Cosmic Disclosure: Deeper Disclosures from William Tompkins

David Wilcock: All right, welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, and I’m here with the insider’s insider, Corey Goode, who has brought us a truly incredible repository of cosmic information that has now been verified by the insider William Tompkins, who at 94 years old, is a World War II veteran who has provided stunning corroboration of what Corey has had to tell us.

So, Corey, welcome to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So what we’re going to do now is we’re going to begin with a little excerpt of some of the things that Tompkins has been sharing with us about the amount of unlearning that is going to be necessary as we move into Full Disclosure. Let’s take a look.

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William Tompkins: People all over this planet, for at least 6,000 years, have been influenced by extraterrestrials: the Dracos and the Reptilians.

They have taken the information that is in, essentially, every school on the planet and they’ve modified the information. All history documentation in this country and in every country on the planet have been given lies about astronomy, lies about mathematics, lies about technical capabilities, lies about the universe, you name it. Okay?

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Everything have been lies. Every PhD on this planet, whether they’re scientific, whether they’re medical, makes no difference. Every book that they read the six years they were in the university are lies. They are not telling the truth. They were not taught the truth.

At that time [when World War II began], we had 34 admirals in the Navy. All of them had been through Annapolis. They learned how to learn everything about the Navy, everything about history, everything about mathematics, everything about astronomy, you name it. They learned all lies.

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So who did the Secretary of the Navy Forrestal select for this job?

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Turns out Admiral Rico Botta was not an American. He was born in Australia. The Secretary of the Navy selected an Australian man who had not been infected with the lies that the Reptilians had taught us. He was freer of that.

So the Secretary of the Navy was aware of this because he had been contacted by Nordic extraterrestrials, people here trying to help United States. Okay? Very important point.

So when I was selected, I hadn’t been to the universities. I hadn’t gotten the bad information. I hadn’t been given the wrong information. And this is the reason I was selected, because I was knowledgeable of the Navy, I was knowledgeable of what the threats were, but I hadn’t gone to the university and picked up all the lies. Very important.

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David: Corey, how do you feel about that? That’s a pretty bold, cowboy statement that Tompkins just made here.

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Corey: It was common knowledge in the programs. They would talk quite often about how the physics models that we’re using down here on the planet are incorrect. And they have not been corrected on purpose.

They use different hyperdimensional mathematics models than what are used down here. You know, the physics models, . . . You know, we’re still on this quantum and, you know, classical physics model.

David: Sure.

Corey: While they are deeply into this electro-plasmic universe model of physics, which is the true model.

And another thing he mentioned was that they wanted people that had not been, I guess, corrupted by this incorrect education. That is VERY COMMON in the programs.

That’s why they were taking children in, because we were not front-loaded yet on different religious ideas, social programming. A lot of that hadn’t occurred yet. So they had basically a blank slate to work with.

David: It is interesting isn’t it, the government studies that have shown that if they did disclosure, the two groups that would be the most hard hit by it would be religious people and scientists.

Corey: Yep, the academics.

David: So do you think that this science itself becomes a religion?

Corey: Absolutely. We spend life using every experience or information that we’ve heard from people we respect, we use that as little pieces of sand to grind into a lens that we use to hold up to all information coming in to interpret it.

Those are all belief systems. They’re all religions, even science.

David: Yeah. He also mentioned astronomy. And where do you think astronomy has fallen short?

Corey: I think that keeping astronomers ignorant of the electro-plasmic universe model sums it up.

David: Right.

Corey: They are making calculations on what they’re observing and using incorrect math to make the calculations.

David: If we’re acknowledging that Reptilians exist, how would that happen?

Corey: Well, you often hear that the “victors write the history”. Beings that are in control dictate what the minions get to hear.

David: Right.

Corey: And it’s all done for control purposes. If you keep people ignorant, it’s a throwback to people not being allowed to read back in . . . thousands of years ago, or currently in some places now even.

You’re keeping people ignorant so they don’t begin to think, or they don’t have the ability to do further research on their own. They have to go by what they are told.

David: So when you say “the minions”, you’re saying that we have various pressure points in our informational system, our educational system, that can be manipulated. Humans are being manipulated, maybe wittingly, maybe unwittingly, by an extraterrestrial agenda in terms of what information makes it into the universities.

Corey: Yes. They’ve been able to get us to program ourselves through social norms – what’s socially acceptable. That’s programming. That’s a control system.

And the same goes for educational systems.

David: So how does this play out in terms of other civilizations that go through the same thing? What would we expect to see as this knowledge embargo breaks down?

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Corey: If you remember Mica, he’s an ambassador from a nearby planet, that they’ve already gone through all of this change that we’re starting to go through.

And what he stated is that after we get the truth, or a full data dump of a Full Disclosure, we’re going to go through – after we go through the five stages of grief, you know, denial and all that – we’re going to go through a consciousness renaissance.

All these brilliant people that are scribbling down these math equations that they think are so brilliant, and they are given this hyperdimensional model? They’ve still got brilliant brains.

And they’re going to take this correct science and mathematics and they’re going to run with it.

David: How does our relationship to the universe change once the science is authentically given, instead of this reduced model?

What do we look like now as conscious, sentient beings in this universe?

Corey: If you take away a lot of the mystery of the universe, you’re empowering people both intellectually and spiritually. They’ve got a lot more room to grow.

David: What do you think it does to consciousness once this science suppression is removed? How do we see consciousness differently?

Corey: Consciousness, I believe, is going to evolve to the point to where we are able to – when we have these correct models, we have Full Disclosure, we have a better understanding of the nature of the universe – we’re going to be able to not only understand our place in the universe, but our place on the planet and in our various societies.

David: Do you think that it will be more commonly accepted that consciousness is a field and not just something localized in the brain?

Corey: That’s one of the sciences that has been suppressed. So, yes, that will be revealed.

David: What personal experience did you have with that science being suppressed in your programs?

Corey: Well, it was just common knowledge that the powers of the human consciousness were being suppressed on the Earth, because our co-creative consciousness interacts with matter, because we can interact with matter.

The same people that are controlling what we learn scientifically, they’re able to control us by causing us to . . . It’s like the root of their magic.

They will create a catalyst and cause us to manifest something into occurring.

David: What do you think happens when we get to this idea that there is only one consciousness in the universe? How does that affect us once that becomes public?

Corey: Well, we figure out that we are all One. We’re not as different and separated as we think we are.

David: Cool. All right. So in our next segment, we’re going to go more into detail about the packages that Tompkins referred to only briefly in other episodes.

I really didn’t understand all the semantic depth of the word “package” until I got this knowledge. And I think you’re going to be really fascinated too. Let’s take a look.

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William Tompkins: They found out about extraterrestrials advising the SS in Germany and Hitler on how to build massive spacecraft carriers, how to build massive space cruisers to operate with the Reptilian Draco space navy.

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Now, what this turned out to be, after I got heavily into this, was this is the first time anybody in the United States knew that extraterrestrials were actually here on the planet and actually were working with Germany, had agreed, legal agreements, with Hitler.

We then had these Navy spies, which we had operating there 24 hours a day from 1942 to the end of the war.

I worked in that office. The Admiral’s aide would wake me up after 12 o’clock at night. He would tap me on the shoulder in the barracks.

All he would say is, “He’s here.” I would get up, dress real fast. The aide would take me over to the tall building, the command center. We’d go upstairs to a small office at the top of that building, not the regular big Operation Command rooms, small office.

The Admiral would be sitting at the head of the table. The operative would be on the backside. I’m sitting next to the Admiral and one of the three captains is sitting next to me. The typist is sitting on the other side at the end of the table.

But actually what the operatives brought were perspective sketches of different research that’s going on inside of laboratories.

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They took photographs of the Germans next to the UFOs. Some of them were only 40 feet in diameter. Some were 250 foot in diameter.

So to try to put a perspective on this, these documents then, we put together what was called packages.

These types of packages, which are contracts to all of the Army, all of the Navy aerospace organizations’ laboratories, and all of the aircraft companies, biomedical research companies, all over the United States.

