Cosmic Disclosure: Subterranean Secrets of Humanity

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I am here with Emery Smith, continuing our fascinating discussion into underground civilizations.

Emery, welcome back.

Emery Smith: Well, thanks, Dave. I can’t wait to get into this one.

David: So one of the things that I’m curious about, because there’s a lot of light bulbs going off in my head right now, we have the crash site in Antarctica that we’ve already talked about before.

Emery: Right.

David: You said there’s a very massive . . . You confirmed independently, a very massive mothership there . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . that we’ve been studying for how long?

Emery: As far as I know, through these scientists, 24 years.

David: Okay. And we have some kind of connection between that wreckage and the underground civilization that you described in Ecuador, . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . which you said is actually . . . started maybe as a craft, but then it got built out or something?

Emery: Yeah. I think the energy of the craft must have stimulated . . . must have had also organisms on it, or bacteria, because it changed the inside of the cavern into a different atmosphere, even.

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And the creatures that are down there and the plant life and stuff is completely different than the surface. And they have taken creatures out of there, brought them to the surface, and they instantly died.

David: Can you breathe the air without an apparatus?

Emery: Yes. It’s the cleanest air. I felt great down there, actually. And they’ve already tested it over and over and over.

This is a new find, by the way, that I’m aware of.

David: Just to recap this Ecuador thing briefly, one of the pieces of intel we got from Pete Peterson, he talked at great length about how the ship in Antarctica had . . . that when you lived in the place in the ship, that you had your own yard. And there was like a filtration system of, like, from the bathroom, from your shower, from the toilet, that would go in and feed this garden.

And so obviously, this was buried under the ice, and so everything was destroyed.

But now what you’re telling me about Ecuador makes me wonder if maybe the vegetation in THAT ship in your own yard would have looked similar.

Emery: Interesting.

David: What would your thoughts be on that?

Emery: Yeah. I think there’s a definite correlation between that and there. These are two completely different environments, of course, now, so I would expect different things to happen chemically. But that’s still open for observation.

I know they have a really good team down there, and they’re not mistreating it and just chopping it all up and taking it all out. So we’ll see what happens.

David: Now, another thing that has all kinds of light bulbs popping off in my head is that the oldest of the Antarctica wreckage that I’ve heard about, from more than one source, is, apparently, 33-feet-tall giants.

Emery: Oh, yes. Yes.

David: Have you heard anything like that?

Emery: Yes, I’ve heard about that.

David: Okay. What did you hear specifically?

Emery: That there was a lot of other sarcophagi and a lot of other extraterrestrials, bodies down there, that were over 30 feet tall that they have already found excavated. Some were removed. Some were not, of course.

They’re trying to build a story now behind everything and slowly release it to the public in a very calm way, because it goes against, of course, all the stuff that we’ve been brought up to believe as far as where we come from and religion.

So they’re going to just slowly seep these things out.

One of the amazing things that we found at this other place that we were talking about earlier . . .

David: In America?

Emery: . . . in America, was a 33-foot being inside a sarcophagi in a state of stasis.

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David: Really?

Emery: So this is kind of a pre-Adamite-type being we believe. And, of course, the pyramids are nearby. That empty block cube-rooms are nearby.

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The five acres of white-powdered gold is nearby, and this is where the steps descend down into the hollowed out meteorite, or whatever you want to call it – the hollowed out Earth rock that is suspended mass around an aquifer.

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David: Right. So regarding stasis beings, we have heard from Corey, some of the most recent briefings he got, and I believe Peterson had this too, that they found stasis beings that were 500,000 years old in the earliest Antarctica city of the . . .

You know, there’s a very, very ancient one.

Emery: Right.

David: It’s over a billion years old, apparently, but then the recent one of 500,000 years ago had this EXACT same thing you just described. So that is amazing.

Did you hear about similar stasis beings in Antarctica? I’m curious.

Emery: No, I did not. No, I did not hear about any stasis beings that were in Antarctica. They did not talk about that.

And there’s many teams, just so you know.

And this team was only a team of four scientists.

David: Really?

Emery: There’s thousands of scientists on this project down there that work for different governments and our government, and that are trying to cover up things and keep things also preserved.

And as I said, I don’t believe the craft actually crashed there either. I really think the craft actually was there and just stayed there. And whatever happened happened at that time, whether it was a cataclysmic event or whatnot.

David: Right.

Emery: And now, the snow is melting, and Earth is going to be the Full Disclosure. Ha, ha.

David: Ha, ha. When we’re looking at Antarctica being such a subject of interest, one of the insiders I spoke to said that there was a dark agenda, to some degree, for disclosing Antarctica.

They felt that it would be able to create a religious war.

Just speculating, . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . why do you think that might be?

Emery: Well, everything down there is just going to destroy organized religion as we know it.

David: Why do you think it would?

Emery: Because they have found tablets and information and intelligence down there that’s proving the history of Mars and the Moon and the history of this area of the universe. I’ll say this area of the universe.

And they’re starting to decipher it now.

So that being brought up would cause, probably, a huge conflict. And that’s what they’re worried about is us misbehaving because of our religious beliefs.

David: Right. So, it doesn’t necessarily mean that Jesus was fake or Moses was fake or Muhammad was fake.

Emery: Oh, no. You’re right. All these avatars have lived here and have been here and have been these amazing gods and people.

What’s going to happen is, if they did bring up everything, it just . . . Let’s just say the stories that are being told are not completely told to the full extent. There’s gaps and things that are missing, and this will fill all those gaps.

And it’s like an unfinished book with ALL the religions.

David: Wow!

Emery: So this will fill in all those loose gaps, and every one actually will come correct.

But of course, I’m sure some will not. Some maybe won’t believe it.

To believe something your entire life and then have an archaeologist bring something up to the surface that says something different, it could cause some turmoil in the world.

David: So you’re saying that this massive boulder that was found somewhere in America at an undisclosed location has remains of giants in it.

Emery: Yes, correct.

David: And could you explain a little bit more. You mentioned armor. You mentioned skeletons.

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Emery: A lot of skeletons and armor, lots of gold and silver, and the old medieval-type treasure stuff that you would find, lots of coins, lots of pots full of coins.

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David: But I thought I also heard you say that you felt like the entire interior of the egg was also stuffed with white gold.

Emery: Yeah. There’s about five acres that we determined of powdered white gold in there in a separate section.

David: Oh. So it’s not like the whole entire egg is filled with white gold?

Emery: No, just one small section.

David: Cavities that people could use and walk around in?

Emery: Yes, yes, right. And these steps are fairly large steps. They’re not just your normal steps – anywhere from 8′ to 13′.

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David: Wow!

Emery: Coming up and down.

David: So giants for sure – 33′. Right, 8′ for a 33′ tall being.

Emery: It would be just about right.

David: Would be just about right. Ha, ha.

How clean are the steps? How do they look?

Emery: Well, using the technology we have, they’re flawless, kind of like how the pyramids and Machu Picchu was built. Everything is just such a perfect edge.

And that’s how we knew. It was like, no way could Earth have created this.

David: Hm. And you’re saying that, hypothetically, if you have a submarine, and you know where to go, you could navigate into the Earth and swim right up to this boulder.

Emery: That aquifer, unfortunately, has a small inlet in and a small inlet out. It’s just this hollowed area that does hold a lot of water.

So we didn’t see any large areas that a submarine could fit into.

David: Oh, okay.

Emery: And that’s why we just started from the surface of the Earth and just decided to drill on down, just drill straight down til we hit it, and then worry about it from there.

But the problem was three feet of water, you know, with millions of pounds of pressure.

David: Now, you were describing this very strange idea, which I remember you did have me talk to the scientist who invented this for a while, something about this light that gold emanates that seems to penetrate matter and can be detected by certain people who maybe are psychic. Is it like remote viewing?

Emery: Well, no, it’s not like remote viewing. They actually have different cones in their eyes and stuff that can see many different wavelengths of blue and gray light.

So for some reason, they can look across the ocean and see a place that has a large amount of gold, unlike how our treasure hunters today. We don’t have that capability.

So we pay off people in the government and use satellites or borrow satellites from corporations to look through the ocean.

But these treasures that are most amazing, unfortunately, are on land, below the land, in land. So it’s a different type of treasure hunting now, as you can see.

One of the funny things, some of the treasure hunters that taught me that were very famous . . . I said, “Well, how do you guys always find the gold?” Because not everyone has a chance to use a satellite.

And they said, “Well, if we know of an area that someone says has gold, we’ll go down there and scoop up all the seaweed. And then we’ll take it home and feed it to all the rats.

“And we’ll wait for the rats to poop, and then we’ll see the gold. And then we’ll go back and take the gold.”

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah.

David: Nuggets in the . . .

Emery: So they’ll measure the rat poop using, I think, a spectrometer or something . . . some sort of device. And then they . . .

David: Wow! Very interesting.

Emery: Ha, ha. Isn’t that crazy?

David: That stuff you couldn’t make up. It’s just too weird.

Emery: So anyway, these famous people, these famous treasure hunters that are really great people that were in charge of this – amazing people, loving people, giving people, because they want to give . . . They don’t want to keep this treasure. They want to give it back to the world and create things for the world.

David: I want to go out on a limb here and ask you this. I kind of get the sense what you’re saying is that maybe there’s a certain strain of extraterrestrial DNA that’s seeded into human population.

And those people, whether they’re aware of it or not, might have a slightly different optical apparatus, slightly different retinal tissue that, if they became aware of what they could do, they could learn that they would see this unusual efflorescence around where a gold deposit is. Is that true?

Emery: It could be. Not only that, but also that somehow, they were downloaded from an extraterrestrial to increase their vision and have an upgrade. We call them “upgrades”.

So there are certain people and very, highly special agents that work at the highest levels that have these special abilities. They use these special abilities for whatever, whoever, they are working for.

What’s interesting is, inside that cavern is also some other things that we have found that shows the lineage from where everyone came from. Yeah.

And that’s one of the biggest gifts we could have. And it’s hard for me to say that.

That’s the biggest secret that’s down there is the secret to all of us and where we came from and the lineage of our DNA and what it contains and also instructions on how to read that DNA and instructions on how to build stargates and open up portals and things like that.

So it’s a plethora of not only religious artifacts and extraterrestrial artifacts, but it’s also got a lot of amazing tools in there that we could use.

And maybe we’re just not ready for it yet to be opened.

David: So how was this scientist . . . And I understand I might be treading into areas that are talking “out of school”, too classified for you to mention, but I just want to see how close we can get.

Did this scientist, for example, have the ability to see these weird colors himself, or did he find somebody who could?

Was the technology in some way based on the organic function?

Emery: No. He was born this way.

David: Really?

Emery: So he was a gifted person who joined the military and was an amazing remote viewer and became right up at the highest echelon of people to go to when they need to find something, or someone. And he’s very well respected amongst his peers.

David: Could you explain . . . just because I’m sure people are going to be really curious about this. I know I am.

If you had those special rods and cones in your eye, what would you see? Would it look like misty fog or exactly what?

Emery: I don’t think they . . . No, from what I’ve gathered, and this is second-hand information, that they see just like we do.

However, if they’re looking, of course, for something, it’s just off just like one small frequency of light. It just means maybe your shirt . . . I can see many blues in it, a couple of different blues because of the dyes. They didn’t dye it correctly.

Now, a normal person would just see a blue shirt, but I would see maybe a couple of strands of cotton there, or Rayon, that was a little different.

So it’s not throwing them off tremendously.

David: So are you saying that the number of different unique colors . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . that these people can see is more than average?

Emery: Yes, absolutely.

David: By how much?

Emery: Well, I know they can see up to 10 different wavelengths of just one color. And I’ve heard of 20.

David: Wow!

Emery: So that’s a lot to break down one color. And that’s, like I told you, that was second-hand information.

David: So you’re saying that there would be some . . . that they can still somehow detect things that would be underground, like a gold vein underground?

Emery: Because of the flora and the plants and the rocks . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . all emanate from the gold reservoir down there. It seeps up and gives it this special energy. And this energy is then emanated into the atmosphere, kind of like orgonite can control things in the sky, the energy that it gives off.

David: Well, that’s one of the things that’s so interesting is this idea of Wilhelm Reich, when he was working with orgone energy, apparently started to develop a bluing of his skin.

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Emery: Hm!

David: And he often associated orgone energy with a bluish light.

Emery: Ha, ha.

David: In fact, I have multiple episodes on this in “Wisdom Teachings”, my other show, where he’s finding life spontaneously forming with what he calls bions.

And the bions appear as these little blue corpuscles that seemingly come out of nothing and then coalesce into proteins and biological matter.

Emery: Sure.

David: So if that is the essence of life, then is there some connection between gold and biological life?

Emery: Well, it’s not just gold. Orbitally rearranged monatomic elements is what you want to look at.

You want to look at the elements that we’re made up of when we are brought into this world as a baby.

We never get those elements ever again from our food or our water. These are palladium and rhodium and iridium, you know, and all these different types of elements that are the trace elements that we need in our DNA to evolve.

David: Right.

Emery: So, of course, there’s many places that make ORMEs. You know, you’ve got to be careful.

David: Well, I remember hearing that rhodium . . . If you capped the DNA molecule with rhodium, it becomes far more electrically conductive than . . .

Emery: Absolutely.

David: Right.

Emery: So I’m a big, strong believer in ORMEs. I take it pretty much every day, zeolite too. These things help with aligning the DNA for it to work correctly with the right voltage.

If it’s not the right voltage, we can’t really fix ourselves. If it’s not the right voltage, we can’t evolve beyond where we’re at now.

David: Let me just point this out too, which is that the research I’ve done into what you’re calling ORMEs, or orbitally rearranged monatomic elements, is that they are actually what some scientists call microclusters, meaning that, if you allow atoms to come out of a nozzle one at a time, they will preferentially cluster into these beautiful geometric, sacred geometry patterns, three-dimensional patterns like a cube, octahedron, dodecahedron, icosahedron.

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And the molecules will actually form into that. And somehow, once it has that structure, it’s much more electrically resistant on the outside, conductive on the inside, much harder, much more resistant to temperature, to wear.

It has all these amazing qualities, and it seems to nourish the body.

So why do you think the sacred geometry connection is so important?

Emery: Because that’s what we are made up of. That is THE smallest particles beyond the electron that we are made up of that allows us to actually, in some point in time, transdimensionally travel.

David: So you would confirm then, that part of the classified science is that when you get down to the real ground state of matter, that it is sacred geometry?

Emery: Absolutely, yes.

David: Right. Could you give me any further specifics of any briefing you might have had on that? What were you told exactly?

Emery: Well, we were dealing a lot with magnetic energy and magnets and permanent magnets and trying to do a lot of things with magnets and change the flux field, the north and south polarities.

And then using special equipment, zoom in after we changed these different shapes of magnets, not your normal north-south cube magnet, and change these angles, and then zoom in there and see: what is going on at that level of these two magnetic, permanent magnetic, energies coming together with different flux fields at different angles.

David: Hm.

Emery: And at that level, which has not been completed, is these shapes.

David: Geometries. Wow!

Emery: These sacred geometries.

David: Yeah.

Emery: So they believe by changing flux fields, they can actually open up portals. They can open up different energy for our DNA. They can help us heal. A lot of different things can happen.

But, you know, that’s still in that state of it’s not been proven.

David: You said before something to the effect of . . . that you feel perhaps higher-level extraterrestrials still have us under some kind of quarantine or management of some kind, that even if we got all this technology, it’s not like we could necessarily just do whatever we want. Could you explain that a little more?

Emery: Well, I mean, the extraterrestrials, they’re not going to just come on down here and give us everything for free, because we have to evolve on our own . . . you know, our own consciousness and treat each other well and not cut each other’s heads off and behave.

David: Right.

Emery: And then everyone always asks me about the evil aliens.

And I’m like, “Yeah! There’s evil aliens. And there’s good and bad aliens and all this.”

And they’re like, “What are the BAD ones like?”

I said, “Just go in the bathroom and look in the mirror.”

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: “Why is that?”

I said, “Because we’re killing each other. We’re not supposed to be killing each other.”

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: Ha, ha. Even though that’s a control thing. You know, we’re being controlled to do these things.

So that being said, because of our misbehaving sometimes, you know . . . And they were here before, too. They were like us. They evolved from out of what we are now, too.

And they have come back from the past, you know, Rendlesham Forest. They’ve come back from the past to visit and come out of that pyramid . . .

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. . . and witnessed by what, 33, over 100 people, I think, or 33 people.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And the message was, “Stop what you’re doing with all these nukes, because we’re your children’s children’s children’s children’s children’s children. And if you keep doing this, we’re not going to exist, . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . which is interesting because that means there’s no time. And now you’re going to be like getting screwed around in your head thinking about that.

But basically, there IS no time. And time is just something that we made up to survive here in the 3D. And there’s many other different dimensions.

And we’re learning how to travel interdimensionally safely.

David: What might some of the limitations be that certain ETs would impose on us right now that would restrict our total freedom?

Like, what would be some of the things that if we tried to do it that we wouldn’t succeed, or that we would be blocked?

Emery: Yeah, I think if we try to destroy more than 75% of the population of the Earth, they will intervene.

I think if we try to poison the Earth permanently, let’s say through Fukushima or our own accident, they will intervene.

