David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I am here with Emery Smith, continuing our fascinating discussion into underground civilizations.
Emery, welcome back.
Emery Smith: Well, thanks, Dave. I can’t wait to get into this one.
David: So one of the things that I’m curious about, because there’s a lot of light bulbs going off in my head right now, we have the crash site in Antarctica that we’ve already talked about before.
David: You said there’s a very massive . . . You confirmed independently, a very massive mothership there . . .
David: . . . that we’ve been studying for how long?
Emery: As far as I know, through these scientists, 24 years.
David: Okay. And we have some kind of connection between that wreckage and the underground civilization that you described in Ecuador, . . .
David: . . . which you said is actually . . . started maybe as a craft, but then it got built out or something?
Emery: Yeah. I think the energy of the craft must have stimulated . . . must have had also organisms on it, or bacteria, because it changed the inside of the cavern into a different atmosphere, even.
And the creatures that are down there and the plant life and stuff is completely different than the surface. And they have taken creatures out of there, brought them to the surface, and they instantly died.
David: Can you breathe the air without an apparatus?
Emery: Yes. It’s the cleanest air. I felt great down there, actually. And they’ve already tested it over and over and over.
This is a new find, by the way, that I’m aware of.
David: Just to recap this Ecuador thing briefly, one of the pieces of intel we got from Pete Peterson, he talked at great length about how the ship in Antarctica had . . . that when you lived in the place in the ship, that you had your own yard. And there was like a filtration system of, like, from the bathroom, from your shower, from the toilet, that would go in and feed this garden.
And so obviously, this was buried under the ice, and so everything was destroyed.
But now what you’re telling me about Ecuador makes me wonder if maybe the vegetation in THAT ship in your own yard would have looked similar.
David: What would your thoughts be on that?
Emery: Yeah. I think there’s a definite correlation between that and there. These are two completely different environments, of course, now, so I would expect different things to happen chemically. But that’s still open for observation.
I know they have a really good team down there, and they’re not mistreating it and just chopping it all up and taking it all out. So we’ll see what happens.
David: Now, another thing that has all kinds of light bulbs popping off in my head is that the oldest of the Antarctica wreckage that I’ve heard about, from more than one source, is, apparently, 33-feet-tall giants.
Emery: Oh, yes. Yes.
David: Have you heard anything like that?
Emery: Yes, I’ve heard about that.
David: Okay. What did you hear specifically?
Emery: That there was a lot of other sarcophagi and a lot of other extraterrestrials, bodies down there, that were over 30 feet tall that they have already found excavated. Some were removed. Some were not, of course.
They’re trying to build a story now behind everything and slowly release it to the public in a very calm way, because it goes against, of course, all the stuff that we’ve been brought up to believe as far as where we come from and religion.
So they’re going to just slowly seep these things out.
One of the amazing things that we found at this other place that we were talking about earlier . . .
David: In America?
Emery: . . . in America, was a 33-foot being inside a sarcophagi in a state of stasis.
Emery: So this is kind of a pre-Adamite-type being we believe. And, of course, the pyramids are nearby. That empty block cube-rooms are nearby.
The five acres of white-powdered gold is nearby, and this is where the steps descend down into the hollowed out meteorite, or whatever you want to call it – the hollowed out Earth rock that is suspended mass around an aquifer.
David: Right. So regarding stasis beings, we have heard from Corey, some of the most recent briefings he got, and I believe Peterson had this too, that they found stasis beings that were 500,000 years old in the earliest Antarctica city of the . . .
You know, there’s a very, very ancient one.
David: It’s over a billion years old, apparently, but then the recent one of 500,000 years ago had this EXACT same thing you just described. So that is amazing.
Did you hear about similar stasis beings in Antarctica? I’m curious.
Emery: No, I did not. No, I did not hear about any stasis beings that were in Antarctica. They did not talk about that.
And there’s many teams, just so you know.
And this team was only a team of four scientists.
Emery: There’s thousands of scientists on this project down there that work for different governments and our government, and that are trying to cover up things and keep things also preserved.
And as I said, I don’t believe the craft actually crashed there either. I really think the craft actually was there and just stayed there. And whatever happened happened at that time, whether it was a cataclysmic event or whatnot.
Emery: And now, the snow is melting, and Earth is going to be the Full Disclosure. Ha, ha.
David: Ha, ha. When we’re looking at Antarctica being such a subject of interest, one of the insiders I spoke to said that there was a dark agenda, to some degree, for disclosing Antarctica.
