for the duration of my life on Earth”, quote unquote.

David: Wow! So then you went home the normal way that you would have from your work.

Emery: Yes. Yes, with no delay. Nothing.

I literally was so freaked out. I really thought I lost everything. I thought I lost my career and my job with them.

I’ve heard so many horrific stories of this happening to other people and thought it would NEVER happen to me because I played by the rules. And this rule they didn’t like. They didn’t like what had happened.

And the last thing they were saying was just to go home: “We’ll contact you.” So I thought I was out of a job. I thought I’d lost all my clearances. I thought everything was just going to go down the tubes for me.

I thought even my career with the military . . . I thought this would affect it somehow.

And that’s when I did go home. And I still went to work the next day for my military job.

And then a day . . .

David: The “cover job”.

Emery: The cover job. And then a day after, I got curious and went on my mountain bike and wanted to do a little investigation of my own to go around the mountain up there by this place where we talked about how the commander had alluded to some amazing things going on up there.

If everyone looks on Google on Kirtland Air Force Base, or if you’re flying over to land at ABQ [Albuquerque International Sunport], you know, everyone knows about the mountains hollowed out there.

10 Google Earth 1 Kirtland AFB

11 Google Earth 2 Albuquerque

12 Google Earth 3 Nearby Mountains

And there are these giant doors in the mountain where they used to keep all the nuclear warheads back in the early days. And now they’re used for storing other things.

And he did mention this – the commander – to me during one of our excursions. And I knew that there was something going on up there, but I didn’t really have the clearance to be in or near that facility.

However, since I’m active duty member, there is a bike trail that goes all the way around that facility.

There are also four or five fences, guard dogs and MPs [military policemen] at all the entrances going into the AREA of the mountains. And those service roads are what I use to mountain bike a couple times a week.

But I was young and curious. And I thought maybe if I go up there, I might be able to catch a glimpse of something and see what’s going on, coming in and out.

Also, using special goggles and stuff, you can see different energy fluctuations that I was issued at that time.

Anyway, so I went around. And I was mountain biking around this facility and probably looking at the facility more than looking at my bike trail, I presume.

And three-quarters of the way around, I became deathly ill. I felt like I was getting nuked from the inside out. And I still had another eight miles to go back to my barracks. And I did make it back.

And when I made it back, I curled up into a ball and I prayed to God to just kill me because it was the most excruciating pain I’ve ever had.

David: So what do you think happened to you based on what you know now?

Emery: I think that was a scalar weapon. It felt like your entire insides are on fire and you cannot do anything to make the pain go away.

You go into the fetus position, and it feels like someone is just getting your insides and just twisting them up and lighting them on fire. And it was just so horrific that I went unconscious and possibly could have maybe died at that point. I don’t know.

David: So just so we’re clear, do you think there’s some sort of emitter, like a beam weapon, that they pointed at you while you were riding your bike?

Emery: Sure. Later on, I found out they do have scalar technology that’s all pinpointed. They could do it right through the Earth here and hit someone in China – just that person – and neutralize them.

Spontaneous human combustion – no! It’s not that. It’s these types of weapons that they use.

So these things do happen.

David: So did you wipe out on your bicycle when they hit you with this?

Emery: No. I just slowly started getting worse, worse, worse and worse and worse and worse as I’m coming down the mountain.

David: Oh.

Emery: And I made it. I should have just went to the hospital or something, but I kind of knew where I was and . . . I’ve heard of these stories. They were just myths amongst the people that worked there, but I didn’t really know know. Now, I know.

David: Now, you told me before that as a result of getting zapped with this that you had a post-traumatic stress disorder that developed.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Could you explain a little bit about what that is? What happened?

Emery: Well, any time I get any type of weird feeling from energies or something, it could trigger me – certain situations in life that might trigger me. You just go into an anxiety panic mode.

You know, you might not remember what had happened the last hour or so. You can even blackout sometimes.

I’ve actually just shut down and woke up in the bed going, “Wow! That was pretty intense.”

David: So you’re lying in bed now. You’ve had head wounds recently. You said you had a hematoma. You had a concussion. Now you’ve had this outrageous directed energy weapon attack.

At this point, did you know if you were ever going to be able to work again? Or what was going through your mind?

Emery: It wasn’t until the day after when I woke up from being unconscious just in my barracks from this beam weapon that I had a message. And it was to report to duty at this time. And I did.

Once again, I did meet with three people, but these were not those guys in the suits. These were the people I always work with.

And they just said, “Don’t let that happen again”. And I said, “I won’t”. And that was it.

David: Wow!

Emery: I got my job back.

David: How did this event change you in terms of how . . . because you said you were very enthusiastic about your job. You felt like you were in an amusement park almost – an alien amusement park. How did this change that?

Emery: There was some sort of continuity breakdown, I thought. And I just didn’t believe in them anymore. I didn’t believe in the structure. Like, who the heck is behind this? Who is pulling the cords? Who is giving . . . You know, who is REALLY running this show down here? Who were those guys in the black suits?

I started getting mad, like going mad. I was trying to figure it out for myself and now I can’t even talk to anybody about it. I can’t even . . . To my own co-workers, I can’t say anything.

David: I know you can’t get too specific, but where would this commander be in the U.S. military hierarchy let’s say in relationship to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who report to the President of the United States and are the heads of each branch of the military.

Where would he be in that relationship?

Emery: It’s all based on clearance. You can be a captain and have the same clearance as a general or a colonel. You can be a sergeant and have the same clearance as a captain or a colonel.

Remember, it’s the duties that you perform, and what is needed to get the job done. It’s not about the . . . They don’t use the military system of rank for these positions, okay?

They use the knowledge base and educational base of the people that are put in place to run these projects.

David: So as far as you knew then, it’s not like this commander might be a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff or some big head wig in the military. But within your classified ecosystem, . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . he was almost as high as it could get from your information.

Emery: He was the highest.

David: He was the highest?

Emery: The highest that I knew in my area. And I didn’t think there WAS anyone higher that had more clearances to go anywhere in that base.

David: Wow!

Emery: So . . .

David: And he never gave you the impression that there was anybody like that?

Emery: No.

David: Wow! Well, this is quite a story – tragic, but also I think very revealing of the sacrifices that you have had to make to get to where you are today to tell us this information.

How do you feel to finally have this story be shared with the world at this point?

Emery: I just want everyone to know what’s really going on. And I want it off my shoulders so other people can come forward and share, and for them to feel . . . because I know they’re in pain, too.

It’s a hard thing to grasp and to understand unless you’ve actually been there. And I know there’s a lot more Emerys out there like myself, and they just need a little maybe help from an interview like this to get them to come out and join us to let the people know they have the right to know about all these amazing things that are going on down there that can help humanity.

And at the same time, where is all that money going for taxes that we pay and things like this?

There’s a lot of corruption. Even though these things sound cool to some people, like sci-fi movies, it’s not. It should be something that is frowned upon. And the goodness should come out of it, not the bad parts.

David: Well, I want to thank you for stepping forward, and I hope that we do get more of those insiders.

And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with our guest, Emery Smith.

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