So I think it’s things like this where, if it’s going to be a complete, mass de-populization, or we’re really killing more than 75% of humans or animals on the planet, including the oceans, that there will be definite intervention.

Of course, if any type of nuclear missile or backpack, or whatever it is, is activated that would destroy more than 75% of the population of the Earth, they will intervene.

So not to say one would, but all it takes is one of those to go off and contaminate the atmosphere, and we’re going to have a rough 50 years.

David: Well, it also seems like there’s a lot of other people living here besides us, maybe not on the surface, but they’re definitely here.

Emery: That’s right.

David: And they don’t want THEIR land to be damaged either.

Emery: That is correct, yes. So there’s other extraterrestrial beings that live within the Earth. There’s also ancient beings that have lived here forever, not extraterrestrial, but they’ve just been here, probably since the dawn of time, the Inner Earth beings.

And that’s something we could talk about on a different show.

David: Sure. Now, when you mentioned these traversable aquifers under the oceans, or under the continents, one of the things I was reminded of was a briefing that Corey got, something he actually saw, which was these massive halls, kind of flat on the bottom, rounded off at the top, VERY, very large, underwater, that you could actually sail a submarine through . . .

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. . . and that they were very straight and went over very long distances, and that apparently, some of our guys used one of those to get to Antarctica from further up north.

I’m wondering if you’ve heard about buildouts of tunnels?

Emery: Yes. They’re man-made though. They are not . . . They weren’t made by the Earth.

David: Well, they are ancient though. They’re not made by OUR humans, right, because that’s Corey’s . . .

Emery: Right. That’s what I’m saying.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Yeah.

Emery: Yeah, there’s . . .

David: That’s what he meant, yeah.

Emery: There’s caverns that they’ve found in North America and Mexico that go straight through the Earth towards Antarctica.

And those caverns have been modified. I don’t know by who or when, but they’ve been modified into lava tubes, like perfect, large, football field-size tubes that these submarines and other modes of transportation . . . very high-speed by the way, in these waterways. It’s its own traffic.

That does go not only to Antarctica but all the way back around.

David: Back around to where?

Emery: To the same spot.

David: To the Americas?

Emery: Yeah.

David: Hm.

Emery: Without getting near the core.

David: Do they have any idea when they were built or by who?

Emery: I don’t know the history of it. I just know they exist, through satellite imagery and through radar and through briefings.

David: And these tunnels that are the larger ones that go to Antarctica, are they all submerged in water, or are some of them just voids that are in the land that have air?

Emery: They are small parts of tunnels that go to cavern to cavern to cavern, but they all are connected to a cavern . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . and they are all full of water.

David: Oh!

Emery: Yep.

David: And the caverns are full of water too?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. Yeah, it’s a giant aquifer, like I was telling you, that’s connected. And I think because of these tunnels, that there’s been infiltration to all the aquifers of the planet.

David: One of the briefings I got from Pete Peterson recently was that some elements of the Alliance are worried about the habitability of the surface of the Earth, and that they’ve started pumping out some of these very large caverns underground to be able to have more space for people when they will need it, and that one of the side effects has been that all these weird creatures that shouldn’t exist are washing up on the shoreline.

And I’m wondering if you’ve heard anything about that particular plan or that operation?

Emery: I do know about the build-out of caverns, 100%. That’s true.

And the pumping out of these caverns and sealing them off, that’s true.

As far as the beings coming up from Inner Earth, or something like that, I don’t doubt it, because there are inner atmospheres in the Earth with their own lifeforms that have never been discovered or told to the population.

So it’s very possible that, in a cavern that has its own spring, that one of these things came up from its own world and then made it to the surface.

David: Right.

Emery: And not only that, every day, they’re discovering in the oceans a new form of plankton and bacteria and things like that. Like, every day, they’ve made discoveries. And every day we’re also having a loss of life of different species.

So it’s interesting that right now, especially the things that are coming down from space, . . . You know, we have these giant satellites in space that just collect. It’s like a giant air filter. And they send these things up, and they come back down.

Or they will send the weather balloons up, and they get all filled up. And they have these amazing new bacteria that’s never published . . .

David: Very cool.

Emery: . . . that is from space. And just like we were talking about that water bear guy . . . What’s that guy called?

David: Tardigrade.

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Emery: Tardigrade. They live in the vacuum of space, and they come back and they’re fine.

David: Still alive.

Emery: These are amazing things. And I was part of some of those projects, too, where they were trying to find out how we could be like that.

David: Right.

Emery: I’d rather keep the body.

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: Ha, ha.

David: Well, even though you said there’s no time, we are out of time in this episode

Emery: Oh, okay.

David: So come back next time.

Emery: All right. Well, thanks for having me.

David: Thank you. And thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Emery Smith.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Confirming Underground Civilizations

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Emery Smith. And in this episode, we’re going to start talking about underground civilizations.

Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Thank you, David. Glad to be here.

David: In the past, you’ve talked to me about a very interesting technology that apparently can see quite a bit more below the surface of the Earth than what our conventional scientists would think is possible. So could you talk a little bit about that first?

Emery: Yes, sure. I mean, it all started using satellites, of course, looking into the oceans.

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Of course, the astronauts also while orbiting, would look into the oceans and see these crashed, old wreckages and ships that they knew, of course, had a lot of gold in them.

And treasure hunters also started dealing with the inside governments to buy time on these amazing satellites that could see these things.

David: So this is not something that conventional people have access to?

Emery: No.

David: This is an insider thing?

Emery: It’s an insider thing. There are a couple of organizations that DO own satellites, or private corporations that use them for looking into walls to see if they’re infested, in foreign countries, with, like, insects and bugs, believe it or not.

So they can see, actually, inside a wall from a satellite and see what kind of bug it is and tell you what kind of bug it is.

So that has now been advanced to look into the ground, a little bit.

David: Hm.

Emery: But they HAVE developed a special radar, now. It’s a ground penetrating, low frequency, back-scattered wave pattern device, which gives you a volumetric image that’s about 400 times better than a CAT scan.

So you can actually see what it is, and you can also tell what type of material it is, which is very helpful.

Let’s say in Saudi Arabia, for the kings there, if they have a backpack bomber running down their driveway, they could just basically fly the drone over it or shoot the wave at them, and they know how much explosives he has in his backpack before he even, you know, gets near the compound.

David: Wow!

Emery: So this type of device has been used by the military and for the DoD [Department of Defense].

I can’t say who has this or, you know . . . but it is privately owned.

David: One question, real quick. So we have the periodic table of the elements. We’re up to 120 something.

Emery: Right.

David: Are there certain elements that you can’t see with this? Or how does that work?

Emery: If it’s not elements that have already been discovered, you will not know what is . . . the wave that comes back will be unknown, or unknown from Earth.

David: Right. But as far as the rest of the periodic . . .

Emery: Everything is logged into this.

David: Really?

Emery: Like a rife machine with frequencies, they have done the same thing with this device.

David: Wow!

Emery: So they have measured EVERY type of element that there is and have measured how that frequency comes back.

That’s why they can build, not only a volumetric image, but actually tell you exactly what it is.

A good . . . One of the great things about this device is: I can put it on a drone, fly out to an oil tanker – and this is the test we did – and in one of those giant tankers that holds hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil, we could put a small amount of uranium inside a sealed box, inside a 55-gallon oil drum, drop it to the bottom of this tanker, and fly this drone over 10 miles before it even gets into port, and it will tell you exactly where that uranium is, and what it is, and where on the ship it is.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s THAT detailed. So it’s a very amazing, useful, protective thing we have, that I hope many people listen to this . . . and I hope the, you know, . . . POTUS kind of knows about it, but doesn’t know about it kind of thing.

David: Uh-huh.

Emery: And I think this would help him in the fight against terror, because this way it will scan everything, and you will know everything before it even happens.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s a very . . . So when we were hired, my team, to go out to look for, in an undisclosed location of the United States of America, to go remote view an area that has been known – it has been getting these hits of a possible gold reservoir – we went out and met with these scientists and this amazing team. And they were looking for a special treasure, I’ll say. And I can get into that later, but the thing is, they were looking for a special treasure.

They hired a colleague, a couple colleagues of mine, and myself, to go out there and to first lay the flags on the mountain where WE thought it was.

And we were . . .

David: Yeah, and let me just say, Emery, that for . . . You folks watching this don’t know this, but you and I do. I actually got to talk to your team.

Emery: Right.

David: So this was not just something that I’m hearing from you now.

Emery: That’s true.

David: And it was something we were very involved in for a while.

Emery: Yes, you were. Yes, absolutely.

So what had happened is: we went out there, we laid down the flags, they ran this special radar over it, and we were 99.9% effective. So we . . .

David: In what?

Emery: In finding out where the gold was at.

David: So there was a large amount of gold . . .

Emery: A large amount of gold. They were after . . . these treasure hunters that were working with the government, I believe. Maybe, maybe not.

David: Right.

Emery: That’s a speculation. So . . .

David: But the really cool part of the story . . .

Emery: The really cool part of the story is a scientist called me in that developed this system – an amazing person – and my team in, and sat us down, a few of us, and said . . . you know, showed us this giant void underneath the Earth where . . . way deep below the gold.

And we were like, “Well, what’s this giant hollow space here? And what is that giant pyramid?”

And he said, “How did you . . . How did you know about that? How did you . . . Did you go through my files?”

I said, “No, but we saw it when we remote viewed it.”

And I said, “Well, why didn’t you write that in your report?”

He says, “Because it came back unknown elements, and I’m only out here to do one thing, and that’s to find . . . to confirm the gold.”

David: Oh, my goodness.

Emery: And I said, “This is the most amazing, groundbreaking thing on the planet.”

And he’s like, “Yeah, well, with my device, I can see all the way through the Earth and see everything in the Earth. So just think what I have already seen, and what am I going to do with this information?”

This was the same technology they used to find the tunnels in Mexico that were coming through the borders. They used THIS technology.

And the Mexican cartel actually put a hit out for this man because they found out, because the government was already infiltrated as well.

So even though he saved U.S. . . . You know, bless this man that he had helped and came to the forefront and saved U.S. with his technology. He also almost got killed for it.

So we found not only that, but we also found a lot of other interesting things.

And the pyramids there were like 10 times the size of Giza.

David: Wow!

Emery: So it was a very big void, here, in North America. Yeah. A very large, large area, and a large aquifer kind of surrounding it.

David: Hm.

Emery: And its own atmosphere. And he can measure atmospheric pressure, too, which was interesting. So with this device, he can do so many different things.

So there are civilizations, I can confirm, that have their own atmosphere, their own luminescence, their own life, and their own water supply, that are deep within the Earth.

David: Well, you also had mentioned to me, when we talked about this before, that there were some, I believe, cubicle rooms that you guys found, that didn’t have any entrances or exits.

Emery: That was the very interesting thing. The back-scatter radar, low-frequency radar, actually showed cubes – these giant cubed rooms and small cubed rooms of emptiness – that were perfectly cut.

We measure using . . . We can measure exactly to the millimeter how big these rooms are, and how small they are, and they were cut like perfect cubes.

And this bedrock . . . We’re talking about 1,000 feet down to 3,500 feet down. And it’s like, how on Earth are these cubes down there, you know, near this area, by the way?

And maybe there IS something inside those cubes, but we don’t have the technology to see it or to analyze it, because it just comes back as unknown.

And one of the elements that we discovered – that is why we were called in – and some of the things they found down there was a huge reservoir of pure white gold.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: White gold, not meaning the gold that is mixed with metal today, like white gold on your chains. We’re talking about from ancient civilization, white gold, the powder, you know, the manna. The manna that you hear about.

David: Right. And you had said, when we were talking about the smart suits, that there was a white gold fuel that would create antigravity in the smart suit.

Emery: That is correct.

David: Is it the same type of stuff?

Emery: Yeah. And it was interesting, because the government . . .

David: I mean, this was very fascinating.

Emery: . . . the government moved right in and bought pretty much all the property up until this part of this land, which is a really great confirmation.

David: Right.

Emery: You know.

David: I also remember you showing me some of the volumetric imaging of what clearly appeared to be a stairwell that had been back-filled.

Emery: Yes.

David: So could you talk about that?

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Emery: Yes, we found giant stairwells underneath the ground in these giant, huge voids. We’re talking hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of acres that go on for thousands of miles. And these are not just caverns.

They’re caverns, but they’re also something different about them, because there are certain parts of the caverns that you can’t make it up, where there’s actual steps, you know, steps going thousands of feet down – perfect steps.

David: Right.

Emery: And we did find the outlines of craft and also a large sarcophagi.

David: So do you think these were giant humans of some kind?

Emery: Yes. They are about 30’~33′ tall.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: So, that’s the older stuff, for sure.

Emery: Yes. But we did find something on the radar that was really cool, too, and that was in the middle of the aquifer was a large, large rock that did not look like it was connected to the mainland. And it was just there. And I’m talking a few miles, you know, this . . . Imagine water going over the boulder . . .

David: Like a boulder, a massive boulder?

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Emery: . . . right, and the boulder was hollow and did have a type of ruins in it.

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David: Oh, wow.

Emery: Right. And one of the reasons that we needed the suits was actually to drill and then go through the aquifer with the suits and then drill into that. But the problem is we didn’t want to flood it.

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We couldn’t find out a way how not to flood the giant egg, because that would wash away all the white gold.

David: The white gold was inside the egg?

Emery: In that egg, yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And it was all submerged?

Emery: Yes.

David: So how would your smart suit help you to get into the egg? Could you just bore through it with the suit or something?

Emery: Yeah, there’s a way that you could bring equipment and bore through it, but you couldn’t . . . The thing is we wanted to find out if there was an air cavity somewhere around it, because for some reason, we couldn’t find that.

So . . . But there was a part of the rock that was close to the surface of Earth that was touching. So we figured, you know . . . and once we did drill through, water started coming out. And it was only three feet to the giant rock.

So you have billions of pounds of water coming through this little hole you just dug down deep into the Earth to get into this egg.

And now you have three feet preventing you from getting into the egg. So how do you . . .

So what we decided was: let’s bring down billions of gallons of liquid nitrogen, freeze that part of the aquifer, then drill through it, and then go in.

David: Oh! Do you think this egg was actually, maybe, some kind of hollowed out asteroid, and they could have phase shifted it and landed it inside the Earth?

Emery: I think that at one time it was an asteroid, and that somehow it was formed to the Earth, probably through molten lava or something.

And over millions of . . . just over years, the water somehow broke it off from the Earth. And now it’s just kind of in this area surrounded by three feet of water.

And we’re talking about a very highly pressurized area.

David: Now wait a minute. An asteroid would have come from the Solar System. So are you saying you think it formed in the Earth?

Emery: Well, I think it came a long time ago. People found this as a safe haven.

David: Oh, it was a crashed asteroid to the Earth, . . .

Emery: Right. Right.

David: . . . from ancient times, and it’s a massive boulder, basically, inside the Earth that they found and could hollow out.

Emery: Right. It was probably . . . It could have . . . Right. They probably hollowed it out, or it could have been hollowed out. And then for hundreds and hundreds or thousands of years, people were just putting their treasures in there and their safe stuff, through a very long time.

David: Wow!

Emery: And then, I think now, it’s just a . . . Earth itself has just consolidated it in a place where it’s very, very difficult to get to.

David: I mean, you’re being sort of intriguingly vague when you say “ruins” and “civilization”. Could you be a little more specific about what’s inside the egg? What does it look like? What would we see if we got to ever see this some day?

Emery: Well, in that egg are those steps that we talked about.

David: Oh!

Emery: So we do have the volumetric imaging for that.

David: Wow!

Emery: So there are steps leading down into this giant cavity. And the problem is the water getting in there.

Now to get into more of what is exactly in there, I already told you there is a craft. There’s a sarcophagi. And that’s what I was talking about was this cavity.

David: Okay. And this was some kind of race of giants, then?

Emery: Yeah, at one time.

David: Right.

Emery: But over time, I think, people thought this was a special place.

And also inside this giant asteroid, or whatever it is, . . . I’m not sure if it’s an asteroid, just so you know, because when the back-scatter things come back, we get a lot of different minerals there and different things. And we didn’t see a huge amount of iron, but it’s just weird that this thing is a giant, hollowed out rock in the middle of the aquifer.

David: Yeah.

Emery: It’s kind of just intriguing. This is just speculation that it is an asteroid . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . we think, maybe, maybe not.

And so inside this, we have seen many remains of humans – over 300 remains of humans.

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David: Wow!

Emery: We have seen also armor. We’ve seen, of course, caches of gold the world’s largest barge could not even hold.

David: Wow!

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Emery: To the side of this giant area, which is very high, as well, . . . Inside it’s split up. So it’s not just like one big giant area. You have other areas.

Like I said, the cubes, also, are around the outside of that and on the inside of this thing. So there’s solid parts inside this egg. Let’s call it “the Egg”.

And inside that are many different types of tunnels, and hollowed out areas, and pyramids, and sarcophagi, and craft, and other things.

David: Is there anything unusual about the skeletons besides maybe their size?

Emery: Well, the armor and the pots that we have seen full of gold are the same ones they’ve used back around the Knights Templar era.

David: Really?

Emery: So we have a good feeling that this is where possibly the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail and 1,700 tablets, stone tablets, are there.