They felt that it would be able to create a religious war.
Just speculating, . . .
David: . . . why do you think that might be?
Emery: Well, everything down there is just going to destroy organized religion as we know it.
David: Why do you think it would?
Emery: Because they have found tablets and information and intelligence down there that’s proving the history of Mars and the Moon and the history of this area of the universe. I’ll say this area of the universe.
And they’re starting to decipher it now.
So that being brought up would cause, probably, a huge conflict. And that’s what they’re worried about is us misbehaving because of our religious beliefs.
David: Right. So, it doesn’t necessarily mean that Jesus was fake or Moses was fake or Muhammad was fake.
Emery: Oh, no. You’re right. All these avatars have lived here and have been here and have been these amazing gods and people.
What’s going to happen is, if they did bring up everything, it just . . . Let’s just say the stories that are being told are not completely told to the full extent. There’s gaps and things that are missing, and this will fill all those gaps.
And it’s like an unfinished book with ALL the religions.
Emery: So this will fill in all those loose gaps, and every one actually will come correct.
But of course, I’m sure some will not. Some maybe won’t believe it.
To believe something your entire life and then have an archaeologist bring something up to the surface that says something different, it could cause some turmoil in the world.
David: So you’re saying that this massive boulder that was found somewhere in America at an undisclosed location has remains of giants in it.
Emery: Yes, correct.
David: And could you explain a little bit more. You mentioned armor. You mentioned skeletons.
Emery: A lot of skeletons and armor, lots of gold and silver, and the old medieval-type treasure stuff that you would find, lots of coins, lots of pots full of coins.
David: But I thought I also heard you say that you felt like the entire interior of the egg was also stuffed with white gold.
Emery: Yeah. There’s about five acres that we determined of powdered white gold in there in a separate section.
David: Oh. So it’s not like the whole entire egg is filled with white gold?
Emery: No, just one small section.
David: Cavities that people could use and walk around in?
Emery: Yes, yes, right. And these steps are fairly large steps. They’re not just your normal steps – anywhere from 8′ to 13′.
Emery: Coming up and down.
David: So giants for sure – 33′. Right, 8′ for a 33′ tall being.
Emery: It would be just about right.
David: Would be just about right. Ha, ha.
How clean are the steps? How do they look?
Emery: Well, using the technology we have, they’re flawless, kind of like how the pyramids and Machu Picchu was built. Everything is just such a perfect edge.
And that’s how we knew. It was like, no way could Earth have created this.
David: Hm. And you’re saying that, hypothetically, if you have a submarine, and you know where to go, you could navigate into the Earth and swim right up to this boulder.
Emery: That aquifer, unfortunately, has a small inlet in and a small inlet out. It’s just this hollowed area that does hold a lot of water.
So we didn’t see any large areas that a submarine could fit into.
David: Oh, okay.
Emery: And that’s why we just started from the surface of the Earth and just decided to drill on down, just drill straight down til we hit it, and then worry about it from there.
But the problem was three feet of water, you know, with millions of pounds of pressure.
David: Now, you were describing this very strange idea, which I remember you did have me talk to the scientist who invented this for a while, something about this light that gold emanates that seems to penetrate matter and can be detected by certain people who maybe are psychic. Is it like remote viewing?
Emery: Well, no, it’s not like remote viewing. They actually have different cones in their eyes and stuff that can see many different wavelengths of blue and gray light.
So for some reason, they can look across the ocean and see a place that has a large amount of gold, unlike how our treasure hunters today. We don’t have that capability.
So we pay off people in the government and use satellites or borrow satellites from corporations to look through the ocean.
But these treasures that are most amazing, unfortunately, are on land, below the land, in land. So it’s a different type of treasure hunting now, as you can see.
One of the funny things, some of the treasure hunters that taught me that were very famous . . . I said, “Well, how do you guys always find the gold?” Because not everyone has a chance to use a satellite.
And they said, “Well, if we know of an area that someone says has gold, we’ll go down there and scoop up all the seaweed. And then we’ll take it home and feed it to all the rats.
“And we’ll wait for the rats to poop, and then we’ll see the gold. And then we’ll go back and take the gold.”
David: Nuggets in the . . .
Emery: So they’ll measure the rat poop using, I think, a spectrometer or something . . . some sort of device. And then they . . .
David: Wow! Very interesting.