Everybody got at least one package. Many people got as many as 10 or 12 packages to study. That was going on the whole length of the war.

It’s a contract that they are required to implement the study. They’re not being asked, “Are you interested?” No. So it’s a different contract, okay? It’s a requirement.

And, of course, it’s way above “Top Secret”, but we don’t have the documents stamped that way.

So the package then contains all this different information about, say, communications. All of it totally unreal to any possible engineering group.

So, like say, your President of Engineering at Northrop. The package that you guys got was in German. Okay? Some of it was in hieroglyphics. Nothing that you had in a package would be understandable.

You don’t know the mathematics. You don’t know the writing. You don’t understand the photographs. You don’t understand the rough sketches that the Navy operative makes.

So you’re handed a box full of very poor information. You are required to take that and run with it, but you have no background. You don’t have any book on any subject that you can flip through the pages to try to figure out what this even is.

You don’t even know it’s communications. It might be part of a propulsion system.

So this is why it was so difficult for all these people that got a package to take this and try to figure out what it is. Yes, it was a big learning curve for the Germans and the SS, but they had the vehicles.

We just had paper and a couple of parts. I mean, it was very difficult for the United States with the top people in the country to take this and then come up with, “How do I copy this? How do I make one of those? What is it?”

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David: So Corey, the first thing that jumped out at me in what we just saw was when he said that he was woken up at midnight, and that that was when he was taken up to have this meeting in which they’re actually putting these so-called “packages” together.

Why do you think it was necessary for him to be woken up in the middle of the night to do this work that . . . I mean, wouldn’t there be a secure room that he could go to during the day? Why do you think that was necessary?

Corey: Most likely it had to do for the security of the operative. They want to bring him in when there’s a skeleton crew at night taking care of regular duties.

It’s going to make it easier for them to sneak the person in.

David: So people don’t see it. There’s less espionage potential?

Corey: Right.

David: Okay. And he mentioned that some of what these people were able to get out of Nazi Germany, these – he didn’t mention the number, but it was 23 embedded spies – he’s said that before – all throughout World War II – included photographs of people, soldiers, I guess, standing in front of UFO-type craft that could be anywhere between 50~240, I think he said, feet in diameter.

I’m curious as to whether any of those documents survived and whether you got to see any of them while you were in the programs.

Corey: There were stuff like that all through the glass pads. But sort of like how he was describing, a lot of the information, it wasn’t contiguous. It was kind of just haphazardly there.

You’d go through a lot of information that I didn’t understand. There would be photos. There were many photos of Germans and craft.

David: He also mentioned hieroglyphics. And that might be something that our viewers were wondering why that would have occurred. What would the hieroglyphics be?

Corey: The hieroglyphics could be a security code, but in this case, it sounds like no one understood what they were. So they were most likely nonterrestrial script of some sort, iconography.

David: So this could be something that a spy maybe had a spy camera and took a picture of something that was on an extraterrestrial craft. And maybe he even didn’t know what it was, but he’s just smuggling out that intel? Something like that?

Corey: Right. Yes. Lots of bits and pieces. Back then, especially, there was no computer terminal they could go to and download things to a thumb drive and then go back to their superiors. They had to be very careful. But they were just getting little bits and pieces.

And they would have like a diagram. The diagram they would bring back; they would give to the people.

And if they didn’t have anything to add verbally about what the diagram was about, they would have to reverse engineer just a diagram.

David: Are there extraterrestrials, to your knowledge, that would use some type of hieroglyphic language?

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Corey: Yes. Most of the written languages are a type of glyph or looks like hieroglyphic. And one character or symbol can mean different things depending on the context it’s used [in]. And one character can mean quite a bit.

We’re pretty limited in using just one character at a time.

David: Sure. He mentioned that some of the groups that were getting these packages were biomedical. Why do you think that would be?

Corey: Well, the Reptilians handed over genetics to the Germans very early on. I think . . .

David: I’m not sure what you mean by that.

Corey: Well, when supposedly DNA was discovered like ’53 or ’56, something like that, well it, actually, was well-known in the programs, and scientists were using genetic engineering way before we supposedly discovered it. And they were testing it on soldiers a lot of the time.

David: Do you think that part of this biomedical packaging could have been in the development of cloning technology?

Corey: Absolutely, yes. We were giving cloning technology for creating – just like out of “Star Wars” – creating a force of soldiers that could be used as cannon fodder. That if you were to lose a few thousand of them, it wasn’t going to be that big of a deal.

David: Is this something that basically kind of allows you to print an organism, like you don’t have to wait for it to gestate and grow into adulthood over the course of 20 years?

Corey: Well, they’re growing these things also in these temporal fields.

David: Right.

Corey: And they can make it look like a little zygote grows up into a full grown human in a couple of hours.

David: Wow!

Corey: But the zygote in the field is experiencing 20 years.

David: Right. Time acceleration.

Corey: Right.

David: Another thing that I think some people, maybe like the nuts and bolts, meat and potatoes, UFO researchers like your Richard Dolan types, would maybe stammer on a little bit was when he said that the documents were not stamped “Classified”.

Corey: That’s common. That’s how you disavow information.

David: I don’t understand.

Corey: Well, let’s say he got in a car wreck on his way to deliver a package, and he was unconscious. And someone happened to go through his car, found this package.

It would just be some very interesting and strange information to him.

If it was stamped “Top Secret”, or any of the other indicators, then it’s going to legitimize what is in the package and legitimize it as being an intelligence briefing.

So many intelligence briefings are delivered without any type of classification at all.

David: Were a lot of the documents that you saw in the glass pads not stamped “Classified”?

Corey: I rarely saw any stamps like that.

David: Really!

Corey: There would be like date stamps with signatures and different things like that, but I didn’t see a whole lot of “Classified” or “Top Secret” stamped on them.

David: So then why would they stamp any documents “Classified”? Is that where more people are going to be handling them and they’re worried about leaks?

Corey: Yes. You stamp things for management purposes, for people managing the documentation.

“Oh, I need to handle this with care, because it says ‘Handle with care’.”

David: Right. All right. So now we’re going to have another segment for you. And in this case we’re going to get into the dissolving of the official Nazi government as it was at the end of World War II and the interesting historical question of what exactly happened to these people who had access to extraterrestrials, highly advanced technology, and all of this knowledge that could be applied to what later became the Secret Space Program.

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William Tompkins: By the end of the war, Germany had already removed massive, not underground, in mountain. This word ‘underground’ shouldn’t be used. All over Germany and the occupied countries, Germany was building mass production of a dozen different types of extraterrestrial vehicles that were given to them by the Dracos. Okay?

So these are in mass production, not just prototypes kind of things. They’ve gone into mass production using slave labor with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of in-mountain massive facilities.

80% of that had all been removed from Germany six months before the war ended. It had all been taken to Antarctica, and they were continuing the construction down there.

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They had access to these with their submarines.

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The built massive truck submarines, enormous submarines, to bring all this stuff down to Antarctica.

So the submarine, still submerged, goes through these tunnels. They go back through the tunnels, and they get to a lake where there’s all these facilities and the cities and naval bases and towns and thousands of people.

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And so Paperclip, we got the different people, and they certainly helped.

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They came in and sort of took over all of the aerospace companies and all of the biomedical research companies. Okay?

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And actually the Apollo vehicle was just one of the studies of the German ICBM bullets to have been used against New York and all the big cities in the United States.

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They just hadn’t gotten that far by the end of the war.

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The German biomedical research people came over with Paperclip, too. And they set up operations in, for instance, Scripps Research, medical research, and eastern research companies.

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They went and worked for them. They got jobs working for them, and then they started to come up in that organization. And then they took over the operation and were then very skillfully and diplomatically implementing many of these medical analysis, which are of extraterrestrial civilization people’s history, which they have been doing this out in the galaxy for thousands, hundreds of thousands of years.

They may have only recently come here, but they’ve been involved here for over 6,000 years. And we’re just now looking over this fence, holding on with our fingertips, and looking out there and figuring out what’s going on.

It’s really about where we are.