David: So you think it’s possible that the Knight Templar people might have known about this, perhaps, through who knows what – ancient texts or surviving extraterrestrials they were in contact with – they actually . . .

Emery: Well, I can tell you how they knew about it.

David: How did they know?

Emery: There is a small percentage of humans who can see in a special blue light spectrum. And for some reason, this gold emanates through the Earth and foliage, and they can see this hue. They have this special ability.

You could probably . . . I’ve never read about it online. I’ve just been debriefed about it in the military.

And people like this are used to find huge gold reservoirs and also do other things around the world to help America and keep it safe.

And they have, through satellites, found a ping in this particular area of North America. And back then, the Indians and the people over . . . even if you are in Europe, and they could see over the horizon this blue exact hue. So they would sail all the way to this place, find the gold, get the gold, and they were very successful.

So they kept going, and, finally, they landed in Corpus Christi, one of the ships from the Knights Templar.

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We believe that they trekked in somewhere up into North America, which I can’t disclose, and then buried it in this area that already had the world’s largest gold reservoir, . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: . . . because they thought this would be the safest place.

David: Very interesting.

Emery: Because they were worried that during the war, that they better move . . . the Sinclair family took all the money and helped pay for the ships, and the Templars helped them.

And the Templars stayed to protect the gold till death.

David: One of the other things I’ve heard that I think is really important to bring up right now is: several insiders have talked about the Sahara Desert, the northern third of Africa.

And it’s all a big desert now, but they have all said that if you go anywhere between 40 to 400 feet down in that sand, that it is just amazing, and it’s everywhere – massive ruins of a civilization.

Emery: Ruins. Uh-huh.

David: Have you heard about this?

Emery: I have heard about this.

David: Okay. What do you know about it?

Emery: All I know is they did that with a ground penetrating radar from a satellite. It was very simple because it wasn’t deep.

And things that are not too deep, they can actually see through a certain amount, especially sand. It’s harder with bedrock.

There ARE some anomalies right there that have exactly what you just said.

I heard that . . . That’s not second-hand information. I overheard that while I was in a briefing that had to do with something else over in that country.

David: How prevalent do you think these voids of cubicle rooms are? Like, you only looked at one place. Do you think that most of the places we look, we might find that kind of stuff?

Emery: I think this is a significant area. And just so you know, this IS hundreds and hundreds of square miles of area that we have checked out. It’s not just like one certain area. But that’s a very small part of the planet, is what I’m getting at.

David: Okay.

Emery: And there was significant enough data there to prove that there was a civilization there, and it is connected to other civilizations and other tunnels, and that the major aquifers underground are all connected, which is very scary, which we NEVER did know about.

So if the water does get contaminated, let’s say in Wisconsin, or in North Dakota, South Dakota, eventually over many, many, many, many years, all of it could be contaminated.

So there is an underwater system of travel, as well, . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . that links all these things.

David: We’ve heard from certain insiders that there is a traversable underwater channel that can go from the west coast of the United States all the way to Nebraska, and that there’s a significant military base there, and that’s part of how they access it, is underwater.

Emery: Oh, yes. That’s true. I mean, the military’s been going from the east and west coast using the aquifers for a very long time.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: Wow!

Emery: I like the Naval sea base that’s in the middle of Nevada there. What’s that one called you drive by on the way to Vegas, or whatever?

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David: Yeah. John Lear said that was a submarine repair base.

Emery: Yes, yes. I know the Lear family. It’s absolutely true.

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And it’s like a stopping station, and it does go all the way across. I don’t have the map for that, but I definitely 100% know it goes all the way across, because there was a secret study done using special dyes that they used. And that’s some . . . A group went in there, a private organization, and tainted the water, and the water off San Diego, with these special molecules – very organic; couldn’t hurt anything.

And then it was about a few weeks later they did collect them in the Atlantic Ocean.

So it’s definitely . . . has a . . . some sort of a throughway through that entire place.

David: Would you say that even people serving on like a nuclear sub might be using these routinely?

Emery: Yes, I believe so. And also a lot of clandestine stuff is . . . that are being used for.

And there’s bases, also, on the way, there that are underground.

David: Now, I want to get into this a little bit because you had some really interesting stuff to say about how this weird technology was first developed.

Emery: The technology we were talking about earlier with a low-frequency ground penetrating radar also can be used . . . you know, it can actually be fit inside an iPhone.

David: Really?

Emery: And you can place this on your hand or on your chest, and it’ll show you your hand. And you can zoom in all the way to the actual cell and say, “All right. I have three cells here next to him. This one’s metastatic. I mean, this is a cancer cell. This is a tissue cell,” and then zap it.

And now you’ve just cured your self of cancer.

So it’s that . . . the resolution on this device is THAT amazing.

David: Hm!

Emery: So you can actually just put it on your hand and then zoom right in to the cell itself and move around.

David: Wow! That’s great.

Emery: It is beautiful – the most beautiful technology ever. And it’s available. It’s just sitting there.

I’m hoping that this talk will inspire the inventor and POTUS to step up on that, because not only is it a great security thing for the world, but it’s also a good thing for health. It’s an amazing, beautiful thing to help . . . You could heal yourself.

David: And I assume that this . . . whatever energy it uses, is not radioactive or harmful?

Emery: No, it’s not. Correct.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: Now, I think you had me on the phone with the inventor at one point, . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . and he just about screwed my head off explaining how this technology got developed in the first place – the essence of metals or materials in the periodic table, and how it sees that.

Do you remember any of that stuff . . . what he said, because I’m having trouble remembering? It was a very complex technical discussion.

Emery: Yeah, I mean, there’s only, as far as I know, one, two, three people, including me, that know how the system operates and actually works. And I’m not at liberty to really talk about that out loud, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . for many reasons, also safety for everyone else on the planet. If it gets in the wrong hands, too, you have to be careful.

So it’s just like other amazing energy devices and stuff, and portals, and antigrav, and stuff. Everything comes with also a risk, and this inventor knows that very well.

And this inventor was saved from another country and is now a U.S. citizen and wants to help U.S. first, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . and protect U.S. and protect him and his family. And he’s . . . The poor guy has been through heck, of course.

But like I said, the only thing I can tell you is it uses a very, very low frequency – back-scattered wave, we call it – pattern.

David: Right.

Emery: And it shoots back these algorithms. And then he’s the only one that has the program. And only two other people that I know . . .

David: Yeah. I remember you telling me something funny about how . . . like, the government has to come to him . . .

Emery: Yeah.

David: . . . because he’s the only guy that has it. So could you talk a little bit about how . . . what was his relationship with the government as the inventor of this technology?

Emery: They’re very upset that they will not . . . that he will not sell this invention, because he is waiting for the Cabal to be destroyed before giving it to POTUS or giving it to the right hands. Because he is worried that we’re still not stable yet.

So he’s VERY aware that we’re still children and not . . . wouldn’t be able to handle this.

But he DID use it for the Mexican tunnels and some other amazing clandestine projects to protect America.

And there’s a lot of things going on that people don’t realize . . . inside information, like backpack nuclear bombs, you know, coming up through Mexico, and things like that.

This product would immediately be able to pinpoint these things hundreds of miles before they even get here, and so we could take precautionary methods that these nukes and things do not make it through our borders.

And that’s what the team and the military and POTUS are working on. And they’re not allowed to talk about that, because they don’t want to scare the American people – you know, why he’s building a wall, or who is doing . . . why is the military out to sea at this area?

And it’s hard for them to bring this to the people because if the enemy knows that you know, then they’re going to change everything around.

It’s at a level now where it’s just who you know, and what the device is going to be used for.

As you know, this scientist has no interest in billions of dollars. He’s more worried about the safety of the United States citizens.

David: Right.

Emery: And he wants to make sure when he does turn this over, that . . . and he has to be there at every shooting, you know, every . . . When we scan the ground, he has to be the one doing it, of course.

David: All right. Well, there’s so many questions here. So we’ll have to pick this up again next time.

Thank you, Emery. And thank you for watching. I’m David Wilcock. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”, with our special guest, Emery Smith.


Cosmic Disclosure: Briefings with a New Alliance

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. I’m here with Corey Goode. And in this episode, we’re going to discuss the fascinating return of the Secret Space Program Alliance [SSP Alliance].

Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So let’s take it forward then from what you had here in our previous episode. What is the next noteworthy thing that happens to you after this awesome series of visitations that you experienced?

Corey: Typically, after I have an experience like that, I spend days just sitting and staring at the wall trying to process it all.

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I was kind of going through that process when I was informed that I was going to have a meeting with Gonzales and the SSP Alliance on the LOC [Lunar Operation Command].

David: Oh!

Corey: And, if you remember, they had been keeping their head pretty low for a while, and they had gone through the trouble to make me feel responsible for the near collapse of the SSP Alliance.

If you remember, Sigmund was picking me up and chemically interrogating me to find out what was going on because he was a part of the MIC Secret Space Program [ Military-Industrial Complex SSP] . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . and didn’t believe any of this other stuff was going on. He just didn’t believe it.

David: Yeah.

Corey: And then once he did his investigation, he found out that it WAS real, and he started causing problems, and then he just disappeared off the face of the Earth.

David: So how did it feel when you heard that the SSP Alliance is reforming?

Corey: I was a bit nervous. I didn’t know what to expect.

I knew that they were going to want a full briefing of all the different things I’d encountered.

David: Right.

Corey: So I was really still processing those. I wasn’t really in a place to give a briefing, but I was going to have to, anyway.

David: So this is right around the time that you had, kind of, moved in to your new place and had been able to settle down.

Was there any relationship between that move and some of the things that started to happen to you at this point?

Corey: Well, very quickly after I moved in, in October, I took my son around and did some “trick or treating” [Halloween evening] to kind of gather a little intel on neighbors.

And the people directly across the street from me, the man and the woman, both, were retired CIA. They were geologists that did some sort of satellite interpretation, you know, for the CIA.

David: Retired CIA.

Corey: Yeah.

David: Right across the street!

Corey: Right. And then . . .

David: That’s petty crazy.

Corey: . . . he started telling me, “Yeah, the lady next to you retired from NOAA . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.”

David: Yeah.

Corey: “The person over there is retired military. This whole area . . . there are a lot of retired Air Force and intelligence assets.”

And that freaked me out. And I brought that up to Gonzales the next time.

And he told me that indeed that was true, and that all around my neighborhood, they had installed all types of very sensitive detection devices that would detect any type of electrical change in the atmosphere – any types of changes.

David: Well, who is “they”?

Corey: Military intelligence. They were trying to figure out what was going on with me.

David: Okay. So does that include trying to catch something happening to you like the Blue Sphere picking you up [Corey nods his head “yes”.], or the Darts landing [Darts are small craft used by the SSP Alliance]?

Corey: Or me being teleported out. When that occurs, there’s some sort of weird energetic signature that they are able to track with these devices.

Also, if any craft were to come and pick me up, they would be able to gather telemetry on the craft.

David: Well, some of the things that you and I have discussed privately have made me pretty compelled in thinking that the Earth Alliance is now taking you a lot more seriously than they were.

Corey: Yes.

David: And would you agree with that?

Corey: A lot more seriously, but they’re very skeptical of anything involved with the Secret Space Program.

David: Do you think, though, that they are starting to feel more compelled based on certain things that they’ve acquired?

Corey: Yes. And they were also trying to figure out how a guy who was talking about 8′-tall blue bird aliens was also coming out with all of this very accurate intel about what was going on in the MIC Secret Space Program.

David: Do you think, or do you know, if those devices that they’ve installed have actually hit pay dirt and gotten them something that they find very amazing?

Corey: I don’t know, because I was told the day of this meeting I needed to leave my home and drive to a local school and be prepared to be picked up in a football field.

David: Wow!

Corey: And that’s exactly what happened. It was around 2:00 am. in the morning. I got dressed, got in my car and left.

And I parked and waited for about 20 minutes beside this school, and sure enough, I saw . . . off in the distance, I saw a flash. And the it flashed again and it stayed on. It was like a white orb up in the sky.

And it was descending very rapidly and then started moving towards me and getting a little bit bigger.

And then as it got probably a quarter mile away, it was like the light popped like a bubble. If you blow a bubble and pop it.

David: Oh, that must have been so cool.

Corey: Yeah, it was very cool. It popped and there was a Dart craft . . .

David: Really!

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Corey: . . . that I had ridden in before.

David: About the size of a regular car like you would see?

Corey: Yes. About the size of a . . . a little bit bigger than an SUV.

David: Right. Wow!

Corey: It came and it landed. I had quite a distance to hoof. It wasn’t real close to my car. But I’m looking all around, looking for any types of cars or aircraft lying around and it was just dead still.

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I sit in and they tell me, “Sit back; buckle up. We’re headed to the LOC”.

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We lift off, and I see the Moon as we’re headed towards it. And the Moon looks about like this big [Corey makes a circle shape with his fingers of both hands touching each other.], and then all of a sudden – Whew!

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I mean, it grew so quickly, so fast, that it looked like we were going to smash into it.

David: Did you have a feeling of motion?

Corey: Kind of a feeling of motion. I mean, you see the Moon and all of a sudden, the Moon looks like it grows just super fast. “Vrooooo!” And then, all of a sudden, you’re like . . . you can’t see the circumference of the Moon anymore. You’re so close.

They flew back around the back side of the Moon.

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And we did two or three flyovers of the crater that the LOC is in, except we couldn’t see it.

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They had the masking technology activated.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: So it just looked like a crater. I mean, you couldn’t even see the secondary crater, the hole in the bottom of the crater. It was all covered up.

David: Was there anything kind of glitchy about it, or did it look really clean?

Corey: It looked really clean.

David: Wow!

Corey: I was told that it had kind of a mirage effect, but it looked pretty clean to me.

David: Wow!

Corey: And so they were communicating, getting permission to land, and then the masking was turned off and I could see the base.

8 LOC Base In The Crater

And I could see green lights, red lights, white lights, some flashing, some stationary.

And we flew around, up and over, and down in this secondary crater hole that’s in the middle of this crater that the LOC is in.

9 Dart Entering Secondary Crater

And we flew down through it . . .

David: So the crater was just open?

Corey: Yeah. It’s just a hole.

David: A chute?

Corey: It’s kind of a hole that goes down, almost like a sinkhole, . . .

David: Okay.

Corey: . . . then it opens up into a lava tube cavern.

David: But was there a lunar surface looking underneath it so that if you didn’t actually get really close, it would just look like a crater?

Corey: No, it just looked dark.

David: Right. Okay.

Corey: Dark, like a hole. We head into that and immediately, I see the part of the LOC I’ve seen before, the part that’s kind of like a bell shape going down into the rock.

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David: There’s a cavern around the bell shape?

Corey: Yeah, it’s a cavern that the bell shape was built into.

David: Oh!

Corey: Like the middle. It looked like it went all the way through, and then the bell shape was built that kind of blocked it.

David: Interesting. Okay.

Corey: There were two main hangar ports. One was for exiting craft. One is for entering craft.

11 Dart Entering LOC

We entered in. We went and landed in one of the areas to where we disembarked. The pilots immediately went down some stairs, and Gonzales greeted me.

He was wearing an Air Force dress uniform.

David: Hm.

Corey: And I looked at him, and I said, “We’re back to that old charade, huh?”

And he got a look on his face like, “Shut up! Shut up!” You know? So, I kind of . . .

David: Why would the Air Force be a charade?

Corey: Because he was Navy.

David: Oh!

Corey: And he, throughout the Secret Space Program Alliance, he was pretending to be Air Force.

David: Oh, interesting.

Corey: And I had given that information already in intelligence briefings to the public, so I didn’t understand why he was wearing the Air Force clothing.

David: Okay. Yeah. Interesting.

Corey: So we met a female that was wearing Air force clothing. She introduced herself to us and said that she was going to be our escort for the remainder of our visit.

David: Now, were these jumpsuits as you’ve said before?

Corey: No, she was dressed in an Air Force dress uniform.

David: Okay.

Corey: You know, had her hair kind of back and tucked, and tied. And it looked like Air Force dress.

David: Just regular Earth Air Force uniform?

Corey: Um-mm.

David: Okay.

Corey: She takes us immediately into an elevator. And we get in the elevator, and it starts going . . . It goes VERY quickly down. It goes very quickly down.

I couldn’t count floors or do any type of intel.

David: And then what happens?

Corey: So when the doors open, I knew that I had gone MUCH further down into the LOC than I had EVER been permitted prior, or at least remember.

And when the doors opened, I was expecting to see all kinds of magic, and I was immediately disappointed. It was corridors and doors, was all I saw. So . . .

David: Would you have been able to know you were on the Moon if you were just transported there?

Corey: No. No, you would not know the difference. You would not know if you were on Earth. You wouldn’t know.

David: Right. Okay.

Corey: So we were guided down a corridor to a room, and she knocked on the door at the same time as opening it. And when she did that, there was a conference table and what looked like a big window behind them. And the conference table was turned this way [Corey indicates the conference table is in front of him with him standing in the middle of a long side of the table.], and the window was this way [The window is opposite Corey on the other side of the conference table.]

And everyone at the table stood up – or almost everyone. Everyone that I could see stood up.

David: So what’s in the window?