Emery: Ha, ha. Isn’t that crazy?
David: That stuff you couldn’t make up. It’s just too weird.
Emery: So anyway, these famous people, these famous treasure hunters that are really great people that were in charge of this – amazing people, loving people, giving people, because they want to give . . . They don’t want to keep this treasure. They want to give it back to the world and create things for the world.
David: I want to go out on a limb here and ask you this. I kind of get the sense what you’re saying is that maybe there’s a certain strain of extraterrestrial DNA that’s seeded into human population.
And those people, whether they’re aware of it or not, might have a slightly different optical apparatus, slightly different retinal tissue that, if they became aware of what they could do, they could learn that they would see this unusual efflorescence around where a gold deposit is. Is that true?
Emery: It could be. Not only that, but also that somehow, they were downloaded from an extraterrestrial to increase their vision and have an upgrade. We call them “upgrades”.
So there are certain people and very, highly special agents that work at the highest levels that have these special abilities. They use these special abilities for whatever, whoever, they are working for.
What’s interesting is, inside that cavern is also some other things that we have found that shows the lineage from where everyone came from. Yeah.
And that’s one of the biggest gifts we could have. And it’s hard for me to say that.
That’s the biggest secret that’s down there is the secret to all of us and where we came from and the lineage of our DNA and what it contains and also instructions on how to read that DNA and instructions on how to build stargates and open up portals and things like that.
So it’s a plethora of not only religious artifacts and extraterrestrial artifacts, but it’s also got a lot of amazing tools in there that we could use.
And maybe we’re just not ready for it yet to be opened.
David: So how was this scientist . . . And I understand I might be treading into areas that are talking “out of school”, too classified for you to mention, but I just want to see how close we can get.
Did this scientist, for example, have the ability to see these weird colors himself, or did he find somebody who could?
Was the technology in some way based on the organic function?
Emery: No. He was born this way.
Emery: So he was a gifted person who joined the military and was an amazing remote viewer and became right up at the highest echelon of people to go to when they need to find something, or someone. And he’s very well respected amongst his peers.
David: Could you explain . . . just because I’m sure people are going to be really curious about this. I know I am.
If you had those special rods and cones in your eye, what would you see? Would it look like misty fog or exactly what?
Emery: I don’t think they . . . No, from what I’ve gathered, and this is second-hand information, that they see just like we do.
However, if they’re looking, of course, for something, it’s just off just like one small frequency of light. It just means maybe your shirt . . . I can see many blues in it, a couple of different blues because of the dyes. They didn’t dye it correctly.
Now, a normal person would just see a blue shirt, but I would see maybe a couple of strands of cotton there, or Rayon, that was a little different.
So it’s not throwing them off tremendously.
David: So are you saying that the number of different unique colors . . .
David: . . . that these people can see is more than average?
Emery: Yes, absolutely.
David: By how much?
Emery: Well, I know they can see up to 10 different wavelengths of just one color. And I’ve heard of 20.
Emery: So that’s a lot to break down one color. And that’s, like I told you, that was second-hand information.
David: So you’re saying that there would be some . . . that they can still somehow detect things that would be underground, like a gold vein underground?
Emery: Because of the flora and the plants and the rocks . . .
Emery: . . . all emanate from the gold reservoir down there. It seeps up and gives it this special energy. And this energy is then emanated into the atmosphere, kind of like orgonite can control things in the sky, the energy that it gives off.
David: Well, that’s one of the things that’s so interesting is this idea of Wilhelm Reich, when he was working with orgone energy, apparently started to develop a bluing of his skin.
David: And he often associated orgone energy with a bluish light.
Emery: Ha, ha.
David: In fact, I have multiple episodes on this in “Wisdom Teachings”, my other show, where he’s finding life spontaneously forming with what he calls bions.
And the bions appear as these little blue corpuscles that seemingly come out of nothing and then coalesce into proteins and biological matter.
David: So if that is the essence of life, then is there some connection between gold and biological life?
Emery: Well, it’s not just gold. Orbitally rearranged monatomic elements is what you want to look at.
You want to look at the elements that we’re made up of when we are brought into this world as a baby.
We never get those elements ever again from our food or our water. These are palladium and rhodium and iridium, you know, and all these different types of elements that are the trace elements that we need in our DNA to evolve.
Emery: So, of course, there’s many places that make ORMEs. You know, you’ve got to be careful.