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David: He said that there were hundreds of production facilities. And he shied away from the use of the word ‘underground’. He said ‘in mountains’.

He said hundreds of facilities often involving slave labor in which these advanced Draco craft were being manufactured.

That’s a shocking statement. And I’m curious as to whether you can independently corroborate that from what you heard.

Corey: I don’t know about hundreds, but there were a large number of these types of cavern-type bases inside mountains in occupied Europe.

I had not been told that they were given to the Germans by the Draco. I was told that this was all a German operation, that they had dug out . . . I mean, these were dug out tunnels that they used slave labor to do. These caverns, . . . they were chiseled out.

David: One of the things that I really thought was interesting about this relates back to what war are the Nazis actually fighting? Because none of these ships actually appeared in World War II to any significant degree except for maybe the occasional sighting of Foo Fighters that American pilots were seeing in World War II.

So why do you think the Germans in the middle of World War II are so busily developing a technology that was not being implemented by them in World War II?

Corey: The Draco wanted them to build these vessels to fly alongside the Draco and do battle.

David: But where?

Corey: Out in space.

David: Okay.

Corey: They’re turning over this technology, to the Germans at the time, for a purpose. And they have to operate within those guidelines.

David: “They.” Who has to operate within the guidelines?

Corey: The Germans. When they receive this technology, they now have to operate within certain guidelines dictated by the Reptilians.

And the Reptilians, they manipulate a lot of the surface stuff going on, you know, wars, and that kind of a thing. It’s more of a management, planetary management, thing for them.

They’re more concerned about conquest outside of our planetary sphere. And they are known for having conquered races fight alongside them.

I’ve mentioned the tall Nordic looking group that has the large forehead, six fingers, that are often seen in our solar system working alongside the Draco.

And it’s been postulated that they are like what the Dark Fleet is to our planet – a group that either was conquered or made a deal with the Reptilians and then started fighting alongside them.

David: I can’t help but be intrigued by this quote based on a class that I had in college that had a deceptively simple name, Contemporary Social Issues, but it was a class in government conspiracy.

And it explained – my professors explained to me in that class – Hitler’s tanks were made by Ford Motor Company. Hitler’s jets were actually made by Boeing.

And when the plants were bombed in Germany, they were repaid by these allegedly American corporations, who were allegedly fighting the Nazis, to rebuild those plants.

So it almost sounds to me as if the American industrial side was covertly building the war material for both sides of World War II, but then the Germans are involved . . . What they’re really concentrating on is this other stuff that’s for a war that’s not even about World War II at all.

Corey: Correct. Right. It was a much more cosmic operation than the World War that was occurring on the planet.

David: So were the Draco concerned about whether the Nazis won or lost World War II?

Corey: These beings, they play the long game. The war may have served a purpose for them. Whether it was won or lost, you know, we’re thinking from a human perspective. They play the long game.

Each of these things they use to set up the next thing. So it sounds to me like they were trying to get the Germans, . . . the World War II situation, . . . put the Germans in a spot to where they needed the help from the Draco.

They were starting to lose. They knew from the beginning that once the Americans got in, that it wasn’t going to go well.

So the Germans, they had an agenda, but the Draco or the Reptilians had a much larger agenda that this was just one tiny little piece of.

David: So when he starts to describe the dissolution of Nazi Germany under Paperclip, which, of course, is Project Paperclip, the transfer of German scientists, what happens with this biomedical stuff he’s talking about?

He’s talking about them going out there, but then he clearly said what appears to be almost like the origin of the whole pharmaceutical corporate industry is being run, secretly, by these transferred Nazis.

And so I’m curious as to what might be the agenda for Germans from World War II building a pharmaceutical corporation, which, according to what Tompkins said, is now the origin of Big Pharma in general.

Why would the Fourth Reich by controlling Big Pharma? What’s the purpose?

Corey: When you have control of pharmacology, I guess, you can . . . I mean, people are so trusting of a pill.

Who knows what exactly that pill is actually doing to us? Is it helping suppress our consciousness?

I don’t understand why they are doing it. I don’t know the specifics. I think it’s a multiple agenda-type program.

David: So do you think that part of the suppressed science might be that there are natural remedies for certain things that the pharmaceutical industry poses as if they are the only answer for – such as depression, ADD, things like this?

Corey: Absolutely. The planet provides us everything we need for medical, psychological, trauma healing. It’s all in the jungles that we are burning down.

And that might be one of the main reasons we’re burning them down.

David: All right. Well, that’s all the time we have for in this fascinating episode. I sincerely hope that we get to the point in which this is a forensic document that is absolutely essential in the process of Full Disclosure.

And I thank you for being here on the vanguard of that social and cultural awakening with us here on Gaia.

I’m David Wilcock with Corey Goode and William Tompkins. This is “Cosmic Disclosure”, and we thank you for watching.


Cosmic Disclosure: Transformation Power of The Great Solar Flash

David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And we’re going into part two of our examination into the great solar flash with our special guest, Jay Weidner, who has been researching this exact subject and how it relates to alchemy and how it relates to Stanley Kubrick and the movies “2001”, etc., for many, many years now.

He’s one of the only people out there who’s been doing this longer than I have. So, Jay, welcome back to the show.

Jay Weidner: Hey, thanks.

David: Corey, welcome back to the show.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So we’re going to get right back to where we were with the Brown Notebook, which is amazing information given to someone who was actually contacted in person – just like what’s been happening to you, Corey – brought on board a ship by benevolent beings, brought up there, given a tour, and then they get telepathic information, which comes in the form of this channeling.

And what we’re seeing here is one of the earliest verified channelings from the 1950s. This guy W. B. Smith gave people a list of 200 questions, and everybody who answered in the same way, he was able to verify, because it was based on classified intel.

So people all over the country who have never spoken to each other, they all could answer these questions properly.

This is a verified channeling. It’s one of the only ones we have. And when you read what W. B. Smith said about those channelings, he said it contained religious-sounding information about the end of the age. But he never went into detail.

Now, look at this. This is mind-blowing.

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“I’m happy to be with you this morning. The things we will talk about this morning are very serious. Humans in their present state on your planet must change in order to survive. Many things will take place on this planet. Therefore, you will have to change with the planet.”

Now check this out.

“This solar system is moving into an area of space where the vibrations are much higher. This will cause changes in your planet’s features. It will also cause changes in your peoples. The vibrations on the planet will become higher. Therefore, you will have to raise your vibrations in order to exist on your planet. These vibrations can only be raised by the peoples’ thinking.”

Jay: Well, there you go.

David: I mean . . .

Jay: Wow!

David: That’s the money shot right there.

Jay: That really is.

David: Now, Corey, do you think, based on this, that if the Sphere Alliance is putting up an outer barrier around the Solar System, and these ETs, these Draco, Orion-types can’t get out, do you think that, based on this kind of information, that they’re just not even going to be able to exist if they stay in here once this happens?

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Corey: That’s exactly what the Sphere Being Alliance communicated to me.

David: Oh, they did?

Corey: Yeah. And not only the Draco, but other non-terrestrials that are here intervening. They will not be compatible with the new vibration, or energy.

David: Let me just play devil’s advocate for just a moment. Don’t you think it’s possible that, for people in the Cabal, that if they’re looking at these benevolent ETs, or allegedly benevolent ETs, as actually facilitating things like the fall of Atlantis, which we talked about last time, things like this, in which there actually is a mass death of negative beings, don’t you think that the negative beings could see these benevolent beings as terrorists?

Corey: Oh, yeah. Yeah. They’re going to see them as the enemy, of course.

David: Because they just want to be able to go on doing what they’re doing forever and not be interrupted.

Corey: And according to their theologies and philosophies, they’re doing what is ‘good’. So they see these, what we call benevolent beings, they see them as evil.

David: Now, Jay, why do you think it’s necessary for these negative entities to physically expire?

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Jay: Well, because they’re dictators of the whole Solar System, and this is a good thing.

Fulcanelli tells us in his chapter on the Cross of Hendaye that many beings will die when this event comes, all right, but not all. And I think he was really talking about this cleansing, a cleansing of the whole area and getting rid of a lot of negative entities.