Corey: The window . . . I see Mars. It looks like we’re on Mars.

David: Really?

Corey: And I was kind of perplexed. You know, the people are standing to greet me, and I’m like, “Are we on Mars now?” Because I’ve heard you give information about some insiders that they would ride an elevator, and then all of a sudden . . .

David: That’s right.

Corey: . . . they’re on another planet.

David: That’s right.

Corey: And I was wondering if that had just happened.

David: Yeah. They called it the corridor, and it was a teleportation device. Yeah.

Corey: Right. So I was a little confused.

And immediately, one of them turned and saw it and changed it to a moonscape.

David: HA! Ha, ha.

Corey: So, basically, from talking with Gonzales, a lot of times, people . . . If you’re working on a project, they’ll take you through a portal without you knowing, and you’ll be on the Moon or Mars.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: And they can show what looks like a convincing window of somewhere on Earth.

David: Wow!

Corey: So you would think you’re on Earth. Or if you’re on Earth, and they want you to THINK you’ve been to Mars, they can do it that way, as well.

David: Very interesting.

Corey: So I immediately looked around, and I recognized everyone there, everyone present. And I look over, and . . .

David: Recognized, meaning what? Like who were they?

Corey: The Secret Space Program Alliance officials that I had met before.

David: Oh! Okay.

Corey: They looked very uneasy. Like meeting Gonzales and I for the first time in this situation made them very uneasy. It wasn’t hard to read that.

David: To your knowledge, do these people ever come to Earth, or do they exclusively live in space, off planet?

Corey: Some of them, yeah, they do come to Earth, but most of them have been completely pulled away and segmented from any type of life going on on Earth.

They stood up – which is kind of the military thing to do, you know; when people come in the room, you stand up – and did a greeting with Gonzales and I. And like I said, they were nervous.

But as they were starting to sit back down at the end of the table, I saw Sigmund.

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David: Oh, really?

Corey: And Gonzales and I were both sort of shocked and perplexed to see him. I sort of blurt out without evening thinking.

I was like, “Wow! So this is where you’ve been?”

And I looked around . . . I glanced around real quick, because everyone was very uncomfortable still, and I said, “I’m kind of surprised to see you here after I told the SSP Alliance that I had the feeling that you were infiltrating.”

And he didn’t like that at all. He stood up and started frothing at the mouth.

He went from sitting there with a smirk on his face to standing up doing this [Corey points his right index finger down, up, down, up, repeatedly], saying, “You don’t know what all I’ve lost. I lost everything.”

And then he pointed his finger at me, and he said, “Intuitive empath, my ass!”

David: Hm.

Corey: And then everyone was real quiet.

David: What do you think he meant by, “I’ve lost everything”? What does that mean?

Corey: Later on, I heard he basically abandoned his family and everything here.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. He abandoned everything.

David: To join the SSP Alliance once he found out it was real?

Corey: Yeah.

David: So could you just again, very briefly, tell us: what was his role before and why is this important?

Corey: Yes. He was very high up in the Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program.

He was being charged to investigate what was going on with me with the leaking of highly-classified information.

David: And so just to clarify, the MIC program doesn’t know about the greater program that you were in.

Corey: Right. So I’m coming out with all these interesting tales along with classified information, and they were wanting to figure out what was going on. So he brought me in.

They were fairly sure I was a part of a program, and they put me through the paces to figure out if I was telling the truth or not.

They did forensic tests on me to see if I had been in the places I said I was.

And after finding out that what I was saying was true, or he could verify most of it, he soon broke away and joined the SSP Alliance.

And that’s pretty much how everyone had joined. They had, at some point, pulled away after they found out more information.

David: So it must have been really shocking for you to see him there, considering that in the past, he didn’t even believe that your Secret Space Program existed.

Corey: Right, but he’s still a skeptical guy. As the briefing continued, he showed his skepticism.

But after his outburst, there was kind of an awkward pause when someone on the opposite side of the table said, “How about we sit down so we can begin?”

So we all sat down and then the briefings began.

David: Okay, so what were the briefings?

Corey: They’re basically the briefings that I’ve been giving all of our viewers the last several episodes.

David: Oh! You were briefing them?

Corey: Uh-huh.

David: Really?

Corey: I was getting briefed as well. Gonzales and I were both getting a joint briefing. Most of that is classified still.

Gonzales gave his briefing, and a lot of it was classified, but a lot of it also had to do with the different beings that he was working with alongside the Mayans and the work they were doing.

I gave my complete briefing, and the moment I brought up the Super Federation and started to give the briefing, and I mentioned Teir-Eir, the Blue Avian, appearing, Sigmund sat back and threw his arms up and scoffed in disbelief.

David: After all that?

Corey: Yeah.

David: So why do you think he still would disbelieve if he’s actually discovered the SSP Alliance is real?

Corey: Well, I asked him. I said, “After everything you’ve seen, now that you’ve joined the SSP Alliance, you still don’t believe?”

And he said, “I’ve had technology used on me to where I don’t know if THIS is real.”

He said, “The technology that’s out there can make you see whatever it is they want you to see.”

He said, “I am fairly certain that the Nordics are screwing with our heads again.”

David: Hm.

Corey: And I was about to ask him, “What do you mean, ‘again’?”, when that same person at the other end of the table called us back to order.

David: Well, given the fact that you were put into, as you’ve described, virtual reality simulations in the MILAB program when you were a kid that you said were indistinguishable from reality, do you think he has a point? Do you think he could be right?

Corey: He absolutely has a point, because from his perspective, he’s been put through a lot of those technologies to a point where he doesn’t know what’s real half the time from what he was saying.

David: Right. But I would say, from all that you’ve described, that there are layers of this that make it very clear that it’s not just Nordics playing a game on you, that this is actually a real phenomenon with real beings.

Corey: Right. He went on to say, “Listen, I saw the video of the first meeting at the LOC where the Blue Avians and the Golden Triangle-Head being appeared.”

And he said, “I saw it, but I don’t believe it.” He refuses to believe it.

David: Is that a pretty forlorn opinion that most people don’t share? Is he kind of in an isolated role by feeling that way?

Corey: Well, all of the people that were there at the LOC meeting, that were there when the Blue Avian appeared, were pretty convinced that it was real as well.

So it was just that he had not . . . He was going from his previous experience.

David: Well, let’s talk about this for a second. If he believes, and he has reason to think that the Nordics have enough technology that they could make you see whatever they want, why couldn’t they, for example, project a President of the United States and just replace him or do all kinds of weird things to mess with our history?

Corey: There’s only so much they’re allowed to do, cosmic law-wise. But apparently, Nordic species have been involved with us ever since we’ve been here.

There are tales of angels, tales of beings appearing during the founding of the United States . . .

David: Right.

Corey: . . . that were described as being Nordic-looking. So they’ve been here with us all along.

I don’t understand though, quite yet, what he means by, “They’re playing with our heads again.”

David: But you were under the impression that most people did not believe him in that room.

Corey: Most of the people didn’t agree.

David: Right. So what happens next?

Corey: Basically, I finished up my report to them and then received around a dozen questions, as Gonzales did as well. He received several questions.

And then I was done with my part of the report.

David: So was there anything interesting that was said after you finished your briefing?

Corey: They brought up some of the plans that were in motion to disclose the MIC Secret Space Program.

David: Hm.

Corey: And one of these had to do with a conflict with North Korea – how they would bring to bear space-based weaponry and exotic aircraft.

David: Now, just so that we’re clear, what is the fully-awakened view of North Korea in terms of who is really responsible for what they’re doing and what is the agenda?

Corey: That’s a huge conversation in its own, but basically we can say it’s a Cabal puppet state.

David: Okay. So why then are they trying to nuke the U.S. or threatening to nuke the U.S.?

Corey: They always need a bad guy, the Cabal, to leverage against us. In this case, the Alliance is leading the military, the Military-Industrial Complex, SSP, as well. Most of it is now under Alliance control – Earth Alliance.

And they want to disclose this program from a place of strength. So they feel that if they use the weapons that they’ve been developing for decades on North Korea, that it will send a message to the rest of the world while at the same time releasing advanced technology to the public.

David: So they would actually intend for this to be filmed and seen and talked about on headlines all over the world?

Corey: Right. Just like when war broke out . . . I believe it was with Iraq when the Stealth Fighter and Bomber came out of secrecy.

David: Just because this has been so controversial on the Internet, I want to ask you this: What could the Cabal do to a country like North Korea to get them to poke their finger in the eye of the big bully on what would appear to be like a suicide mission?

In other words, they don’t really have hardly anything, but they’re acting as if they’re going to drop a nuke anyway.

How severe is this military threat that we would pose to them? Are we going to wipe out their entire country and turn it into glass? I mean, what is the scope of the attack, because a lot of people are really worried about this?

Corey: Right. Well, the scope of the attack, from what I’ve heard, is that we recently – SpaceX – launched a DoD [Department of Defense] device that is a sustained EMP [electromagnetic pulse device].

They’re going to use that over North Korea, hit it with an EMP, and then begin to drop some of the Rods from God – large, long, about telephone-sized tungsten beams that are coated in ceramic.

David: Okay.

Corey: It is planned that they’ll be dropped, and that then TR-3B-type craft will then come in and do surgical sorties.

And they’re going to try to take . . . not damage the infrastructure – what there is of infrastructure. They’re trying to go for low casualties.

David: Okay. So those tungsten rods that you just mentioned, are they like bunker busters? Are they able to get deep, underground military bases taken out?

Corey: Absolutely.

David: How could somebody convince Kim Jong-un to be doing this? I mean, the guy . . . He’s obviously not going to live through this.

How could the Cabal actually make this country pick such a huge fight that it knows it can’t win?

Corey: Well, we’re not talking about a country. We’re talking about one insane leader who they are able to manipulate.

David: So there might be blackmail involved or bribery or some other type of threat-coercion factor.

Corey: Right. In the course of this discussion, they brought up the Tom DeLonge effort of bringing out advanced technologies and in disclosure.

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David: Right.

Corey: And they’ve stated that he was working in tandem with the Air Force part of the MIC SSP, which is also the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency.

And as they started talking more about THAT program, and how they were doing it independently of ufology – they did not want to work with anyone in ufology – and I was curious about that, obviously, and they basically stated that ufology had been so infiltrated by Illuminati cults, by egotistical narcissists that really just are there to talk about their material and create UFO-type religions. It’s a mess.

And they say that if they want the, I guess, the rest of society to take this information seriously, they felt like it had to be done completely separate from what was going on in the ufology realms, which is disappointing.

David: Yeah. I mean, that’s kind of like fighting words. It’s you putting your gun on the table when you say that, really.

So how can we marginalize this whole community like that? That doesn’t seem really fair to say.

Corey: Well, it’s not fair, but they do have their points. There are a lot of problems in this community.

But if we want to be a part of it, we’re going to have to make a stand and just be a part of it by default.

David: Has there been a psychological profile of why they think people in our community are so ill-equipped to handle a genuine briefing or genuine disclosure?

Corey: Well, part of the problem is that the Military-Industrial Complex has been screwing with ufology for decades, feeding in misinformation, sending in operatives to cause fighting and infighting, sending in people with different narratives.

I mean, some of the Illuminati-type cults have been coming in with their religious narratives trying to cause us to adopt them, to make it to prime us for some day when they come up, they show us what’s going on in Antarctica and claim to be divine right rulers, that we will agree.

David: So I just want to get a little bit more direct in how I ask this of you.

Are you saying that there are certain people who would be recognizable figures in the UFO community who are actually working on a secret payroll and are having kind of a double-agent role in what they’re doing?

Corey: There have been instances of that since ufology began, absolutely.

David: Hm. So how would our audience know who to trust in light of that information? How should the person hearing this respond if they’re told that our entire community is in such a state of disarray right now?

Corey: Well, I guess we just need to begin to hold our UFO belief systems – we all have them – at arm’s length and start to focus on getting Disclosure.

None of us really know the real truth, but we all want it. So if we all focus on what we’re desiring as opposed to what we’ve created in our minds over the years, then we’ll find a way to work together.

Otherwise, we are just at each other’s throats. My information doesn’t match your information, therefore you must be the Devil. And it’s just a big mess.

But at the same time, there are a lot of really great people in the community, that if they come together, they will be able to be a MAJOR part of Disclosure.

David: So were there any other topics that you discussed at this meeting besides what we’ve already mentioned?

Corey: Actually, Sigmund kind of dropped a couple of bombs real quick.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: He told us that we were going to get a very exclusive tour of the Lunar Operation Command, which definitely got my attention. And then, . . .

David: You said before you only got to see the top, right?

Corey: Right. I was already further down in the LOC than I’d ever been.

David: Wow!

Corey: And what’s interesting is he said that the tour would begin at LOC Bravo.

Now, one of the things that I’ve kind of kept to myself, and it’s so you can tell who is real when they come forward, is that there are three LOCs.

David: Right.

Corey: There’s LOC Alpha, which is the one that I’ve always talked about, LOC Bravo, and LOC Charlie. And by the end of this trip, I get to visit all three.

David: Well, Corey, I hate to say this, but we are out of time for this episode. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Corey Goode. Thanks for watching.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Arrival of the New Guardians

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and we are here with Corey Goode. And in this episode, we’re going to get into the return of the Guardians.

Corey, welcome back.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So where we last left off, you had just met with Gonzales, who was talking about his work with trauma-recovery victims and these red-haired giant peoples.

Then you had a meeting with the seven different groups of the Anshar in a cleansing room.

So could you pick it up from there and tell us what happens at this point and where you go next?

Corey: While we were still in this cleansing room, and there was still a line going, I was told that this was a celebration and preparation ceremony for meeting the new Guardians, and that it was my honor . . . I was being honored and being allowed to participate.

1 Corey Goode

I told Aree and her sister it was MY honor, and that I was thankful, and they were just very excited and playful. I mean, they were in a party mood. It was a party mood.

David: Hm.

Corey: And it was right after that, I started seeing these goblets, little glass-looking goblets, being passed around, and they looked almost like champagne flutes, but they weren’t tall.

So they were handing them around, and I was told that this was the nectar of Isis that I had been offered before that I had turned down.

And everyone was holding a glass. I was kind of holding a glass, and I was kind of like holding it like this, like you do a flute of champagne at a party. [Corey shows he’s holding his glass low and close to his body.]

And I looked up, and Aree was watching me and amused because I didn’t know what was going on. And she held her drink up like this [Corey holds the glass higher and out in front of himself], and she passed her hand over it [Corey passes an open hand over the glass] with her lips moving like she was saying a prayer.

And then she held it up and took [Corey breathes in the aroma from the nectar] a big ole deep whiff of the nectar, and then she drank it.

David: So in the past, you were very reticent to drink this elixir, apparently feeling that it might be some sort of psychotropic drug or something like that.

Corey: The first time I met her was when I was offered the drink, and I wasn’t going to take a drink like that from a stranger. I didn’t know who she was.

David: Hmm.

Corey: At this point, I trusted her. So I did what she did. I did the best I could to repeat it. Said a little thing to the One Infinite Creator blessing improv, and I took a drink.

And immediately, I felt this energy spreading out down my mouth, down my throat, all throughout my body. It’s almost like a heat, a warmth. And I became extremely euphoric.

David: Was it like a physical numbness that you felt as you drank it?

Corey: No. It was a warmth and just an energy that kind of spread out through my body.

David: Wow!

Corey: Very unique. And I looked around, and the energy of everyone, as they were drinking it, was changing. They were becoming more . . . kind of like outgoing. They were not keeping up their appearances like they were before.

You know, different groups felt like they had to hold theirselves a certain way in front of another group.

Everyone became relaxed, and I felt connected with the Anshar in a level that I had never felt connected before, even using their chairs.

David: It sounds to me kind of like this is not just a chemical effect, but that there was some sort of energetic component to the beverage. Do you think that’s true”

Corey: That’s exactly what it was.

David: Okay. Could you tell us how long this euphoric ceremony lasts after you drank the beverage?

Corey: After I drank the beverage, it seemed like only moments that I had to enjoy the effects.

David: Hm.

Corey: Because then, I was grabbed by Aree and her sister and several others that were headed towards the door.

And we headed towards the door. We walked back out into the large domed room where I had appeared the first time and every time since.

There were the two guys at each door, guarding the doors, as the last time.

2 Anshar Door Guards

And we went back out into the cavern area where the city used to be.

3 Anshar Cavern

And now, there was a huge 120′ across classic-looking flying saucer that was parked a little bit off in the distance with a ramp down. And we could see a little bit of movement and activity.

4 Anshar Flying Saucer

As we got closer, I could see some of that Omega group of the Inner Earth, the ones that had dark hair, looked very Caucasian, military looking.

5 Omega Group Anshar

And they were wearing these blue one-piece uniforms with these big gold stars on them, like the star I saw on the table in the Anshar meeting. It was like a symbol of Venus, basically, on their left chest area.

David: Okay.

Corey: And they were guiding all of us into the craft.

We all sat down, got comfortable, and everyone loaded up, and then we took off.

David: Now, at this point, were you aware of your destination? Did you know where you were going?

Corey: Aree and her sister sat on either side of me, and they confirmed that we were headed to this space station that I went to prior, where I met the Sentinels.

And they were calling it the Council at Saturn.