David: Well, I remember hearing that rhodium . . . If you capped the DNA molecule with rhodium, it becomes far more electrically conductive than . . .
Emery: So I’m a big, strong believer in ORMEs. I take it pretty much every day, zeolite too. These things help with aligning the DNA for it to work correctly with the right voltage.
If it’s not the right voltage, we can’t really fix ourselves. If it’s not the right voltage, we can’t evolve beyond where we’re at now.
David: Let me just point this out too, which is that the research I’ve done into what you’re calling ORMEs, or orbitally rearranged monatomic elements, is that they are actually what some scientists call microclusters, meaning that, if you allow atoms to come out of a nozzle one at a time, they will preferentially cluster into these beautiful geometric, sacred geometry patterns, three-dimensional patterns like a cube, octahedron, dodecahedron, icosahedron.
And the molecules will actually form into that. And somehow, once it has that structure, it’s much more electrically resistant on the outside, conductive on the inside, much harder, much more resistant to temperature, to wear.
It has all these amazing qualities, and it seems to nourish the body.
So why do you think the sacred geometry connection is so important?
Emery: Because that’s what we are made up of. That is THE smallest particles beyond the electron that we are made up of that allows us to actually, in some point in time, transdimensionally travel.
David: So you would confirm then, that part of the classified science is that when you get down to the real ground state of matter, that it is sacred geometry?
Emery: Absolutely, yes.
David: Right. Could you give me any further specifics of any briefing you might have had on that? What were you told exactly?
Emery: Well, we were dealing a lot with magnetic energy and magnets and permanent magnets and trying to do a lot of things with magnets and change the flux field, the north and south polarities.
And then using special equipment, zoom in after we changed these different shapes of magnets, not your normal north-south cube magnet, and change these angles, and then zoom in there and see: what is going on at that level of these two magnetic, permanent magnetic, energies coming together with different flux fields at different angles.
Emery: And at that level, which has not been completed, is these shapes.
David: Geometries. Wow!
Emery: These sacred geometries.
Emery: So they believe by changing flux fields, they can actually open up portals. They can open up different energy for our DNA. They can help us heal. A lot of different things can happen.
But, you know, that’s still in that state of it’s not been proven.
David: You said before something to the effect of . . . that you feel perhaps higher-level extraterrestrials still have us under some kind of quarantine or management of some kind, that even if we got all this technology, it’s not like we could necessarily just do whatever we want. Could you explain that a little more?
Emery: Well, I mean, the extraterrestrials, they’re not going to just come on down here and give us everything for free, because we have to evolve on our own . . . you know, our own consciousness and treat each other well and not cut each other’s heads off and behave.
Emery: And then everyone always asks me about the evil aliens.
And I’m like, “Yeah! There’s evil aliens. And there’s good and bad aliens and all this.”
And they’re like, “What are the BAD ones like?”
I said, “Just go in the bathroom and look in the mirror.”
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: “Why is that?”
I said, “Because we’re killing each other. We’re not supposed to be killing each other.”
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: Ha, ha. Even though that’s a control thing. You know, we’re being controlled to do these things.
So that being said, because of our misbehaving sometimes, you know . . . And they were here before, too. They were like us. They evolved from out of what we are now, too.
And they have come back from the past, you know, Rendlesham Forest. They’ve come back from the past to visit and come out of that pyramid . . .
. . . and witnessed by what, 33, over 100 people, I think, or 33 people.
Emery: And the message was, “Stop what you’re doing with all these nukes, because we’re your children’s children’s children’s children’s children’s children. And if you keep doing this, we’re not going to exist, . . .
Emery: . . . which is interesting because that means there’s no time. And now you’re going to be like getting screwed around in your head thinking about that.
But basically, there IS no time. And time is just something that we made up to survive here in the 3D. And there’s many other different dimensions.
And we’re learning how to travel interdimensionally safely.
David: What might some of the limitations be that certain ETs would impose on us right now that would restrict our total freedom?
Like, what would be some of the things that if we tried to do it that we wouldn’t succeed, or that we would be blocked?
Emery: Yeah, I think if we try to destroy more than 75% of the population of the Earth, they will intervene.
I think if we try to poison the Earth permanently, let’s say through Fukushima or our own accident, they will intervene.
So I think it’s things like this where, if it’s going to be a complete, mass de-populization, or we’re really killing more than 75% of humans or animals on the planet, including the oceans, that there will be definite intervention.