So I think that they are going to die, and I think that they’re really worried – very worried. And I’ve heard this from other sources, not just Corey.

David: I mean, how bizarre is it that we got this guy – I think it’s Nebraska or something like that, in the middle of Nebraska – [who] doesn’t know anything about ancient prophecy? He’s just an ordinary dude, gets brought up there, and they start giving this information through him.

Jay: Definitely my sources have told me that in the 1950s aliens began telepathically talking to very good humans, giving them information in order to facilitate the evolutionary shift of the human race to bring us into a larger manifold. That’s what I’ve been told.

And the Sun is a central part of this thing. And the change that the Sun is going through is a central part of this thing.

David: Now, Corey, in The Law of One – we discussed this already – there was a statement about the idea that the illusion of space-time is granted for us to have the experiencer of seeing the results of our actions.

Do these . . . Is death part of the illusion of space-time?

Corey: Well, I guess it would be, since we’re having our experience within that medium. But death is a part of also the learning experience.

David: So these beings aren’t really dying per se. They’re just being removed from one level of the planetary or interplanetary game.

Corey: They’re being, I guess, recycled.

David: Right. And because space-time is ultimately an illusion, it does appear that these potential . . . that these periodic mass catastrophes, although there is the appearance of physical death within the illusion, that it’s more like gardening, right?

Jay: Hm mm.

David: It’s like plowing the field to harvest.

Jay: Yes.

David: What is the harvest? What happens, Jay?

Jay: Yeah.

David: It’s the tilling of the soil, right?

Jay: That’s right, yeah.

David: So what do the alchemists think about this idea of the metaphor of rebirth? They’ve used the ‘new dawn’ language in this.

Jay: Yep. They are not . . . They don’t believe that death is the end. They believe that you want to extend human life to give each human enough time to figure things out. And they think we’ve been somehow messed with, so we have a short lifespan. And so we can never figure things out.

We die at like 70, 80, and that’s it, right? And it’s really not enough time to actually figure things out.

So alchemists try to do things to extend their life so they have more time here to figure it out. And the alchemists lore is that the average human can live to be 300 to 800 years old.

And just imagine if we lived to be 800 years old, how the world would be changed. There would be no wars, because nobody’s going to fight war if you’ve got 780 years left to live, right?

David: Sure.

Jay: You’re not going to have children until you’re 200 years old. You’re going to be very wise when you have children. Your children are going to be very wise.

You go to college until you’re 150. You know what I mean? I mean, it’s just a completely different world, and they’ve denied this to us.

The patriarchs in the Bible lived to be 900 years old, so . . .

David: Right.

Corey: Well, even the oldest and wisest among us right now are still spiritual children.

Jay: They are. And it’s a very important part of our future to have us live longer lives. I think that’s part of the vibratory change that’s going to happen. And we’re going to start living longer.

We already are actually living longer lives. When my grandparents were in their 60s, they looked like they were in their 90s, right? Nowadays, people in their 90s looked like people who used to be in their 60s.

Corey: And it’s not because of all the pharmaceuticals we’re pumping through them?

Jay: Ha, ha.

Corey: Ha, ha.

Jay: I hope not. Again, the pharmaceuticals could be a way to mitigate the shift that they don’t want, right?

Corey: Yes.

Jay: Right? The fluoride in the water – when did it happen? The 1950s, right? And what does fluoride do? It calcifies your pineal gland.

Corey: Well, on that point, they do put things in the food and water that have metals and things that bring down our density, that keep our density lower.

Jay: That’s right. We know that.

David: Well, the first Project Camelot whistleblower, alias, Mr. X, said that he was going through documents at a military defense contractor, and documents from the 1950s described that meeting with what you were calling the Blues and Eisenhower, in which the government denied them their request to bring us into a peaceful age as long as we had nuclear disarmament.

But then they said, “If you cover this up, you can get away with it up until 2012, and at that point we’re coming back whether you like it or not. There’s nothing you can do about it.”

So, Corey, since so many of these prophecies have revolved around the year 2012, the Mayan Calendar end date – there were crop circles that said it – does it appear, since you’re got this date range of 2018 to 2023, that maybe we got an extension to have a little more time from what the original intention of the end date was?

Corey: You know, I don’t know, but it’s become very obvious from the panic and how quickly things are changing in the programs that the 2018 beginning date has obviously moved up.

Things are happening very quickly. So I think things are happening before these different Cabal groups had planned out. They were using these different techniques to view the probable future, getting information from non-terrestrials, and they were basing their plans on that – on that date.

David: Well, we’re actually not done with The Brown Notebook. And if this hasn’t already blown you away, there’s more to come. So let’s check that out.

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“Thinking better thoughts of everything in the creation, more spiritual thoughts, thoughts that will lift the people of Earth out of the darkness and mud they have lived in for so long. The principal of free will still exists. You may change and live on this planet in a true divine kingdom, or you may choose not to and destroy yourself and then be reincarnated back in another third-density, materialistic world, where you continue to try to learn your lessons. You should change so you can see the revealing of this divine kingdom. This has been a rather long message, so I will leave you now.”

David: So what they’re saying there is the idea of planetary recycling, people being transported.

So, Corey, when we have these giant Spheres coming into the Solar System and then The Law of One source says that their job is the management and transfer of planetary populations, how do the Spheres . . . do you think . . . is it possible that those Spheres will be transporting people to other worlds once this transition is complete based on what we’re seeing here?

Corey: It’s absolutely possible because that’s how they’ve transported me.

David: Ah, right. So why wouldn’t they have the technology to portal out people by the hundreds of millions or billions?

Corey: Oh, yeah, easily.

David: The same way that they just did with you.

Corey: Yeah. And if they can use these Spheres to contain the entire Solar System, that’s child’s play to them.

Jay: And I’ve heard from high sources that they can just – “pfshht” – pick you right up and take you away. It just happens in a flash. And a lot of these missing people disappear this way, I think.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Now, this is another quote from a later session. It’s the same kind of thing – totally amazing.

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“This planet and solar system are moving into a new area of vibrations in which the conditions as they are now on this planet will not survive. That is why the people of this planet must learn the truth concerning the divine creation. Love, peace and harmony is all that will exist in the true creation. Many will not believe our story, but if they do not they are not punished . . . They are simply [David clears his throat] removed to another planet, in a just manner . . . where they will try to learn their lessons of love, peace and harmony all over again. . . .”

Jay: Interesting.

“People of all planets must live in love, peace and harmony if they are to receive the full blessings of the divine kingdom.”

Jay: Nice.

David: So once again, they’re reiterating that everybody has to learn this, and if you don’t get it, you continue your education on another planet somewhere else. And again, this seems totally to be what’s happening with these Spheres.

We’re actually seeing the technological or more measurable physical aspect of how they all kind of come in at the last minute right before this thing’s going to happen.

Corey: Right.

David: Do you think . . . I mean, the Spheres have to be here to do something, don’t you think, Jay?

Jay: I do.

David: They’re not just there for show.

Jay: I do. This is very interesting, because, I mean, you know, that’s . . . it’s almost like the New Age Rapture. It makes you wonder if this is where the Rapture and all of that came from.

David: Absolutely. Let’s go on [and] have another one, because this is actually talking about the Cabal now and then why that change is necessary.

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“Others try to rule by force. This should not be. Free will was created, but why should the wrong thinking of a few be forced upon many? All of these things are making an unbalanced condition on and around your planet. At times, the [father-mother-god] has to rebalance some of the planets and solar systems. That is what is about to take place on your planet. Conditions on your planet can cause unbalance in the whole Solar System, so it must be balanced back into the harmony of the creation.”

Jay: There you go.

David: So doesn’t it sound like here, if they’re saying . . . and they’re using a patriarchal term, but as people are reading, “the Father has to rebalance the planets and solar systems.”

Doesn’t that sound like the idea of these Spheres, like the Outer Barrier and all this kind of stuff?