David: I thought the time you met the Sentinels was at Venus, not Saturn.

Corey: I met them on Venus, but if you remember, afterwards, I was taken to Saturn to one of these same anomalies, like is off of Jupiter.

David: Ah.

Corey: And when I entered in, there was an identical space station.

David: Interesting. Okay.

So what’s the next thing that happens? I guess you must have disembarked from the craft. Did you feel it land?

Corey: When we docked, you really couldn’t tell.

David: Hm.

Corey: There was no “phzzzzz” [Corey releases air], anything like that.

David: Okay.

Corey: It was just . . . People started getting up and leaving. That’s how I . . . I mean, we just got up and started leaving.

David: Okay.

Corey: And we walked through the docking station. The doors are huge, because they are meant to service beings that are 18′ tall or so.

David: Wow!

Corey: And so are the hallways, passageways, through the space station.

6 Council At Saturn Space Station

The long skinny section that leads to the rounded section, when you walk through that, the ceilings are very tall.

They brought us to the main area, and that’s where the meeting would occur.

David: The previous meeting that we had in other episodes featured you with the Super Federation, and they were told that they were no longer going to control humanity’s destiny. And apparently, they got very upset.

Corey: Some of them.

David: Did you feel any sense of anxiety going back into a room that looked the same now, as if, maybe, you were going to have another experience like that?

Corey: No, because A, I was feeling euphoric from the elixir.

David: Okay.

Corey: And it was wearing off. It wore off fairly soon. And we had all the Anshar around that were extremely excited.

There were like 40 representatives inside this flying saucer.

David: Hm.

Corey: And we all filed out. We went into the large meeting room, and we all got in to like a semicircle to wait for the next part of the meeting.

David: Did it look exactly the same as the Super Federation meeting room?

Corey: Exactly, except there were no chairs. It was completely empty.

David: So what happens at this point once they form this semicircle?

Corey: I began to walk across the room to go over and meet Mica.

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And when I was about to the halfway point, Teir-Eir and the Golden Triangle-head beings appear in the room.

8 Teir Eir And Golden Triangle Head

And not only did Teir-Eir appear, but the two other Blue Avians appeared but were not standing next to Teir-Eir.

David: And just to clarify, you had said that Mica represented a group that we on Earth would know as the Olmecs from South America.

Corey: Right.

David: Could you just briefly remind us who that Olmec group is, and what’s their relationship to us?

Corey: Yes, many, many, many times on Earth in our history, refugees have been brought from other planetary systems to stay here and live here. And they’ve lived here for many generations at times. That was the Mayans.

But the Olmecs, when there was a major issue going on in their star system, many of them were brought here as refugees to survive here and wait out the issues there. Then they were brought back.

David: Issues like a war? Do you know what it was?

Corey: I don’t know what it was. It could have been a war or something crazy going on in their star system.

David: A cataclysm?

Corey: It could have been a cataclysm.

David: Okay.

Corey: It could have been what happened with the Native Americans that have stories about being taken underground during cataclysms.

They may have been taken through a portal system to another planet and been refugees.

David: So did the Olmecs ever tell you why they made these gigantic spherical stone heads of themselves and bury them in the ground? Did you ever get that?

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Corey: No.

David: Okay. But do you know how many of them were dropped off here?

Corey: It was thousands. Their number grew from thousands to tens of thousands while they were here. And then they were all removed and brought back to their star system, which is one of the closest stars, if not the closest star, in our local 52 star cluster.

And it is a mostly ocean planet that’s made up of a bunch of islands and one main kind of a continent.

David: Now, you’ve said before on this show that what makes them unique for us is that they had overthrown Draco Reptilian rule on their planet.

From our perspective, how recently has that happened for them?

Corey: Well, three generations ago, and I’m told that their lifespan is around 300 years.

David: So that would be like 900 years?

Corey: Yes.

David: You were walking towards Mica, and then you have Teir-Eir and the Golden Triangle head being manifest. And what happens at this point?

Corey: I stop and I look at Teir-Eir, and Teir-Eir motions over to the people that Mica’s with, and he asks me to count them.

So I go and I count them, and there are 52 of them.

David: Are these all Olmecs or were they different types?

Corey: No, they were all humans of different types, and most of them were not Caucasian. They were different types of olive skin, brown skin, and even a kind of a tan skin.

But they were representatives of each of the local 52 stars. And they are all basically our cosmic cousins. They are human beings, just different types.

David: Okay.

Corey: And what I was told is that in the previous meeting, THESE people, these representatives, are now going to be on the Super Federation board, . . .

David: Oh!

Corey: . . . and they’re going to hold positions along with us.

David: And so just to clarify, what does the Super Federation have to do with us if we are now a part of it, because I thought before, it was something completely . . . that we had no access to.

Corey: The 22 genetic experiments were no longer going to be headed by the Super Federation.

We’re being given the management keys of our own genetic and spiritual development.

David: Does that mean that we will come into capabilities to expand our genetics as we choose? Like, could we start to modify our DNA in ways that we like?

Corey: Yes. And, apparently, we do.

On the Anshar timeline, they discussed their history with me a little bit about what humans go through, the process they go through after they learn about the 22 genetic experiments. They rebel against them.

Then they over embrace them and begin to hack our own DNA.

Things get out of control that way into a point to where we all start developing ourselves out to more of a pure form.

I know that sounds racist to a lot of people, but, apparently, we go through an incredibly rough period of development.

After I counted the number of people, it was indicated that I should go stand with them.

So I was standing with the 52 beings that I had just counted.

David: Hm.

Corey: And when I was standing there, Mica was introducing me to the people around him real quickly, but we didn’t have much time.

David: Well, now you said 52 stars in our local cluster. Is there a relationship between that and these 52 beings?

Corey: Right. Each being is a representative from one of those stars.

David: Oh! Okay.

Corey: But he was quickly introducing me to a few people around, and he mentioned that each being that is present was pretty much picked by the Guardians.

Each of them have either been in contact with the Blue Avians or the Triangle-Head being and gone through a similar thing that I have in their planetary system.

David: So this must have been really exciting, given that if, as you’ve said before, the Olmecs were contacted by the Blue Avians and the Triangle beings, if each of these groups represent people who have been contacted by them, I would imagine they would be very excited to see these beings show up again – the Blue Avians and the Triangle beings.

Corey: Yes. This was a BIG moment for everyone present – a lot of excitement.

As I was talking with Mica, I looked over, and I noticed kind of a procession that started. And the different Anshar groups were going up to Teir-Eir and the Golden Triangle being and were bowing, and some sort of communication was going on. And then they would leave. They were filing through in a line.

David: Hm. After they got done meeting with these existing Guardians, what happens next?

Corey: The Sentinels then appear. And I’ve gotten a weird feeling from them.

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They feel like they’re a projection from another density or domain, that they’re projecting here from another domain.

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David: Well, and you said that when you went to Venus, if we line up your story with what’s in The Law of One, it would appear that Venus was a source for the Ancient Builder Race, which could be over two billion years old.

That these Sentinels may have been somehow related to a civilization over two billion years old. So could you explain that?

Corey: Yes. They were somehow caretakers of the remaining technology here.

David: Hm.

Corey: So, like I said, it was like they were projected from another realm.

They immediately started interacting with the Guardians, and when they did, the room started . . . around them immediately in the room, these weird streaks or tongues of light started kind of darting around and disappearing, almost like flashes.

12 Room With Beings And Reps

It started off slow. Then it picked up, and it got faster and faster, and then it stopped.

David: Were there colors to the lights? What did it actually look like?

Corey: Yeah, there were all the colors of the rainbow.

David: Hm.

Corey: Definitely. All the colors of the rainbow.

David: What was your emotional impression as this was taking place?

Corey: I was in awe. Everyone in the room was in awe.

Although we didn’t know what was going on, it was a part of the way they communicated with the Guardians.

David: What is the next thing that you noticed?

Corey: Once this meeting was complete, everyone just kind of started shuffling around into this big circle with the Guardians in the middle.

We all kind of got into this circle, and Teir-eir motioned that he was going to speak through me again.

David: Hm.

Corey: And as usual, he had me great them “in the Love and the Light of the One Infinite Creator.”

And they began to have me address everyone present and to state that the new Guardians were coming, and that the Solar System had gone through enough of the transition to where the Blue Spheres were not needed anymore. And they were beginning to just disappear.

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And the same was occurring with the barrier around our Solar System. It had phased out. It was basically gone.

David: Really?

Corey: And the Guardians stated that if it wasn’t for the Galactic Federation, which seemed to be something different completely, and their blockade around our Solar System, they said that after the barrier fell, the Reptilians and other groups would have escaped through ships if there had not been a blockade formed there.

David: Now, if the Blue Spheres, that you were talking about before, were essentially giant technologies or beings . . .

Corey: Beings.

David: . . . that came into our Solar System, ostensibly, to stop a Solar Flash from happening at the end of the Mayan calendar of December 21, 2012, is when I was expecting it would happen from the science that I’ve studied, the ancient science.

If those spheres have disappeared, then why wouldn’t we get a Solar Flash?

Corey: They weren’t preventing a Solar Flash. What they were doing is: leading up to the Solar Flash, more and more energies will start coming through our Sun and the cosmic energy that we’re passing through.

What these spheres did was they acted like some sort of a resonant system that when the energies came in, it buffered the energies.

So now that they’re gone, we’re getting the full strength of these waves of energy.

From what I’m told, our star is expected to go through these energetic Solar Flashes when it comes out of solar minimum in 10 or 11 years, is when they’re expecting the major stuff to happen.

David: So that would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 2027 or 2028?

Corey: Around that time.

David: Okay. Then we do need to make some kind of public statement, because some of the things that you said to me before had put emphasis on the year 2023.

And I had been led to believe that that was when you had been told the Solar Flash would happen, somewhere around 2023 or 24. So could you clarify the difference between this window of 27 to 28 and the window of 23 to 24?

Corey: I think there is some confusion because the ’23, ’24 has to do with a timeframe that all of the Disclosure information would most likely occur.

David: This is more of a Full Disclosure?

Corey: It’s more of a Full Disclosure and more of an Event. It’s focused around there being a Solar Flash. It is not a Solar Flash.

There are flashES and events that lead up to the crescendo event. So uh . . .

David: Are you saying those flashes might even take place over the course of years?

Corey: Yes.

David: Really?

Corey: They’ve already started.

David: Well, but we haven’t had what the 35 different ancient prophecies seem to describe as akin to like a photo flash bulb going off that makes the whole Solar System extremely bright.

Corey: It is said that we’re going to have a number of those that are going to lead up to the big crescendo event.

David: Wow! Do you think that, perhaps, the first of those big bright flashes could happen in the ’23, ’24 range?

Corey: I was told that they’ve already started . . .

David: Hm.

Corey: . . . on a lower level. They build up.

David: Oh, okay. So I just want to clarify then, if we’re not getting any serious disclosure until ’23, ’24, that still leaves us with as much as six years. What would happen during those six years?

Corey: Well, that’s up to us. The plan is to give us a slow, unrolling of information, but no plan survives the battlefield. Who knows what will happen in that time period?

We could have a very quick burst of information, and then go for a while with no new information. Who knows how it’s going to happen?

David: A lot of our audience was really concerned when you had mentioned in previous episodes that you had been told that we might end up on a negative timeline where we actually had Draco ruling the planet.

But all of the things you’ve been telling us throughout this sequence of updates suggests that that door has closed.

Corey: Correct.

David: Could you explain for us?

Corey: Yeah, we are definitely redirected onto the positive timelines, but the most optimal timeline, or just a little bit more positive than what the other thing would have been, is up to us.

David: Okay.

Corey: But that is correct. Things have changed in our timeline to a point to where there is no way there could be open rule by the Reptilians.

David: So we were at the point now where the Blue Avians are talking through you, and they say that the Giant Spheres have disappeared, that the Outer Barrier disappeared, and that now this Galactic Federation is protecting our airspace for us.

What are the implications of that? Where does it go from here?

Corey: Well, I was told that the only avenue of escape, because of this blockade, was through the portal system, you know, the Cosmic Web.

But, as I’ve also previously stated, it’s heavily monitored at a high level. There’s nowhere you can go through these portals that they can’t track you down.

They said that whoever did escape through the portals during this time period would be on the run for the rest of their lives.

David: In a recent conversation I had with Pete Peterson, he said, and I quote, “Americans are all over the galaxy”, if you get to a certain level of the UFO cover-up, right?

So some of those people would not be good people, I would imagine. They would be Secret Space Program Cabal types.

What would stop some of these people that are still here on Earth now from rejoining those other groups that are distributed throughout the galaxy?

Corey: The Galactic Federation blockade.

David: So those other groups might still exist, but they’re not going to get anybody new coming to them.

Corey: Correct.

David: Do you think they might try to come back here and invade us?

Corey: No. There’s no way, not with the blockade.

David: Hm. So could you tell us a little bit more about what this Galactic Federation blockade is or looks like, because I’m not sure I understand?

Corey: I haven’t been told myself. It is very highly-developed beings that have a military blockade around our Solar System.

So I would imagine they are ships and stations that are preventing ingress or egress from our Solar System.

David: These 52 beings that you saw there, what is their role in this meeting as you’re having this communication take place?

Corey: Well, we were told that we were witnesses, that we were the conduits for each of our collective consciousnesses, that each of our groups was a collective consciousness on our planetary systems that we were on, like here on Earth.

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The information I was receiving, what I was witnessing, was on behalf of the collective consciousness here in this Solar System.

They stated that all of the 52, 53 including me, were incarnates from this Galactic Federation.

David: Hm.

Corey: This Galactic Federation pretty much had several waves that came to each of these star systems to begin to assist.

We were also each told that on the planets that we’re serving, there were hundreds of thousands of Wanderers, basically, that were incarnated there from our soul group.

Whichever Galactic Federation group that I’m incarnated from, that I’m here to do work for, I’m not the only one. There’s hundreds of thousands from my group that are here, so there’s nothing special about me. I’m one amongst hundreds of thousands.

David: How does it relate back to life on Earth now? You’re doing this witnessing; what does that mean for us?

Corey: Nothing in a physical sense, just in an energetic and consciousness sense.

David: Okay.

Corey: That’s all it really is about.

Now, while we were having discussions, and the different groups were . . . after they had met, you know, the Sentinels after they had met the Guardians, I was told to tell everyone to prepare for the coming of the new Guardians.

And all of a sudden, there was what I’ve seen before, felt before, but it was a little bit different, a major flash. But it was like a flash, but the light when it flashed, it went woo, woo, WOO, woo – kind of like that. It was a bright white blue flash.

David: Hm.

Corey: And we felt, or I felt, every molecule, everything, every little molecule in my body vibrating. It was just zhhhhh . . . I thought I was going to vibrate out of my body.

And then the two new Guardians were standing almost across from Teir-Eir and the Golden Triangle being.

The room filled with thousands of blue orbs. I mean, the scene was AMAZING.

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David: And what exactly did these new Guardians look like?

Corey: Sadly, at this point, I’m told that I am not supposed to describe or talk in detail about the new Guardians.

David: What’s the next thing that takes place?

Corey: Teir-Eir had me address everyone once again and had me address the fact that the Blue Avians and the Golden Triangle beings were going to phase out of our reality, that they were no longer going to appear to us in physical form, that the Blue Avians were going to appear to us, who had been a part of their soul group that were doing certain missions, and guide us in our dream state, and that they were going to teach us to become even more involved in dreamwork ourselves.

Apparently, all of the witnesses, the 53 of us, have been involved in heavy dreamwork, helping people in classroom settings on our planet, and that this was going to increase, and that we were going to start having more memory of it, that our Higher Selves were wiping our memory of these encounters and classrooms . . . environments.

David: So the Blue Avians appear to be the source of The Law of One. And in The Law of One, they say that they had to descend from 6th density to 5th density in order to help us because we were in so much trouble.

So do you think this means that they are now able to go back to 6th density?

Corey: Yes.

David: Well, that’s fascinating.

Corey: Yes. Yeah, they said that they were going back to their realm.

David: Wow! So that’s a big deal.

Corey: It is. Teir-Eir said humanity is going through their Great Awakening, and that we are at the precipice of our very own consciousness renaissance.

And that’s what we are about to go through right now.

And it was stated that the new Guardians were here to assist us in acclimating to being managers of our own destiny and to assist us in working together with not only the local 52 star representatives, but the members of the Super Federation that were allowed to stay and to help manage everything.

David: Was there a sense of sadness about them leaving?

Corey: No. There was excitement that the new ones were here.

How it ended is: Teir-Eir had me communicate to everyone the same thing that he had me communicate at the Super Federation.

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He ended with, “In service to All; in service to the One”.

And then they just slowly faded and were gone.

17 Teir Eir And Golden Triangle Being Fading Out

All we really got from the new Guardians, after Teir-Eir disappeared, was they communicated, . . . and I can’t tell you how they communicated this, but the only thing they communicated were the cosmic ground rules about how these groups could work together.

David: The 52, 53 witnesses?

Corey: And the Super Federation that they were joining – the ground rules for forming, basically, the new Super Federation.

And after they communicated those ground rules, they didn’t say goodbye. They just disappeared.

David: Do you have any information you can share with us about what those rules are?