Of course, if any type of nuclear missile or backpack, or whatever it is, is activated that would destroy more than 75% of the population of the Earth, they will intervene.
So not to say one would, but all it takes is one of those to go off and contaminate the atmosphere, and we’re going to have a rough 50 years.
David: Well, it also seems like there’s a lot of other people living here besides us, maybe not on the surface, but they’re definitely here.
Emery: That’s right.
David: And they don’t want THEIR land to be damaged either.
Emery: That is correct, yes. So there’s other extraterrestrial beings that live within the Earth. There’s also ancient beings that have lived here forever, not extraterrestrial, but they’ve just been here, probably since the dawn of time, the Inner Earth beings.
And that’s something we could talk about on a different show.
David: Sure. Now, when you mentioned these traversable aquifers under the oceans, or under the continents, one of the things I was reminded of was a briefing that Corey got, something he actually saw, which was these massive halls, kind of flat on the bottom, rounded off at the top, VERY, very large, underwater, that you could actually sail a submarine through . . .
. . . and that they were very straight and went over very long distances, and that apparently, some of our guys used one of those to get to Antarctica from further up north.
I’m wondering if you’ve heard about buildouts of tunnels?
Emery: Yes. They’re man-made though. They are not . . . They weren’t made by the Earth.
David: Well, they are ancient though. They’re not made by OUR humans, right, because that’s Corey’s . . .
Emery: Right. That’s what I’m saying.
Emery: Yeah, there’s . . .
David: That’s what he meant, yeah.
Emery: There’s caverns that they’ve found in North America and Mexico that go straight through the Earth towards Antarctica.
And those caverns have been modified. I don’t know by who or when, but they’ve been modified into lava tubes, like perfect, large, football field-size tubes that these submarines and other modes of transportation . . . very high-speed by the way, in these waterways. It’s its own traffic.
That does go not only to Antarctica but all the way back around.
David: Back around to where?
Emery: To the same spot.
David: To the Americas?
Emery: Without getting near the core.
David: Do they have any idea when they were built or by who?
Emery: I don’t know the history of it. I just know they exist, through satellite imagery and through radar and through briefings.
David: And these tunnels that are the larger ones that go to Antarctica, are they all submerged in water, or are some of them just voids that are in the land that have air?
Emery: They are small parts of tunnels that go to cavern to cavern to cavern, but they all are connected to a cavern . . .
Emery: . . . and they are all full of water.
David: And the caverns are full of water too?
Emery: Yes. Yeah, it’s a giant aquifer, like I was telling you, that’s connected. And I think because of these tunnels, that there’s been infiltration to all the aquifers of the planet.
David: One of the briefings I got from Pete Peterson recently was that some elements of the Alliance are worried about the habitability of the surface of the Earth, and that they’ve started pumping out some of these very large caverns underground to be able to have more space for people when they will need it, and that one of the side effects has been that all these weird creatures that shouldn’t exist are washing up on the shoreline.
And I’m wondering if you’ve heard anything about that particular plan or that operation?
Emery: I do know about the build-out of caverns, 100%. That’s true.
And the pumping out of these caverns and sealing them off, that’s true.
As far as the beings coming up from Inner Earth, or something like that, I don’t doubt it, because there are inner atmospheres in the Earth with their own lifeforms that have never been discovered or told to the population.
So it’s very possible that, in a cavern that has its own spring, that one of these things came up from its own world and then made it to the surface.
Emery: And not only that, every day, they’re discovering in the oceans a new form of plankton and bacteria and things like that. Like, every day, they’ve made discoveries. And every day we’re also having a loss of life of different species.
So it’s interesting that right now, especially the things that are coming down from space, . . . You know, we have these giant satellites in space that just collect. It’s like a giant air filter. And they send these things up, and they come back down.
Or they will send the weather balloons up, and they get all filled up. And they have these amazing new bacteria that’s never published . . .
David: Very cool.
Emery: . . . that is from space. And just like we were talking about that water bear guy . . . What’s that guy called?
Emery: Tardigrade. They live in the vacuum of space, and they come back and they’re fine.
David: Still alive.
Emery: These are amazing things. And I was part of some of those projects, too, where they were trying to find out how we could be like that.
Emery: I’d rather keep the body.
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: Ha, ha.
David: Well, even though you said there’s no time, we are out of time in this episode
Emery: Oh, okay.
David: So come back next time.
Emery: All right. Well, thanks for having me.
David: Thank you. And thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, here with Emery Smith.
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