Corey: Well, yes, because one of the things that was explained and shown to me was that these Spheres were spaced out throughout our Solar System and acting as a buffer, like a harmonic buffer, for these energies that were coming into our Solar System to give us more time to acclimate and adjust.

David: And it says here that the “rule by force” is creating an “unbalanced condition” and that they will, or whoever this Father is that they’re talking about, has to rebalance what the Cabal has done.

So the defeat of the Cabal is obviously of key importance in this solar-system-wide rebalancing, which they’re saying is some kind of flash of energy from the Sun.

I mean, to me this stuff pays off everything we’ve been talking about. It’s just amazing.

Jay: It certainly is. Now it goes back to what I’ve heard was happening in the ’50s. And again, everything happened in the ’50s. Everything started there.

Corey: Oh, yeah.

David: Tompkins’ data was that 1,500 different people were getting . . .

Jay: 1,442 people. The intelligence agencies had discovered 1,400 people who were in telepathic communication, just normal people, not physicists or anything. There were physicists, but others were guys like this guy from Nebraska and uncovering amazing amounts of knowledge, including Tompkins himself, who was receiving one of the 1,400, and he was receiving information about how to build space vehicles and things like that.

Corey: Now, is this “the 1,442 contactees”?

Jay: Yeah.

Corey: They call them “the 1,442”?

Jay: Yeah, “the 1,442”.

Corey: Huh.

David: Tompkins, in his book, describes that the people he’s working with are throwing him these impossible questions and saying, design us a transport vehicle to get from cavern A to cavern B, and we need it by Saturday.

And he has no idea what he’s going to do, and then he just channels it. And then they don’t tell him what they’re doing with it.

Jay: No. And he’s unsure of where he’s getting the information from. At the same time, he doesn’t know how he could possibly build a ship that can house 300 people in a weekend. Ha, ha.

David: And then he concludes that they must be getting it telepathically from extraterrestrials.

Jay: Yes. Right – good extraterrestrials. And you think about if what Corey is saying is true, there’s bad ETs here. You don’t want to really face them. So how would you defeat them? You would do it this way. This is the most intelligent way to do it.

David: Balance the Solar System.

Jay: Yeah, balance the Solar System by taking good people, like this guy is, and feeding them information and getting him to release it. This stuff should have probably been released in the ’50s.

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David: Yeah. So now this little quote, I’m not going to go into too much detail except just to say that it says, “I am your teacher and friend Hatton” at the end of the top one, and then “I am Latue” at the bottom one.

Hatonn and Latue are the two beings that were talking to Carla that she was channeling before she starts to channel The Law of One.

So these same beings found their way to Carla. Here’s the beings – they’re naming themselves – that are giving us these prophecies.

So they’re still out there. Nebraska guy is not online anymore, but they jump over to Carla, and they start giving her the information. And that’s what tuned her up to be able to receive The Law of One.

Jay: Right.


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David: So now what we have here is this book by Baird Wallace that summarizes all of what these different contactees were saying in the 1950s and ’60s. He puts it all together in one unified message.

9 The Space Story And The Inner Light

And I’m going to show you the publication date, June 1972. [i] scanned it right out of the book. You could probably still find this if you really look for it. It’s called “The Space Story and The Inner Light”, and I’m going to read you some quotes from this. We’re not going to read it from the typewritten form here. You can pause it on your TV if you want to see that.

I’m just going to read it in a nice, favorable way like this.

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“The contact information states that our Solar System is at this time in transit. . .” – remember this is 1972 – “. . . from the Third to the Fourth Density . . . ” [David: There it is. That’s all the way back before The Law of One. They’re already using the word ‘density’.] “. . . of the System of Vela . . . “ [David: That comes from George Van Tassel’s information.] “. . . and that this change which literally is a transition into a new area of space is happening now. This movement changes the vibratory rate of the magnetic energies in the nucleus of the atoms of our world now.”

David: So, Jay, this sounds a lot like alchemical.

Jay: It is. It is. Fulcanelli intimates several times in his book, “Mysteries of the Cathedrals”, that the entire human race is an alchemical experiment.

Corey says that 22 different races have come here to experiment on us. Other people have told me the same thing. And I think that, if I may, the experiment, I think, is, can we take a guttural creature, like in “2001”, and transform them into a very advanced spiritual being?

That, I think, is the main experiment. There’s other experiments, like Corey says.

Corey: But you’re right. It’s genetic and spiritual. They say it’s genetic and spiritual in context.

Jay: Genetic and spiritual. And as things like Gaia come out into the world, we’re raising the vibe of everything and changing the game. And I think that Gaia is a big part of this whole change in consciousness.

David: Let’s hear more of what he had to say about this meta analysis of all the different contact information.

“[This event] will have great impacts on the form and expression of plant and animal life on our planet and it will have great impact on the consciousness of [humanity]. This has already started and is being amplified because [Earth humans have] fallen behind the evolution of [their] planet in [their] spiritual evolution and [are] not prepared for this change.”

David: Now, Corey, this is from 1972. Did you hear anything that sounded like that?

Corey: Well, what I said earlier, the Spheres are here to buffer the energy so we can acclimate at a slower rate because the Earth is changing faster than we are. And that’s why . . . If they didn’t do that, there were going to be more catastrophe . . . Earth changes happening and catastrophes because of it, and there would be fear and all that kind of stuff that would make it harder for us to raise our vibration.

David: So they really have needed this sort of intercession of the Sphere technology because we’re not ready, just like it said here in ’72.

Corey: Right.

David: Pretty amazing, huh?

Jay: Pretty amazing.

David: 40 years before 2012.

Corey: And them talking about the Solar System moving . . . because I hear people talking about the Solar System as being hit by all these energies . . .

David: Or the photon belt.

Corey: Right. It’s shocking to hear that they’re saying the same thing the Secret Space Program was saying, is that our Solar System is moving into a part of the galaxy that has like a nebula of clouds, high-energy particle clouds, that are causing changes to our Sun and our Solar System.

David: And you said they were sending guys into those clouds in spaceships to see what happened to them, right?

Corey: Right. Well, they were sending them out there to investigate. And people . . . weird things were happening to them. They were having breakdowns, psychological breakdowns.

David: Well, could you go through that? Like, different . . . Not everybody responds to the cloud the same way, right?

Corey: Exactly. And they were artificially recreating this energy in closed environments and having unsuspecting people go in thinking that they’re doing unrelated work and seeing what it did to them. And they were doing it to our own people.

David: What are some of the things that happened?

Corey: Well, people that went in that were like sociopaths, they went nuts. They lost it.

Jay: That’s actually what I’ve heard is about to happen.

Corey: Yeah. And the people that were positively oriented started getting all blissful and just happy and whistling, that kind of thing. And people that had, you know, people that had psychological issues, those became enhanced.

David: Wow! So this is really lining up very beautifully with what he’s saying.

Jay: So the good get better and the bad get worse.

David: Ha, ha.

Corey: And the crazy get crazier.

David: All right, so now we’re going to go on with this quote from this amazingly vetted-out material and just see how much more it lines up with everything we’ve been discussing.

“The quality of life in the Fourth Vela Density, which we are now moving into, is the quality of emergence, the recognition from childhood of the Inner Presence of our Creator. [Earth humans] in this cycle, will undergo many changes and refinements in the sensitivity of [their] own [bodies].”

Now, Jay, you said before that there was a really interesting Masonic ritual where they keep you in the dark for a long time . . .

Jay: Right.

David: . . . and then bring you out. Could you just kind of go over that again here?

Jay: Well, again, this goes back to the pineal gland. It’s kind of like tricking the pineal gland, you might say. This is a poor man’s way of getting the Elixir of Life.

So we know that serotonin is emitted from the pineal gland when light strikes it in the morning. And we know that melatonin comes out of the pineal gland when you’re in the dark.

We know that melatonin reverses the aging process, okay? And so what they would do, in my opinion, was they would put you in a dark room for three days, complete darkness, and then your brothers, the Freemasonic brothers, would come, and they would put you into a dark coffin, light-free coffin, and then they would take you to either the top of a mountain or the top of a building, somewhere where you could see the rising Sun. And you’re blindfolded.