Corey: I cannot share that information yet either. All of the information from the new Guardians has to be kept quiet for now.

David: So how did you end up leaving this room?

Corey: After the Guardians, the new Guardians, disappeared, all of the representatives from the local 52 stars, the witnesses, started getting picked up in Blue Spheres.

David: Oh.

Corey: At that point, I looked over and saw Aree sort of rushing towards me. And so I started to head towards her.

She was very excited. She gave me a big hug and opened up where my clothes were inside the brown satchel.

I reached in, I pulled my clothes out, and she pointed over to an area for me to go and change.

David: You didn’t fight to keep the JC Penney clothes?

Corey: No.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: Ha, ha. So I changed, and as soon as I changed, a Blue Sphere appeared and took me home.

And when I got home it was still the same day. I had only been gone for like 10 minutes or so.

David: Oh, wow!

Corey: And I had had days of encounters packed into 10 minutes.

David: Well, that’s very fascinating.

So Corey, I, again, want to thank you for being here. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock here with Corey Goode.

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Cosmic Disclosure: Bioship

David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Emery. And in this episode, we’re going to talk about organic craft.

Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Thanks for having me.

David: So in order to open up this discussion, let’s go back to your time at Sandia because we really have barely scratched the surface of that yet.

Obviously, we’re going to get into this organic craft thing, but before we do, you had talked about the fact that, in the beginning, you were getting these partial bodies.

After you got through the salmon fillet phase, and then you got through the arms and legs type of phase, you got partial bodies.

Emery: Correct.

David: So the first partial body that you told us about was, again, what?

Emery: The crossbreed tiger-type human hybrid.

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David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah. That was the one . . . It’s very disfigured and dysmorphed.

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And then the next one that followed that was the more of the smooth skin with the leopard skin, but with iridescent – like the peacock feather colors – skin.

David: Hm.

Emery: And that face was a little bit mutilated, so I couldn’t see the actual . . . but it was a very normal-sized skull, just like a human. The body was very thin and lanky.

And these bodies is what brought me to see craft, because later on, some of the tissue samples I was taking, they asked me to come take samples from a completely different part of the base, or this underground facility, that I would have to travel to, and also escort those samples back to my base, which was unusual for me to be a carrier, but it was all within the underground.

David: So if I’m getting this correctly then, what you’re saying is, that in certain cases, you were working on a body, or a partial body, . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . but then they had reason to believe that there might be some biological similarity between the body and the actual craft that the body was in.

Emery: Exactly.

David: Wow!

Emery: Exactly. And so I would actually . . . They would come on the intercom and actually say, “All right. That’s enough.”

Because I’m doing samples the whole time and giving them . . . As soon as I get a sample, I put it through the window. So they’re already testing, in the back, the genetics of this thing.

So I just remember them coming on and saying, “Okay, That’s enough, Smith. We need you to go do a run.” And I didn’t even know what that meant, because I’d never done a run.

David: Do you think that the people that are on the other side of the glass, that you pass these samples into, are more specialized and skilled workers than you?

Emery: Oh, absolutely.

David: Okay.

Emery: I mean, I’m just a technician. These, probably, are the scientists and geneticists, you know, that taught me later on all about that kind of thing.

These people are probably those people grabbing it, running it through some advanced fast scanner of some sort. because they were always . . . [They would] immediately come back, within minutes of me giving a sample, as I’m taking another sample and say, “Stop that. Go up and grab something from the inner ear,” you know, or something like that.

David: Oh!

Emery: So they were immediately, probably, another team behind these windows that are trying to find something out specific from this species.

David: Did you ever get to meet any of them? Or did you recognize any voices as being common voices?

Emery: Yes, I did later on, but I was not really allowed to hang out with them or talk to them.

David: Right.

Emery: But I did hear . . . You know, I see people in the locker room. I see people in the cafeteria. I see people on the outside, but not until way later on down the road did I actually get to meet people that were actually those people.

David: Interesting. So do you think, in some cases, that the tissue was able to be reproduced, like to be grown?

Emery: Yes. Yes, for sure. That’s definitely what they were doing. They were trying to reproduce these cells.

David: Okay. So then, you said that at certain points they might ask you to take tissue from the inner ear and stop what you were doing.

Do you think they have a database of the tissue samples, and they’re comparing . . . when they make tests, they’re comparing it to other parts of . . .

Emery: YES! Yes. Like it depends . . . They’re not only taking the tissue to reproduce. They’re studying the tissue. They’re studying the eardrum. They’re studying the phrenic nerve. They’re studying the heart muscle of this being. They’re studying all sorts of different parts of this body for some reason, for their own . . . Who knows.

So it’s not just one thing. They’re doing many different things with the body for their own reasons.

David: Yeah.

Emery: Maybe they just need that optical nerve because they want to know how they see. Maybe they need that tendon to see what those tenocytes are made out of, because it replicates so quickly in a Petri dish – one of the hardest cells to replicate.

So I think they’re just studying this like we are. I think some of it sometimes may be used for evil, and I think some of it is just trying to learn and find out, what are these beings, and where they come from, and what are they made up of, and so forth.

David: All right. I want to run something else by you since you brought this up. I think it’s a fascinating thing to discuss.

Well before I ever met Corey Goode, or . . . I knew of him, but we hadn’t gotten into this stuff till 2014, 2015.

I had been speaking to this insider, Jacob. And he told me, at some length, that the Draco Reptilian beings had essentially been all over our galaxy looking for various genetic materials.

And then they had taken the very best of the things that they found and had somehow spliced it in with themselves and had created a sort of super being out of themselves.

Do you think it’s possible that we could be on a similar trajectory right now by all this genetic research that you’re talking about?

Emery: Yes. I agree with that tremendously, just because of all the different requests and the different briefings I’ve been involved with in this MILAB.

And not to say it was . . . Like I always tell you, not to say that it was owned by Sandia or Los Alamos. Those are just names for cover-ups of corporations.

David: Yeah.

Emery: People need to know that as well.

David: Right.

Emery: It’s just that’s where I was. That’s the area I was.

David: Right.

Emery: Now, getting back to your question. Yes, I believe they were trying to get this DNA and somehow mix it with human DNA, and create, or inject, some inoculation into a human being to see if they could mutate and have different factors and different abilities that beings have.

David: Well, like eagles . . . Apparently, an eagle could see a dime from the top of the Empire State Building on the sidewalk.

Emery: Exactly. Right.

David: So if we had THAT kind of vision, that would be exciting.

Emery: Yes, it would. But then I would have to clean my house extra, extra, extra hard.

David: Ha, ha, ha.

Emery: Because I don’t like dust.

David: Okay, so at one point, you – or maybe more than once, but at least once – you were called in to a different location . . .

Emery: Yes. Right.

David: . . . because of this craft being organic, they thought.

Emery: Yes.

David: So let’s talk about that now.

Emery: Well, that’s when I said they were like, “Stop what you’re doing.”

No one’s ever said, “Stop what you’re doing and go change out” or whatever. And “change out” just means get out of the spacesuit.

So that’s what I did.

And they were right there, and they were like, “We want you to go here and take the tube, and you’re going to be dropped off here, and so-and-so will be there to escort you to this area.

And that was the longest ride I’ve ever been on a maglev tube.

David: Like a sub shuttle?

Emery: Yeah, it was a sub shuttle capsule. It was a capsule, yeah.

Because you can’t ask anything. You understand, you cannot, you know . . . They did tell me that this being came from this craft. They did tell me that.

David: Hm.

Emery: And that I was supposed to take these samples from this part of the craft – I had my folder with me – and was escorted to this – you know, this was one of the first times I rode this thing – and got there.

These two guys came out. One was a security guard, and one was a scientist. And there was no other security. Like no . . . You didn’t even have to pass through anything.

So it must have been part already . . . Once you get under, then you can go pretty much anywhere.

David: Can you describe what the room looked like once you got out of the capsule?

Emery: Yeah, sure. It looked just like a very clean, New York subway station.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: But it was very . . . another all white area, very clean, very silent. You could hear a pin drop.

David: Did you have some sort of container with you for samples?

Emery: No, nothing. I had the folder.

David: But what do you do with the sample?

Emery: Well, they have everything there.

David: Oh!

Emery: Just like this operating room I was in . . . THIS room . . . this thing is in a huge operating room . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . you know, this craft.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: So you walked into some sort of room where the craft was?

Emery: Well, first I had to go change. They made me change again into another . . . very similar like a locker room, but I didn’t see any colors on the floors like in the hallways I told you about, the color codes.

David: Ah, right.

Emery: And there was always someone with me. They wouldn’t let me be alone.

So I walked for at least 10 minutes down a very long, white hallway. There were many doors on the sides of the hallway, like every 100 feet.

And the door opened, and there I was in this giant – what I would call – a sterile hanger.

David: Wow!

Emery: A sterile hanger is what I’ll call it.

And there was this craft there, and there were many people there, a lot of people running around. They were all, of course, in clean scrubs, white . . . had the white jackets.

David: Now, you would assume a couple of things, okay? You would assume this is an underground base.

Emery: Absolutely. Yeah.

David: That it’s on Earth most likely. Or we don’t really know that, right, because the tube could have taken you to another planet, potentially.

But they didn’t tell you one way or the other, I assume.

Emery: [Emery shakes his head “no”.]

David: And that those other doors would have other craft of some kind in them as well.

Emery: Oh, for sure.

David: And they made sure that you only went to the one door, so you couldn’t possibly have gone and tried to open another door.

Emery: There’s no way. They had biometric . . . They had so many ways . . . Just to get in that door, he did the same thing we would do at the top of the facial recognition and the hand print.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. They’re getting a little bit more different now. Now, they’re doing the DNA thing. But anyway, we’ll get into that in another . . .

David: So what do you see? What does this thing look like when you walk into the room?

Emery: It’s hard to explain, but if you ever ate ice cream, . . .

David: Okay. Ha, ha.

Emery: Like if you had an ice cream scooper, and you make those round scoops. And if you ever made jello in one of those containers where it goes like this, and then like this, and then like this. [Emery uses his hand to show a three tiered jello dish.]

David: Oh.

Emery: Okay?

David: Yeah.

Emery: Do you understand? I don’t know what shape to call that.

David: It was a jello tree.

Emery: It was like a jello tree. Ha, ha. It was.

And . . . It was like this. [Again, Emery, repeats the same hand motions.]

And it was the most beautiful . . . I don’t like the color red, but it was the most beautiful color red I’ve ever seen.

David: Hm. Glossy?

3 Model Of Red Bioship

Emery: Yes. Yeah. Very reflective.

David: Any seams or just smooth?

Emery: No seams at all, completely smooth. And it did not give off any light, but it was kind of transparent and looked kind of like jello.

David: You could sort of see through it?

Emery: Yeah. It was kind of transparent, a little bit.

David: No discernible features on its surface? No writing?

Emery: Nothing?

David: No windows?

Emery: Nope.

David: Huh!

Emery: That was it.

David: Did they know how the beings got in or out of it, of the craft?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: Because I had to go inside.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah. And that was wild.

So I have this schematic. I have actually two other technicians that are here – they work here – and they’re with me, with all the sampling containers, and all the . . . You have to do this in a very sterile fashion, you know, with special instruments, and it’s all right there.

And these two guys . . .

David: Was the schematic on something like your folder?

Emery: Yeah, it was on the folder.

David: Okay.

Emery: This exact craft was on the folder – head-to-toe, inside, outside, everything.

David: Okay.

Emery: Anyway, so these two guys are with me. We’re walking up to the craft, and I’m allowed to share . . . They know, of course, everything I’m doing. They’re assisting me, which is cool.

So I go to this point on the craft and, basically, cut a piece of the craft away with a special device.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it was just like the tissue from the being.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. Same consistency.

Which, I didn’t tell you about that specific being, by the way.

David: Okay.

Emery: But it was very [much] the same consistency of that.

They took me around to the other side, and I took another piece and went underneath and went in the middle of this thing, because it’s suspended.

And it is suspended. It has some sort of . . . There are . . . I don’t know if it was metal, or what it was, but it was on something that was keeping it up in the air.

David: Like a chassis of some kind?

Emery: Yeah. They had built something to keep this off the ground about 9′, 9’~10′, I would say.

David: Did it move or wiggle at all? You say it was like jello. I’m just wondering how far we can take that analogy.

Emery: No, it was solid . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . but the consistency and the transparency of the first inch of this craft was transparent, like Plexiglas. You could kind of see into it.

David: Wow!

Emery: And then it just stopped, because it got darker. It got darker, I think, with the color, as you looked in.

David: So you go underneath it, and what do you see? How do you get inside?

Emery: So underneath are all these other round cup . . . like if you had cut a baseball sized sphere in half, and now you have that round cup, and you would pop it on the bottom of this craft. [Emery motions that the round portion is facing downward.] There was like thousands of these little bumps, these half spheres on it.

So I was also instructed to take this sphere near the center of the craft, which was kind of hollow.

And I did. And it just came right off. It was not like something you had to take a chainsaw to. It was very simple. It was like cutting into human tissue or tissue from an animal.

David: Was this some sort of beam cutter, or was it more of a scalpel?

Emery: I’d rather not say anything about the exact device.

David: Okay. Okay.

Emery: But all I can say is it was made for cutting pretty much any type of tissue without destroying the tissue.

David: Ah!

Emery: And that’ll probably come out to the public soon.

David: Okay.

Emery: So we took that and went down the center. And in the center, they had this little device like you see in the warehouses that go up and down.

And we got on this thing, and it lifted us up, and it goes all the way up into the thing. But it’s just a wall with all those bubbles on it again.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah. So I don’t know if that’s the inside, because it was hollow on the inside.

So I went all the way to the top, and there was this one big, big bubble on the inside of this thing. Big sphere. 3′ in diameter.

They would never allow me to go in there if it wasn’t safe. Of course, it wasn’t radioactive, but it had this glowing . . . kind of like on your Apple computer, that scary Apple computer light I don’t like to see at night. It’s like “a-a-a-ra, a-a-a-ra”.

David: Yeah.

Emery: It was like that. So it was doing this thing, and I felt kind of bad. I was like, I think maybe this thing might be still alive or something.

So I took a small sample of that, a very small sample. That’s what they asked for – a small sample of like a punch biopsy, we would call it. It’s probably like the size of an eraser tip. That’s how much I took.

And I handed it off to the guys. They wrapped it all up, put it in a special box for me, and next thing I know, I’m back being escorted right out.

The whole thing took less than two hours.

David: Is the box clear?

Emery: No. No, it was a silver box, and it has inside a special canister that regulates temperature inside the box.

And the box is specifically made for these samples, like already pre-cut. [It is] kind of like you get those pelican cases, and they pre-cut the insides of them out. It was just like that, but it was vacuum-packed and vacuum-sealed, and it was very lightweight.

David: So let’s talk about this . . . This craft is so bizarre. It’s so unlike what any of us would have expected you to say.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Let’s talk about the being now.

Emery: I know it sounds crazy.

David: No, it’s cool. Let’s talk about the being. What was the being like?

Emery: The being was very similar. It had a red consistency. And it was very . . . Remember I told you about that jelly-like creature, like we talked about, the transparent one before, which we’ll get into later?

David: Uh-huh.

Emery: But this one was solid, and it was just perfect human shape. It had a face, though, that comes to a point instead.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. So the face comes this way. [Emery brings his hands from the sides of his face toward this nose and mouth showing more of a pointed edge than rounded face.]

It reminded me of . . . If you get an acorn – the shape of an acorn.

David: Okay.

Emery: And you know how it does have this cup-like . . . you know, it’s not perfectly round. It has this teardrop-type . . .

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David: Sure. Sure.

Emery: And if you get the teardrop, and then you just squish it a little bit, it was just like that.

David: Really?

Emery: Yeah. But by squishing it, not that it would bulb out, but it would come to a point.

David: What was the size of the facial features compared to the size of the head? Like if you could map it out with . . .

Emery: It was very similar to a human’s.

David: Oh!

Emery: Like, as far as how far the eyes were . . . because that’s one thing we measure. We measure across the eyes. We do a symmetrical test like plastic surgeons do.

So we want to see symmetry. We always measure all of that, and we also have a scanner that goes over the whole body to 3D replicate it, and models.

So every creature they have is already 3D model replicated.

David: Wow!

Emery: And so there’s a whole museum of this, by the way, of these craft and all the beings, . . .

David: Really?

Emery: . . . all 3D replicated in many different materials. It is like this secret museum with all this stuff in it that’s locked away somewhere.

I don’t know where it’s at. I have no idea. But I have seen many of the models in the projects for specific beings.

David: So when you say the eyes were white, are they round? Are they almond shaped? Are they like human eyes? What would the eyes look like?

Emery: No, they were more round than the typical almond shape, but they were the same size.

And this creature was probably 5′ 5”, about 5′ 5”, 5-foot, 5-inches tall.

David: Was it just all white, or did it have something like an iris or pupil?

Emery: No, there was a different color – white in the middle, but it was still all white.

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But there was a circle in the middle that was whiter than the rest of the eye. So you could see that.

And I was not . . . My part of that being was not to have anything to do with the face or the eye for sampling. I was actually down low doing something with the reproductive system, taking some reproductive organs out, when they told me to stop and go to do the run.

David: Did these beings have a skeleton?