And if anybody knows the Masonic rituals, this is starting to make a lot of sense.

David: Oh, yeah.

Jay: And so then you’re taken out of the coffin, and your brothers face you towards the Sun. They take off your blindfold, and the Sun hits your eyes. And for three minutes, you have to stare into the Sun.

Then you put your blind . . . By the way, it’s like a psychedelic experience when this happens.

David: Well, your brain has generated tons of melatonin.

Jay: Absolutely. We know that DMT is very close anatomically to serotonin, okay? And so what you’re doing is you’re getting almost like an endogenous DMT rush. It’s your own DMT, though. It’s homeopathic.

David: So it’s like the melatonin is methylated. It gets suddenly transformed.

Jay: Into a super-serotonin.

David: Right.

Jay: And then they put you back in the casket, and they take you back into the dark room. You have to stay for 40 days.

David: Total darkness.

Jay: Total darkness. No light. And then what happens is that the super-serotonin turns into super-melatonin, all right?

So first it was melatonin. Then the light activates. It turns into a higher vibratory super-serotonin. And then once you get in the dark, that’s transferred to super high vibratory super-melatonin, which begins to almost immediately reverse the aging process.

And supposedly you will lose 15, 20 years in this 40 days that you’re in there.

And it’s not a pleasant experience, from what I’ve heard.

David: Do they hit you with light again at the end of the 40 days?

Jay: No, they let you out.

David: Oh.

Jay: That’s supposed to be . . . They let you out at night because it’s very, very difficult to get back into the light after you’ve been in this experience. Your eyes are very sensitive. So usually, they let you out at night, and you usually become a night person for a little while.

David: Corey, have you heard of maybe some more advanced, perhaps chemical or energetic, means where some process, like what he’s describing, might be able to advance people’s psychic ability?

Corey: Well, yes. They chemically enhanced intuitive empaths with shots. Intuitive empaths that I run into are extremely advanced, but if they were to go for like six weeks or eight weeks without these shots, their abilities begin to diminish.

Jay: Right.

David: All right, well let’s go on with this because we got a little more of this to get through.

“The whole new vista and scope of the nature of life will open up before them, and they will live with the knowledge of their purpose and a deep, in-dwelling allegiance to the Spirit of the Creator.”

David: That sounds great. Now, we’re going to talk about this quote here, about what happens. And, again, we’re not going to read it off the paper. We’re going to do these nice slides.

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“Summarizing various sources dealing with these events . . . “ [the solar flash] “. . . major rearrangements in the orientation of the planets and the satellites within the Solar System will occur.”

David: Now, before we go on any further here, Corey, have you heard about planetary orbits changing, like maybe the Earth’s orbit extending in the number of days it takes, things like that, once this happens?

Corey: Yeah. And also about the orbits of the planets, that unlike some other solar systems, the planets are all askew. They’re not in harmony at all. That’s . . . Yeah, that’s very interesting.

David: Isn’t this crazy? 1972.

Corey: Yeah.

“Vulcan, the closest planet to the Sun, will be absorbed into the Sun; . . . “

David: And in The Law of One, they say it’s a first-density planet, so it’s not visible to us. It’s like an energy ball.

Jay: Right.

David: It’s not actually visible, but it gets reabsorbed.

“. . . Pluto will be [kicked out of our Solar System]; . . .”

David: It kind of already has been by NASA. Ha, ha.

Jay: It already has. Ha, ha.

“. . . our Moon is expected to leave [the] orbit of [the] Earth and become [its own] planet; . . .”

David: That’s interesting. I don’t know if I’d agree with that, but it probably will get kicked out, at least jettisoned from the Earth’s orbit.

Jay: It is slowly moving away from the Earth.

“. . . and there will be major changes in the orbital paths of the remaining planets.”

David: So I mean, there again is exactly what we’re anticipating based on insider data. Now, let’s go on and read the rest of this.

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“A new balance will come about, which will result in many advantages to the expression of a more spiritualized life within the Solar System.”

David: That is Ascension, obviously.

“I believe . . . “ [This is the author speaking.] “. . . that this event is literally the cosmic manifestation of the fulfillment of the words which Jesus the Christ spoke in describing these times, the event of the coming of the bridegroom.”

David: And that is in the same book of Matthew right after they talk about the harvest metaphor. The bridegroom is just another symbol – the wedding, the alchemical wedding – . . .

Jay: It’s the alchemical wedding.

David: . . . the wedding of flesh to spirit.

Jay: That’s right.

David: Like the eclipse.

Jay: That’s exactly right. That’s what they’re saying there. They’re talking alchemy there.

David: And Jay, Kubrick is using eclipses and stuff all the time in “2001”, isn’t he?

Jay: All through “2001” there’s at least five eclipses in the movie.

David: So do you think Kubrick was aware of this biblical analogy to the wedding of flesh and spirit?

Jay: Oh, I do. Absolutely, I do. I believe that he was . . . I don’t know if he was a practicing alchemist, but he definitely understood alchemy . . . and the Cabal.

David: Now, why do you think Kubrick at the last minute dissed the guy that wrote the score and then picks “Thus Spake Zarathustra”?

Jay: What do you think? Ha, ha, ha.

David: Well, I already know the answer. I’m just kind of throwing him a bone here.

Jay: I know the answer, too, because Zarathustra was the Persian alchemist. And from the very beginning, he’s saying, “This is alchemy. Thus spoke the alchemist.”

And the opening trumpet from “Thus Spake Zarathustra” is over the eclipse at the beginning of “2001”. So there you go.

David: Zarathurstra is Zoroaster, . . .

Jay: That’s right.

David: . . . who is the author of the prophecy of Frashokereti, . . .

Jay: That’s right.

David: . . . where the Sun gives off this flash and transforms humanity.

Jay: Yep.

David: All right. So we’re just going to finish this out really quickly, because we’re almost done there. I just want you guys to hear this last little bit.

“The contact sources tell us that the solar emanations from the new Sun will have a direct impact in the refining and spiritualizing of [our] nervous systems as we pass into the new condition of life which celestial events are bringing to this world.”

Jay: Okay. So the “refining and spiritualizing of the nervous system” . . . The nervous system carries electrical currents through your body.

David: Yeah.

Jay: The Sun is essentially an electric Sun, as Corey has pointed out.

Corey: It is.

Jay: And so when the new Sun comes, it again goes through your eyes, hits your endocrine system, changes the nervous system, makes us more electric, advanced. So we can live longer.

David: Right.

Jay: We’re light bodies.

David: And the eclipse is like a metaphorical example of a conjunction that’s much greater, an alignment that leads to this solar emanation.

Jay: That’s right. That is exactly right.

David: All right. Well, Corey, I mean, what do you think about all this from 1972?

Corey: It’s unbelievable. I mean, I was two years old. Ha, ha. And this information, I didn’t hear until fairly recently from, of course, a much different nonterrestrial source.

David: Do you think there’s any possibility that somebody could have faked all this – the guy in Nebraska in 1958 – Baird Spalding [David means Baird Wallace.], 1972, reading all these different vetted-out channelers and how well it lines up with what you know?

Is there any way this could have been faked or somebody could have made this as a big hoax?

Corey: This is way before the time of the Internet, and your average library, I don’t know if they would have all this information. And if it did, you would have to hunt and peck for years. That just doesn’t seem practical.

David: Well, knowledge was kept secret, too, right, Jay?

Jay: Yeah, of course it was kept secret. This is clearly absolute proof, as proof as you can get, that what they’re saying about this extraterrestrial telepathic contact was really truly going on.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: Yeah. I mean, I was around back then. I wasn’t very old, but we were not very sophisticated in 1972. This is pretty sophisticated stuff.

David: Yeah, it’s stunning. And this is stuff that was classified in secret societies, and yet, these guys in Nebraska are pulling it in.

Jay: And probably driving the Cabal crazy.

David: Oh, yeah.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Oh, yeah. They’re trying to stop this.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Well, that’s all the time we have for this episode. I hope you’re as amazed as I am.

I wanted to present this information to you properly. I’ve been holding onto this stuff for a long time. I used to always close my conferences with this.

This to me is some of the crown jewels of my whole collection. And now with the three of us together, it’s really the right way to present it to you. I hope you’ve enjoyed it.

This is “Cosmic Disclosure:”. I’m your host, David Wilcock, with our special guest, Jay Weidner, and I thank you for watching.


Cosmic Disclosure: The Great Solar Flash

David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. We’re here with Corey Goode, and we’re also here with one of the only guys who’s been in the scene longer than I have, Jay Weidner.

I got into what you were doing a long time ago, and I think one of the first things . . . The way I first encountered you was through Richard C. Hoagland.

Jay Weidner: Yeah, right.

David: So you worked with him for a long time.

Jay: Yeah, about 10 years I spent with him.

David: And you did some pretty phenomenal analysis of “2001”, . . .

Jay: Right.

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David: . . . which I’d never really seen the full extent of that. So since this episode’s on the solar flash, and, of course, “2010” has a flash of Jupiter . . .

Jay: Which was based on Hoagland’s theory, too, by the way.

David: Oh, really?

Jay: Yeah. The “2010”, the followup novel by Arthur C. Clarke, it says at the end, “based on a theory by Richard Hoagland.”

David: No kidding?

Jay: Yep.

David: What do you think the message of “2001” was? What were they trying to tell us in that movie?

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Jay: That we are on the edge of a great transformation – the human race is. And that we are faced with kind of a Hobson’s choice, where we can go down the AI thing with Hal and have AI run our lives, or we can rebel against the AI, cut it short like the astronaut Bowman does in the movie, and then physically, organically ascend – ascend like he does, by going through the stargate.

So the aliens, whoever the high intelligence is, are trying to initiate humanity, and he’s the first one through the gate.

David: Corey, do you think that “2001” might have been an effort to disclose the reality of Ancient Builder Race ruins, considering there’s this black, obelisk-type slab on the Moon?

Corey Goode: Oh, yeah. That’s obvious. Yeah.

Jay: Yeah.

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David: So, Jay, when the original obelisk shows up, a lot of people are confused by “2001” at the beginning. They say, “What the hell? There’s 15 minutes of monkeys running around, screaming.”

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Jay: Right. Yes.

David: And then this obelisk shows up, and the first thing that happens when one of the monkeys touches it is he becomes aggressive.

Jay: Yes. He learns how to kill and eat meat. They’re eating veggies before, plants, but after the encounter with the monolith, they turn into meat eaters.

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And clearly, the next shot is a guy eating raw meat.

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And then the first killing, the first murder, happens over the waterhole.

And, again, Kubrick is telling us that transformations are messy. They can be very messy, and that violence can come from transformation, especially if they’re not ready, and the first murder happened.

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And then, of course, Bowman kills Hal at the end, near the end of the movie, before his transformation.

And then Hal, the AI computer, murders all the astronauts. So the whole thing is about Hal is trying to stop them from becoming enlightened, because he’s reaching his own form of sentience.

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And in the beginning, the monkeys were headed for extinction, for sure . . .

David: Okay.

Jay: . . . because they’re hiding at night from the wild animals, and the monolith intervenes to bring about the first wave of enlightenment.

David: Why do you think that the bone that the monkey uses as the weapon to kill gets thrown up in the air, and then it turns into the Odyssey.

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10 2001 Odyssey

Jay: Yeah, because he was trying to . . . He was saying that all of human history that happened between the time of that first transformation and the time of the next transformation, which is the next part of the film, all of that is useless and pointless. All of that history, all of that is pointless.

The only thing that matters is this transformation of the human race. That’s all he cares about. He doesn’t care about anything that happened in between, because none of it’s important.

The only thing that’s important is this transformation by the monolith to create a new human.

David: Why do you think he chose the year 2010 for the next movie?

Jay: I don’t know why he chose 2010, but I think I know why he chose 2001.

David: Okay.

Jay: Okay. So what happened was the original title was “Journey Beyond the Stars”. And then, mysteriously, in late 1967, Stanley decided to change the name to “2001: A Space Odyssey”.

Well, what’s very interesting about this is that one of Stanley Kubrick’s best friends was Mel Brooks. They grew up in the Village together, and at late 1967, an episode of “Get Smart” appeared called “The Walls of Jericho”.

Now, this was very interesting, so stick with me on this.

David: Okay.

Jay: So in this plot, Maxwell Smart is assigned to find out why these buildings that this company is building keep falling down. And he’s assigned to be on the construction crew and find out what’s going on.

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It’s so important because the building that they’re building is called the Odyssey, and it’s going to house the Moon program, and so they don’t want it to fall down.

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13 Maxwell Smart On The Phone

So Maxwell Smart goes to the building site, and he finally figures out, and he calls the chief on his phone and he says, “Chief, I’ve figured it out”.

And he says, “They’re putting the explosives in the building as they’re building it”. All right?

David: And what year is this?

Jay: This was 1967, the year they decided to build the World Trade Center.

David: Oh, my goodness.

Jay: All right? Freeman, the researcher, he was a pretty good researcher – his name was Freeman Fry – he interviewed the architect of the World Trade Center’s Chief Assistant. The architect’s now dead.

And on video, he said, “Yes, we put explosions in the building as we built it.

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Video interview:

Guest: We noticed in Las Vegas that people have that stuff, and it’s starting to spread through New York. And I said, “What’s starting to spread?”

Host Freeman Fry: Yeah.

Guest: “Well, to put in demolition devices before you take occupancy.”

Fry: No way.

Guest: “And that means they’d come down like a set of pancakes.”

Jay: I think both Stanley Kubrick and Mel Brooks had dealings with the New York mob. They’re very famous. People know the mob funds movies. And they got word that something was going to happen.

He made the Maxwell Smart, and Stanley Kubrick changed the title of his film to “2001: A Space Odyssey”, because he knew it was going to happen in 2001.

I know that sounds far fetched, but you should watch this Maxwell Smart.

David: And this building is related to the Moon?

Jay: Yeah. It’s called the Odyssey.

David: But it’s . . . The building had something to do with colonizing the Moon?

Jay: The building had to . . . It was housing the Apollo program.

David: Well, Corey, how close is 2010 to the date that you were given for some sort of solar flash like the flash in the solar system that happens in the movie?

Corey: Well, in the programs, on the smart glass pads, and the scuttlebutt, [it] was occurring between the years 2018 and 2023.

David: So we’re getting really close to the end of the Mayan calendar here, too.

Jay: Right.

David: Right?

Jay: Yes.

David: Do you think Arthur C. Clarke was aware of that when he made the date 2010?

Jay: I do. I think Arthur C. Clarke is . . . You say Corey’s the insider’s insider, then Arthur C. Clarke’s the insider’s insider insider. He’s hanging with everybody, right? Wernher Von Braun. And he’s got young Stanley trailing behind him as he’s meeting everybody in the space program – Hermann Oberth, everybody, right?

And I think Stanley learned an awful lot. I think if you look, and if you watch underneath the story of “2001”, there’s a secret space program. He says, “We’re not going to tell them. We’re going to make up a story that there’s a virus unleashed on the Moon, and we’re not going to tell anybody what we found.”

And it’s clearly there’s a secret space program going. And even the mission to Jupiter, in the movie, the reason is secret – the whole reason for why they’re going.

David: In your work, Corey, with the Secret Space Program, have you heard if there is a practical technology that allows alchemy to occur – the idea of transmuting some sort of base metal into gold? Is that something that’s actually real?

Corey: Well, yes. When they were building the ARVs, what they were calling Alien Reproduction Vehicles, they had what were glass vortexes, or glass cylinders with creating vortexes of mercury. And they would put high currents of electricity into this spinning vortex of mercury, which would create a spinning electrical field.

And the problem they had was that the mercury kept turning into gold. And this has actually been reproduced in laboratories at universities.

Jay: Really?

Corey: Yeah.

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Jay: That’s really important, because that’s the Bell technology.