Emery: Yes.

David: And how similar to us would the skeletal structure be, from what you could tell?

Emery: Just from where I was working at in the pelvis, it was very similar. I didn’t see anything different.

I did not see the X-ray of that, or the CAT scan, or MRI, or what we call the . . . Well. we have a special scanner that scans the whole body. And you can really see everything all at once before you go in, but I didn’t get to see it on this being. I only got to see the scan for the reproductive area.

David: How many . . . Did it have hands like we do?

Emery: Yes.

David: And how many fingers?

Emery: But they were smaller. They were smaller and thinner.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yep.

David: How many fingers?

Emery: And longer. There are five fingers.

David: But longer fingers, you said?

Emery: Yeah, they were longer – a lot longer than our fingers by . . . You know, I have a size 9 hand, which is pretty big. I would say these creatures would probably have fingers maybe 30% longer than our fingers.

Yeah, they were very long and very thin. And they did have fingerprints.

David: Hm!

Emery: Yeah, they had prints on them.

And their skin was just like this [Emery points to his skin], but it was red.

David: Oh, so it was actually more like a human in the way that . . . the texture of the skin.

Emery: Yes.

David: And what kind of red would you say it was, like if you had to describe the red a little more in detail?

Emery: Like a brick red, rose red, if you mix that together. It was a nice red. It was like a matte brick red.

David: Okay.

Emery: But not as dark as brick red – a little bit lighter.

David: Did it have any body hair?

Emery: No.

David: Okay.

Emery: None.

David: What would be the proportions of the skull to the body compared to one of us?

Emery: The skull was a little larger than a normal human skull, and the torso was smaller than our torso. But the legs were longer, and the arms were a lot longer than our arms, to say the least, . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. . . . as far as symmetry.

David: So do you think that if somebody who didn’t know anything were to have one of these walk up to them, with these white eyes and red skin, do you think they would be terrified?

Emery: Well, . . .

David: Or did it have sort of a noble look to it?

Emery: . . . I don’t believe so. Or course, the fear that’s installed and programmed into us, yes, maybe. But you have to understand, they don’t . . . when you approach, usually, extraterrestrials, you’re going to know right away.

Like that guy hiding in the corner as you’re walking around the alley, he just doesn’t feel right. You know, you get that feeling.

You know, never use this [Emery points to his head]. Always use your heart to feel.

And I think that, for the most part, on first seeing something, you could possibly maybe have a fear factor involved if you have not been in these projects, of course, or have never seen this, and you’re 15 years old, and you’re in the woods, and here this thing is.

Yeah, they’re probably going to scream bloody murder.

David: Ha, ha, ha. Right.

Emery: But then again, if this was walking down the streets of New York, I think most of the people would be more enticed about it and not go throw rocks and hatchets at it.

David: Sure.

Emery: I think they would be coming up and . . . Here you have this being with its arms open, with no weapons, not hurting anyone, not saying anything, let’s say, and emanating a very good peaceful energy, or negative energy, whatever the being is.

People are going to respond in the right way.

David: Yeah.

Emery: I believe in the people. I believe people will do the right thing.

David: What was the most physiologically abnormal or different thing about this being that you saw either on the MRI or in the autopsy?

Emery: It was the uterus. Yes.

David: What was different about it?

Emery: It had four chambers.

David: REALLY?

Emery: Yes.

David: And did they have any speculation as to what that might be for? Did it have multiple . . .

Emery: It can have multiple children all at the same time . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . .4 children, or 6, or 8, or 12.

David: Very interesting.

Emery: Yeah.

David: Is that something that might be common, or is that kind of unusual?

Emery: That’s very unusual. It means that species can multiply very quickly. And they have a way of measuring the chemicals in the body to measure how fast they can gestate, which is really cool.

David: Here’s what I don’t understand: the uterus has all these chambers, but it wold appear, based on conventional human gestation, that the baby has to grow to a large enough size to really kind of fill the womb.

How could a being have so many chambers and still have the offspring able to actually be born and be healthy?

Emery: We believe that this being only has babies once in their lifetime. And it’s possible, after that, they die shortly after.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes. But that’s inconclusive. That was just where it was left with me.

David: Do we know anything about what these beings are called or where they’re from?

Emery: Yes. Ha, ha.

David: But you can’t say, or can you?

Emery: No. No.

David: So it’s really bizarre to me to try to understand: how do you get an organic craft that looks like the body?

I mean, if people didn’t have the respect for you that they had in previous episodes, this whole thing might sound completely, totally ridiculous.

But yet, on the other hand, the way you answer my questions, I always use forensic techniques. I jump around, and I ask really specific details, . . .

Emery: You’re good at that.

David: . . . and you don’t miss a beat.

Emery: No.

David: So this is a very strange thing we’re talking about.

Emery: Yes. So the craft are made in space. They’re made by harmonics and frequency and sound. And they are also, just like I can say, for example, your own pet. And what that means is: you have a good conscious connection with this craft.

Lots of craft can be made from your own DNA, have a piece of your DNA in it, and that allows you to consciously assist with the consciousness, you know, speak to the craft telepathically, and also move the craft without doing anything.

David: Hm.

Emery: The cells on those craft are living cells. And without getting too far into the physics and science, that doesn’t exist yet, which will sound a little crazy, those cells have micro/nanoparticles of computer technology in them.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah. They can store energy. And we’re talking on a super nano level, you know, very, very small.

The cells themselves, like, one day you asked me: “How the heck do these cells, or these synthetic cells, work like the mitochondria?”

And I was kind of hesitant to really tell you, but they’re like micro capacitors inside these cells that self-regulate, so the whole body, and every cell in that craft, is actually speaking to itself.

David: And I think you had said at one point that, in some cases, it’s like a hexagonal matrix?

Emery: Yes.

David: Like a honeycomb?

Emery: The scaffold is sometimes like a hexagon, like a honeycomb. And that allows cells to go in there, and grow into there, and be happy.

But that scaffold, also, is the whole part of the craft that allows the craft to communicate with the cells and the user.

David: So you’re saying that they can grow a craft in space?

Emery: Yes.

David: And how prevalent do you think this is amongst extraterrestrial civilizations that are advanced enough to travel here?

Emery: I think it’s a common thing. They learn how to produce gravity, a gravitational field – an electromagnetic field that envelops the craft and the person, so they have their own atmosphere, and their own gravity.

And that’s why they can go a million miles an hour and turn at a 90° turn, because they’re in their own gravitational force that has nothing to do with a planet or anything else around them.

David: I guess one of the things that . . . If we’re going to really get speculative here . . . People might wonder, if the craft would become sentient and then perhaps turn on its owner at some point if it wasn’t feeling respected?

If there could be some danger in having a being with free will that is your spaceship?

Emery: THIS is where it gets really interesting. The craft IS you. So YOU are the craft.

Now, if you are suicidal, then the craft will be suicidal.

David: Hm.

Emery: If you are having a good time, then the craft is going to be happy too.

And it feels this way on a craft. You can actually feel this back and forth.

You know, it’s not operating really on its own as much as you think. It is its own sentient, but it only feels your emotion, which is really neat.

David: Wow!

Emery: I’ve been on craft before where I felt like . . . the best way I could put it is: I felt like it was my pet dog, because it was just so funny and cuddly and hilarious.

David: Wow!

Emery: But at the same time, it was very obedient like a dog.

David: Interesting.

Emery: It would never turn on its owner. You know, although some dogs do, you know what I’m getting at.

David: Right.

Emery: I’m getting at that point where it’s a very beautiful connection between the beings and their craft.

David: Well, it makes sense you would want to design it that way, so it was safe.

Emery: Right. I’m going to program it not to bite me anymore. Ha, ha.

David: Right. Ha, ha.

All right. Well, Emery, I want to thank you for being here. And I want to thank you for watching. This is Cosmic Disclosure. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with our special guest, Emery Smith, talking about organic spacecraft. Thanks for watching.


Cosmic Disclosure: Alien Tech at the Vatican

David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And here again with me is Emery Smith, a friend of mine for the last 10 years.

I’ve been leaning on you for a decade to do this, and you finally have. So, thank you, Emery. And thank you on behalf of all people in the world who want freedom and Full Disclosure.

Emery Smith: Oh, thanks for having me, Dave.

David: We were actually driving in the car, and we were talking about the bodies that you’d autopsied, but then you told me something in the car that I think sheds some deeper light on your experience.

And I’d like us to go into that part now, even though I think it’s farther along in your career.

But it helps to establish a fundamental truth, which is that insiders, typically, when you get a real one, they have lots of different, cool things that they’ve done.

So tell us about the Vatican.

Emery: Oh, the Vatican. Yes, yes.

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So a private organization went to the DoD [u] and the mil [military] labs I was working at, and they needed some technicians and some scientists to go to the Vatican to look at their archives, because they know that they had some information on a craft that was taken in New Mexico.

David: So there had been a UFO . . .

Emery: That was shot down.

David: Oh!

Emery: Yeah.

David: And it was a recent one.

Emery: Yes, very recent. And they took this craft . . .

David: Why would they shoot it down? Was it hostile? Did it do anything bad?

Emery: No, no, no, not at all.

David: Oh.

Emery: No, it just got too close to some of the weapons up there . . .

David: Oh! Okay.

Emery: . . . and from what I heard, from the debriefing.

And I don’t know where it crashed. I just know where it was at.

David: Do we know anything about what this craft looked like or what kind of occupants they found inside?

Emery: No, there were no occupants that was mentioned, but the craft did look like a tetrahedron.

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The best way I could put it is: make a tetrahedron out of PVC pipes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yep. And about eight feet in diameter.

David: Uh!

Emery: Yeah, and it has a light in the middle of it.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And this was like a robotic drone?

Emery: It always stays centered. Ah, it could have been. But then again, a lot of these craft are conscious, actually.

David: Hm.

Emery: And it can . . . Every now and then, it’ll strobe. And then it’ll fill up the spaces so you can’t see through it.

David: What will fill up spaces?

Emery: Like, you know, I just said it was an empty tetrahedron, like made out of PVC pipe?

David: Right.

Emery: So you could see through it, and you could see the light in the middle.

David: Oh!

Emery: Uh-huh. Yeah.

David: What color was the orb of light? Do we know?

Emery: It was blue, but it was very small, like probably three inches in diameter.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yes.

David: And the tetrahedron itself was white?

Emery: It was . . . The outside of it was like if you made one with PVC pipe and it was pure white, and it was seamless.

David: Wow!

Emery: And if you got too close to it, it would actually fill in a space of . . . that you could not see into it.

David: But I still don’t know if I understand.

Emery: Okay. So if you have an empty tetrahedron that you can see through, and we’re only talking about the outside lines, okay?

David: Okay.

Emery: So you could see through it, and you can see this ball.

David: Oh.

Emery: And if you get too close to it, it’ll actually go solid.

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David: This tetrahedron goes solid?

Emery: Yes.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: And then what does it look like?

Emery: It’s just white. It’s just white.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, pure white.

David: So this appears to have been some kind of drone. There were no occupants in it.

Emery: There were no occupants, but it doesn’t mean . . . because that white light could be some sort of consciousness.

David: Or a being. Right.

Emery: Or a being.

David: Yeah.

Emery: So you cannot . . . Any time you see light, you have to think being first and then go from there.

David: So you’re saying, if I’m getting this right, that the Department of Defense had this craft, or whatever it is, get shot down in New Mexico.

And they’re drawing a blank as to what it is or where it came from.

Emery: Yeah. I don’t know where it was shot down. I just know it was stored in New Mexico, . . .

David: Oh!

Emery: . . . because that’s where I was at. But it was a first of its kind, so they had . . .

David: They have a very robust idea of what normally would crash, correct?

Emery: Yes.

David: They have an extensive catalog?

Emery: They have an extensive collection, I will say.

David: Yeah, ha, ha. Okay. But this skewed the charts in some way.

Emery: Yes. Yes, it gave off different, I guess, frequencies or something that they were amazed about. And it didn’t show any aggression or whatever after it was shot down.

And it was still obviously operational.

David: And you say that this craft was in the category where it appears that the material itself is a life form somehow?

Emery: Well, I don’t know about THAT, because I wasn’t in on that part. All I know is that ball on the inside had energy.

David: Okay.

Emery: So energy and light always could mean life.

David: Okay. So what did they decide to do about this craft? If they don’t know what it is, they don’t know where it came from, what kind of resources can they draw upon at that point?

Emery: Well, what they do is they form a team, and they do a big background check around the world, because there’s other catalogs in other countries and other religions.

And, of course, the Vatican has always been a huge database. It has a huge archive of many things: artifacts and things they have found from space and have collected over many, many, many, many years.

And they have an underground base under the Vatican.

So two scientists and myself were deployed to that area to the Vatican to an undisclosed location in the Vatican. And we took an elevator down about seven or eight floors.

David: Hm.

Emery: And that’s kind of how it all started. We got permission from the Vatican. They set it all up.

We’re just contractors going there to collect any type of information that would be similar to this device.

David: So is it common that there is interagency cooperation?

Emery: Yes.

David: Okay.

Emery: Usually for exchange for favors.

David: Now, you are an Air Force veteran, right?

Emery: Yes.

David: And we’ve often heard from various insiders that there’s like an Air Force wing of the military-industrial complex and a Navy wing. They kind of broke off after World War II . . .

Emery: That’s true.

David: And they’ve grown into these totally separate industrial complexes.

Emery: That’s very true.

David: So would you estimate that most of your experience is in the Air Force side, because that’s where you started, or . . .

Emery: Yeah, for this particular thing, I would say so, but they still work together when they have questions.

David: Okay.

Emery: They’re not banging heads.

David: Right.

Emery: But they do like to keep their secrets together, because the more they can show the government, the more money they can get at the end of the year.

So if I have some really cool things that I’ve collected this year for this corporation, this mil lab or Air Force mil lab, then we get more money.

And so they don’t always share the secrets of what they’re doing, but they do always work together to figure out things that they can’t figure out. They work always . . . They’re very compliant with that.

David: So I think the military budget, even on-the-books military budget, recently was like in the neighborhood of $864 billion – the ridiculous $700 toilet seats and that kind of thing, and the little nuts that cost $65.

So the idea being that the military budget has a lot of room in it for off-balance sheet expenditures.

Emery: That is correct. You know, you could get a toilet seat for $700. And they WILL go to Home Depot and buy it for $2.00. And they’ll buy 2,000 of them. And then the rest of that money goes where?

David: Well, apparently, you guys are fighting over it is what you’re telling me now. It’s like a healthy . . .

Emery: It is a competition.

David: Competition.

Emery: But from my experience, I mean, and I’m not one of the executives there by far or their financial advisers, but just from what I heard from some of the higher upper-class people in there that they usually always get about the same.

David: Oh.

Emery: So it’s not this . . . They’re not beating them by billions of dollars.

David: Right.

Emery: And it is actually not billions, it’s trillions.

David: Right, when you encounter all the other ways that money is being generated.

Emery: Correct.

David: So if we have this craft that comes down, and they don’t know what it is, just in a very general sense, if you can speculate – and I understand you might not have definitive knowledge, but I’d like your speculations. It’s going to be probably better than mine.

How often do you think this kind of stuff is happening?

Emery: Daily.

David: Really?

Emery: Yes.

David: DAILY? There’s crashes of UFOs daily?

Emery: Well, they may be . . .

David: I would not have expected that.

Emery: They’re actually identified, because when we say “UFO”, we’re thinking . . .

David: Vehicles.

Emery: Vehicles. But there ARE a lot of vehicles that are recovered from space, or shot down from space, and then recovered and brought back too. And they’re not always, of course, inhabited at all.

David: Right.

Emery: And a lot of these things too, actually, it’s like the Trojan horse. They want us to bring this in here, so we can learn about good technology and can reverse engineer something.

David: A positive Trojan horse.

Emery: Right – a very positive Trojan horse.

David: Not like an AI infestation . . .

Emery: No!

David: . . . that swarm over the planet.

Emery: No, not at all.

David: Okay.

Emery: So, and that’s what . . . It’s so exciting that the scientists do realize that. And a lot of the corporations also learn about that.

The sad part is once they figure it out, it’s forever for it to come to the public for us to use to help make our lives better.

David: All right. I’m still a little reeling here, and probably they are too. Every day? EVERY DAY?

Emery: Yes, every day.

David: Wouldn’t there be people filming this with their phones? Wouldn’t there be incident reports and . . .

Emery: Well, I think there are a lot of abnormal things people are seeing on YouTube and all these things.

David: Okay.

Emery: And probably 90% of them are fake disinformation . . .

David: Right.

Emery: . . . or fake alien reproduction vehicles that they’ll fly by just to make people fearful or whatnot. So there IS this happening.

But you have to understand, this doesn’t happen usually over a major city. These things are usually . . . now are being shot down in XO atmospheric areas and brought back and then brought back very carefully to the surface here.

David: Okay.

Emery: So it’s not always like you shoot a jet down, and you see it streaming down, and kaboom.

David: Right.

Emery: You know, that’s very rare.

David: So in a sense then, if we could liken this in some ways to a war, they are going to be very meticulous about not leaving any vehicles on the battlefield.

Emery: Oh, you will not see any vehicles on the battlefield.

David: Right.

Emery: No.

David: So whatever happens, they bring it in . . .

Emery: It’s intentional

David: They take a look.

Emery: Right.

David: Right. So that would then mean, I would guess, that there probably is some sort of diplomatic relationship with various ET groups. And then when people try to get in and breach that agreement or that contract, if you will, that’s when problems arise? Would you say that’s true?

Emery: Yeah, just like with Eisenhower. I mean, there were some nice, good things happening with the meetings. There have been many presidential meetings with certain ET civilizations.

And I think what happens is just because the president shakes hands with an extraterrestrial doesn’t always mean that the president’s military-industrial complex is also part of that contract.

David: Right.

Emery: And that’s the problem. So we did . . . Hm . . . Our contract is void and null now because of this problem.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: So if you could again speculate – and I understand that this is purely off the top of your head . . .

Emery: Sure.

David: . . . or maybe you have some briefings, I don’t know. If you’re saying that one a day on the average is being recovered, that would be 365 per year, how many of those per year might you think would be unconventional or otherwise requiring a deeper degree of research for them to understand?

Emery: Well, let me get one thing. When I say collecting one a day, it could be a piece of equipment.

David: Ah.

Emery: Okay? It could be an archaeological find, or it could be something from space that they have collected. Or it could be something we shot down.

David: Wow!

Emery: So those are the . . . When I say that, that’s how much data we are getting in on these devices EVERY day.

David: Wow!

Emery: So that’s why it’s growing so much, and so much money is going into these projects, because it’s an unlimited amount of . . . We can’t keep up with what’s happening.

So they’re starting to store these things. And then certain things, certain organizations, are buying massive amounts of satellites to track these things with neutrino light detectors and forming their own ways of getting this technology as well, instead of just the military-industrial complex.

David: I want to run something by you, and it annoys me, okay? So this is a question that I ask out of some degree of anger.

But it very much upset me when I was talking to my insider, Jacob, where he was describing the redundancy of technology. That in some cases they found so much of a certain type of technology, like for example, ruins on the planet Mars, just in case we ever get there in the future, they’ve actually bulldozed over ancient sites and buried them, because they feel like they know what’s there, and they don’t want it to be so easily discovered.

Have you ever heard of things like that going on?

Emery: I’ve heard of things like that going on here on Earth.

David: Really?

Emery: And I wouldn’t pass it by anyone else that that’s happening on Mars as well.

David: So do you think then that the technology that they have in these secret programs is so immensely vast that in a lot of cases they can bring things in, and it’s not really going to advance our knowledge that much?

Emery: It will always, usually 90% of the time, advance our knowledge, yes.

David: Oh, really?

Emery: I mean, if they bring any type of equipment, or bodies, or craft, or whatever it is, we are still learning. We are the medieval people here trying to get a hammer and a wheel made.

So all these little bits and pieces all still fit together sometimes. So you might get a piece today and a piece two years from now, and like, “Ah, here’s the two pieces. Great!”

David: Oh, wow.

Emery: And that’s why it’s important now that a lot of the military-industrial complexes and the military, and the private organizations, are now teaming up for things they can’t figure out, because they’ll work on a project . . . they used to work on projects for maybe five or 10 years without asking for help.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’s kind of like the husband and wife driving around, and the husband is not going to ask and stop for directions whatsoever, because we’re too stubborn.

David: Right.

Emery: So that’s kind of where it’s at now, but it’s different. So they’re sharing information. They’re sharing data but very limitly and very carefully.

David: It does seem to me as if the intellectual capital, the, if you will, financial and informational value of having more skilled employees working on this stuff, it would appear that once we have disclosure, and we can get a lot more, potentially tens or hundreds of millions of people more, working on all this stuff, that we will quantum leap even beyond wherever they are now so much. That’s what I would think.

Emery: Yes. Yeah, there’s still rules, and laws, and regulations universally, but as far as technologically, we will overnight transform the world within like a week.

David: Right.

Emery: I mean, you’ll be able to 3D terraform houses in any place 50′ above the Amazon so you’re not destroying the trees.

David: Wow!

Emery: It’ll be cities will be put up everywhere. I know even our government has contacted me to orchestrate and architect a special city here that’s self-sustainable, that’s off-grid, has its own communications, its own electric, and all this stuff, because they’re preparing to do this model everywhere.

David: Wow!

Emery: And our government is in full support of that, especially POTUS.

David: This doesn’t make me think that we have any overpopulation problem at all. If you have people who can become skilled workers, we want more of them. We should be colonizing. We should be going out and developing inside moons, developing inside other planets and on the surface of these planets.

We don’t need to get rid of people. We need more people.

Emery: Right. We will need more people, because once the intelligence and all of this information comes out, then everyone’s going to be really smart really quick. So then people will be training immediately on this stuff.

And the secret science behind how to do all of that will be revealed.

David: Wow!

Emery: And as soon as that’s revealed, you’re right, it’ll be like taking a flight from LA to New York, but to the Moon or Mars, to help colonize.

David: Yeah.

Emery: And it’ll be that safe and that easy.

David: So I want to make sure we get into the Vatican.

Emery: Okay.

David: You go down this elevator.

Emery: Yes.

David: You’re on an invited mission to try to figure out what the heck this tetrahedron thing is.

Emery: Right.

David: So what do you see? Let’s . . . First, just tell me what the elevator looked like. Anything unusual about the elevator?

Emery: No, it was a very large elevator, larger than normal. You could put a car in it.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Normal elevator. Very clean.

David: Okay. Round, square?

Emery: No, square. Rectangular.

David: Okay. So the doors open, and what do you see?

Emery: We walk in. The floor was white. Walls were white. It was like a black rail.

David: A black rail where?

Emery: There was just like a black rail around the inside of the . . . like a rail you could hold on to.

David: Okay. On the walls?

Emery: Yeah, on the walls, about 3′ up.

David: Okay.

Emery: There’s no windows, no glass, nothing like that. It was just a normal elevator. It was very silent. I didn’t know it actually started moving.

David: Oh!

Emery: It was like the most quietest elevator I’ve ever . . . You know, you usually feel the little bounce.

David: Right. Right.

Emery: There was no bounce. It was like we were sitting actually just talking, whenever we got . . .and when the doors shut, I was like, “Is someone going to push a button or something?”

David: Ha, ha.

Emery: I get antsy, you know?

David: Right.

Emery: And then I was like . . . And all of a sudden, like in a minute, the doors open. I was like, “What? Vatican elevator’s broken?”

David: Are you wearing some kind of uniform or civvies [civilian clothes] at this point, or what?

Emery: I’m wearing civvies, yeah.

David: Okay.

Emery: Yeah, civvies. Nothing special.

David: So you go in after the doors open, . . .

Emery: Right.

David: . . . and what do you see?

Emery: The first thing I see is a giant auditorium-type area. It reminded me . . . and I don’t like referring to movies, but in Harry Potter’s “Hogwarts”, I think it was like the vault system with all the little trolls, where you look up and you see all these square vaults, but it was very rustic.

This was spotless clean. It was beautiful glass everywhere. It was just like . . .

David: Oh, my God!

Emery: . . . these huge cubicles of glass. And some were different sizes. So it was really neat.

And through these cubicles of glass were all these metal strips and lines.

And then there were these platforms about 6′ in diameter that could travel to any of these things.

And there was no jerky movements to them. They just kind of flowed and then could turn, and . . .

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: . . . but only on angles. They didn’t do circles, or anything, to whatever . . . And there were many people on these things doing things with the vaults and looking through them and doing things.

David: Wow!

Emery: But I didn’t get to go . . . I was only on the first floor.

David: So this is kind of different. This is why I wanted you to say this, and why I wanted to do this right now is: the Vatican Library, you think it’s like stacks of books and bookshelves.

Emery: Well . . .

David: This is very different.

Emery: Well, we’re getting to that, . . .

David: Okay.

Emery: . . . because we had to walk through this area to get to that old . . . that other stuff you see in the movies of books everywhere and things like that.

David: But what you’re describing right now is like straight out of a sci-fi movie. It must have been just breathtakingly incredible.

Emery: It was the most amazing thing . . . one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen, . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . because they’re . . . the glass too, I was like, “This is . . .” They keep all this cool equipment behind this glass. I’m thinking, “That’s ridiculous!”

Glass can break, and earthquakes, and, you know, whatever . . . explosions.

And he’s like, “Oh, no. That’s not glass. That’s metal. That’s a type of metal.”

The head director . . .

David: Wow! Like transparent aluminum, maybe, something like that?

Emery: Yeah, it was like a . . . Well, he said it’s a . . . he did . . . He just said it was a metal. It’s not glass.

David: Okay.

Emery: That’s all he said. He didn’t give specifics, and I wasn’t there to learn about the glass, even though I wanted to know.

David: So what was behind the glass? Let’s just be clear about that.

Emery: Many different things. I mean, there was equipment back there that I’ve never seen before.

Some things looked like weapons. Some things looked like scrolls but on big plaques of like kind of a . . . It looked like Plexiglas, like stacks of them.

And they all had their own thing. There’s no labeling on the outside of these doors, so you know.

David: Wow!

Emery: None. No numbers; no symbols. It’s just a gigantic, . . . like six floors of these cubicles.

David: Geez.

Emery: Unreal. I mean . . . And like I said, cubicles there too were as small as a foot (12”). And some were as big as 20′.

David: Was the thing like a hexagon or like a square?

Emery: It was all square.

David: Okay. Wow!

Emery: Yeah, it was all square.

David: Wow!

Emery: So as we were walking, I did notice some equipment that looked like giant . . . those Dorjes, those ancient brass things that they used to hold out.

David: Yeah. In Tibet.

Emery: Yeah, in Tibet.

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I noticed they were in the shape of that, but they were solid, and they were luminous.

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David: Wow!

Emery: And there were no electrical cords going to it at all.

David: I’ve always thought that the double Dorje thing is some kind of technology that they just emulated with these little sculptures they have.

Emery: Right, but this was like a really cool, artistic, modern, ultramodern version.

David: Wow!

Emery: It was really neat with really cool edges on it.

David: Wow!

Emery: And it was glowing. And there was no electrical cords in there or sockets. It was just there.

David: Wow!

Emery: So . . . And you have to understand I wasn’t there for that. So I can’t stop . . . This is not like walking through the Louvre, of course.

David: Yeah.

Emery: We’re on a mission, and you just keep your mouth shut, and we go where we’re going to go, which we wanted to go to the archives to find out about this, this device, or this ship, this craft with this light.

David: So what happened after you got through this majestic crystalline auditorium?

Emery: After we got through that, there was another double doors at the bottom, and they just slid open.

David: Like glass doors, or . . .

Emery: Hm-hmm, glass doors. They just slid open – just like separated.

David: Any noise?

Emery: No noise at all.

David: Wow!

Emery: It was very quiet in there. No echoing, either, which was weird for me, because I thought even like a voice would echo in this room.

David: And when you saw the people on those moving platforms, what were they wearing?

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Emery: They were all in white, like those . . . you know the surgical suits that are made out of that fabric?

David: Ah.

Emery: And they had also on their heads the normal white caps.

David: Wow!

Emery: They’re in a clean suit.

David: Clean room.

Emery: Right, but it wasn’t surgically clean. I think whatever they were doing, they were all holding something and looking at something and looking into the glass.

David: Wow!

Emery: So I don’t know what they were doing at all. I have no clue.

David: And do you think that there was anything beyond the first layer of these cages? Like was there deeper layers beyond one layer, or was it just all on the surface?

Emery: On the first floor where I was, I could not see . . . I mean, it just ended. Some were 10′ deep. Some were 30′ deep. You know, like I said, some were small, like 12” cubes, and some were enormous.

We walked by one that was at least 20′ tall (almost 7 meters).

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah.

David: Amazing.

Emery: Yeah, it is amazing.

David: So what happens after these quiet doors open up? Where do you go next?

Emery: So now we’re in the main library, I believe.

David: Hm.

Emery: And there’s these giant, cylindrical, gas-controlled tubes that are probably anywhere from 6′ to 3′ in diameter. And there’s hundreds of them that go up very, very high.

David: You said 6′ to 3′ in diameter?

Emery: Yeah, 6′ to 3′ in diameter, glass, or whatever – metal, glass, or whatever they call it.

David: Okay.

Emery: And there’s windows on them that open up, and it goes up and down. And they have a thing that they hold, and they can scroll up, and then all those books go down. Like they’re all on shelves, all these books, okay, and all these tablets. And they go up and down.

David: Oh, wow!

Emery: Yeah, up and down inside these cylindrical columns, which I heard were vacuumed and gas-controlled to keep them from getting old.

David: Wow!

Emery: And so they took us to this place and went to this one column. And he just brought it right up – all these different books about this particular craft. And we were able to get all that information.

David: What did the books look like, and how old were they?

Emery: Well, it looks like these books were actually translated from another book that someone wrote, because they said a lot of this was all translated. So it was all perfectly written and typed, like very new . . . just like today, like nothing fancy at all, to be honest.

David: Okay.

Emery: It was in binders and folders and whatnot. So it wasn’t fancy or futuristic.

David: Okay.

Emery: It was just a huge database. But in many columns I looked at were very old things, like very leather-looking books.

And I noticed one had blocks in it. And I thought they were blocks, but they were tablets with information on them.

David: Did any of the leather books have a color cover, like a bright color?

Emery: Yes, I did see one that had many . . . like one of the columns had many colors in it, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . and many sizes too. Like I saw one shelf had 6′ books.

David: Wow!

Emery: Yeah, it looked like books. I mean, it was far away, maybe 30′ away.

David: Well, when Peterson described his trip into the Vatican, he said that a lot of the books were leather-bound and that they had buckles on them . . .

Emery: Yes.

David: . . . and that they were color . . . like bright colors, like a bright red, bright green.

Emery: Yes. Yes, yes, I saw that, and it was very thick.

David: Wow!

Emery: The leather was very thick, and they did have metal on them. I’ve seen a lot of that just walking to where we had to go.

David: So did you guys get to take the book and bring it to a reading area, like a table or something?

Emery: Yeah, no, he pulled it out. And there’s tables everywhere that are off the ground on pedestals, and he just laid it out on this 6′ glass pedestal, or whatever it was, glass or not glass. I’ll just call it metal glass.

And he opened it up, and he is the one who shows us. We can’t touch it, actually.

David: Oh.

Emery: So he shows like, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And there was also a translator that was there, because the English was not that good.

And there were two other of their technicians there that upkeep, like library bookkeepers. So that was really interesting, librarians.

So the next thing that happened is they opened it up, and he just started scrolling through. And we were looking at it. I was looking at it with the two scientists.

And this is what we wanted. It was like exactly what . . .

So then we asked him if he had anything else that was similar to this. And he did.

David: Hm.

Emery: So then he took us to another area and showed us another book. And they actually had sketches of the same exact thing . . .

David: Wow!

Emery: . . . that was ancient.

David: Really?

Emery: I mean, I don’t know how old it was, but it was pretty old because it wasn’t written on paper – this giant sketch scroll that someone, some monk, had drawn.

And it had a lot of physics on it, and it was all in a different language.

So we were able to get a picture of that downloaded, and we got a copy of that book, and we escorted that back to home.

David: Did you get a sense from just what was spoken out loud or translated as to what this thing was or where it had come from, anything that specific?

Emery: No, because once I got back, I was pulled off of that project. All I can tell you is it was, I think, I believe, an intentional device that was put here to help. And then that was it. I’ve never had a part of that project again.

David: When it was in this foreign language, and you said it wasn’t really like a book, what was it on? What did it look like?

Emery: It looked like wax paper.

David: Hm.

Emery: Yeah, and it looked like it was black wax paper. I think you could maybe . . . as you wrote on it, whatever that stuff was would peel off so you could write on it.

David: Hm.

Emery: It looked like something like that.

David: Wow!

Emery: But I wasn’t able to touch it at all, but it was the exact same device – I mean the exact same craft, but it was a lot larger in form. It was probably 10 times larger from this person’s . . . Whoever sketched this, it was 10 times larger than the one we had.

David: So how do you think that idea that we discussed about people starting to be trained as disclosure happens? How do you see that unfolding?

Emery: Well, the first thing that’s going to happen is everyone’s going to want to know where to go.

“I want to be this person. I want to help. I want to know how to grow something overnight – a tomato. You know, I want to know about anti-gravity – how I can make my car float.”

So people are going to want to know right away, and it’s going to be up to the government what kind of information is going to be released to the universities and public, because they’re going to do it correctly.

They are going to do it through probably universities first.

David: Right.

Emery: And hopefully, a lot of the other scientists that are out there will pick up on what they’re doing. And then they’ll be able to live stream it and have a source way to get it to the public, where other people can just start thinking about it, because you have to free-source everything in order to stimulate the entire planet into wanting to do something instead of holding it in universities and saying, “Well, you have to learn this first, and dah, dah, dah, dah.”

David: Right.

Emery: But I think the education part will also be a lot easier in learning this stuff, because with the advent of all these new technologies coming out, also comes out technologies how to learn faster, . . .

David: Yeah.

Emery: . . . how to take care of yourself better. You know, a lot of these things are daily things that we do are going to be much simpler.

David: Very cool.

Emery: Yeah.

David: All right. Well, thank you, Emery, for being here. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest, Emery Smith.