Corey: Right.

Jay: That’s very important. Interesting.

David: Well, Jay, do you think that it’s possible that if this technology did exist in some sort of archaic sense, that it was also a metaphor for some sort of spiritual process?

Jay: I do. I think it’s both physical and spiritual. I think that they put the turning lead into gold, or mercury into gold, actually, is a big part of alchemy. We talked about that a lot, turning mercury into gold.

I think that it’s . . . You’re not really supposed to transmute something into gold until you’ve transmuted your own soul into gold. So gold is God with the L taken out.

David: Mm.

Jay: Right? And the L is lead, right?

David: Mm.

Jay: And so when you take the L out of gold, you achieve godlike status. And I think that that’s really the goal.

And turning lead into gold, or mercury into gold, is a sign that you’ve achieved this. You’ve achieved a high level of ascension, and that you now have the ability to transmute physical objects.

David: Do you think that some of these Cabal secret societies are alchemists?

Jay: No, what I think, I’m pretty sure . . . I once had access to a Freemasonic library, which I was allowed to read all the books. I couldn’t take them out of the library, but I could read them. I couldn’t take any notes, either.

David: Mm.

Jay: But I read in there that there was a rift around the late 1700s, when Amschel Rothschild decided to get the elixir of life. And there was a rift inside the Freemasonic society at that point.

And the good guys, the white hats, they left, and they split. And they’ve never been seen since.

The black hats, they want to find the white hats, because they’ve [the white hats] got the secret of life, the secret elixir. And they don’t want to give it to them [the black hats], because the last thing they want is for the black hats to live for a long time. They want them to die. Right?

And these guys, the black hats, are doing everything they can to find these guys; the CIA, or the OSS at the time, at the end of World War II, covered all over Europe looking for Fulcanelli, the great alchemist.

And they were going to torture him and find out everything he knew. I guarantee it.

Frequently, in Europe, an alchemist would invent the elixir of life, and he would tell a friend that he had it, and, of course, then the word would spread. And then the king would find out, then the king would arrest him and then try to get the secret out of him.

And he couldn’t give the secret to a bad person, so he had to die. And this happened over and over. That’s why alchemists keep very, very quiet.

David: Corey, are you familiar with any actual lineage of history here on Earth of people being able to find life extension technology, maybe through some of these occult practices or secret sciences?

Corey: There is life extension technology and age regression technology, and I don’t know its source. I don’t know if it’s non-terrestrial, or if it comes from some of this alchemy lineage.

Jay: Well, we don’t even know if alchemy is terrestrial. Not really.

Corey: I guess that’s true. Yeah.

Jay: They claim that . . . In the origins of alchemy, they claim that etheric beings gave them the knowledge. Isis, the prophetess, a being came to . . . She wasn’t the Isis of Egypt, but she was a practicing alchemist in Egypt, Isis, the prophetess.

And an “angel”, quote unquote, came to her one day and said, “I want to have sex with you”. And she said, “No way”.

And he said, “No, I really do”.

And she said, “Only if you give me your secrets”. And that’s how the secrets of alchemy came to humans. The real secrets of alchemy.

David: That’s pretty intense.

Jay: Yeah.

David: So, Jay, this alchemical tradition, would you say that it’s connected to Mithraism?

Jay: A part of it is. It’s based . . . Alchemy can be found in ancient India, ancient China, ancient Egypt and ancient Europe. And it appears that it all comes from the same source.

And the reason that Taoist alchemy . . . Taoist alchemy used to have an elixir of life, but they realized it was so dangerous, because the Chinese emperors kept killing them for it.

So they said, “We’re not going to . . . We’re never going to release the secret any more, ever. It’s buried forever because we can’t have any more people dying.”

And so they resorted to practices that give you long life – Taoist practices.

And so alchemy seems to be the basic science of what I believe was a pre-existing civilization that was destroyed by something 13,000 years ago.

David: Now, in the Methraic tradition, you have the Leontocephalus, the lion-headed god.

Jay: Yes.

David: And in those initiation rites, they blow fire out of the lion’s mouth.

Jay: And they also chop the head off the bull.

David: Right, the Tauroctony.

Jay: The Tauroctony, yes.

David: So what do you think that blowing fire out of the lion’s mouth represents?

Jay: That’s alchemy. The lion is gold. He represents gold or god. And it’s very representational of the alchemical experiment and how it works.

So every time you see a lion, you’re talking about god or gold, the king, the royal, the top. Right?

David: Do you think that it could also be a solar flash, like some sort of solar event they’re representing?

Jay: I do. Absolutely. One of the things I discovered when I was in this Freemasonic library was that the very, very basis of Freemasonry, when it started, whenever it started – and they’re obtuse about when it started – but was for a father to son hand-me-down of knowledge about a great solar flare that actually ended the Younger Dryas in about 11,000 BC.

So there were two disasters. There was a disaster that happened 13,000 years ago that brought on the Super Ice Age. And then 2,000 years later, something happened that ended the ice age immediately and caused amazing amounts of flooding. All right?

And Robert Schoch, Boston University geologist, his last book that he put out, he says that it was a gigantic solar flash, that there’s evidence all over the planet for this.

David: Corey, does this solar flash appear to be a basic part of celestial mechanics, regardless of what solar system you’re in?

Corey: Yes. And it has to do with not only where our star is traveling through the galaxy, but our star’s connection through the cosmic web to other stars.

There could be feedback of energy through this cosmic web, through our star, which emanates.

David: So, Jay, what he was just saying about this interconnectedness between stars, does that mirror anything in your research?

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Jay: Yeah. The Hendaye Cross has the angry Sun, which is symbolic of the flash, and then on the block, or the pedestal on the other side, is an eight-pointed star. And it’s like the Central Sun of the universe that controls all the stars of everywhere.

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17 Hendaye Cross Eight Sided Star

And when it burps, everything else sneezes. And it’s very clear. Fulcanelli, the alchemist, is very clear that that’s what’s going on here, that they’re all connected.

But there’s another thing I want to talk about, which is what this . . . what I think this flash is in a physical way. And that is that the equator of the Sun rotates every 26 days, while the north and south hemispheres rotate every 37 days.

And what happens is the bottom of the Sun goes this way (counterclockwise), and the top of the Sun goes this way (clockwise), and you create torsion shear, it’s called. And after a while, this build up. It starts crossing each other and building up, and it takes about 25,000 or so years for this to just completely . . . and we’re at that place right now.

The Sun used to be yellow. Okay? The Sun is no longer yellow. It’s white now. And I’m old enough to tell you, it used to be yellow. And anybody my age will tell you that the Sun definitely was yellow.

If you look at little kids’ drawings from 30 or 40 years ago, . . . Now they draw the Sun as white, but we used to draw the Sun as yellow.

And it’s changed, and NASA knows this. And I think chemtrails are attempts by the elites to dampen this incredible light.

I know guys who do construction, and they tell me . . . they’re in their 40s, and they tell me that, Jay, 75 degrees doesn’t feel like 75 degrees anymore. It feels like 95 degrees.

He says, “It says 75 degrees, but I’m absolutely toasting on the roof of the house that I’m making.” And I said, that’s because the solar, the UV, is through the roof. We’ve never seen UV like the ultraviolet like they see it right now.

And NASA doesn’t know what to do. They’re actually changing their whole idea about how to carbon date and everything, because the Sun is not a stable star. They now know it.

When I first came out with my work about 15 years ago, NASA called me an alarmist and said, “He’s an alarmist”. They said, “He’s an alarmist. Don’t pay attention.”

Now NASA’s really concerned about this and is advocating putting generators on nuclear power plants, because if you have one of these, an EMP will happen, and everything will be wiped out. And they’re really, really worried about it.

And so in 15 years, they’ve changed their mind, and it’s good.

David: Are you familiar, Corey, with any technological means they might be using in the Cabal to try to forestall this change or to try to throw off the change?

Corey: Yes. I’ve been told that they’ve been developing technologies that will buffer these energies and prevent them from reaching the Earth’s surface.

Jay: And I’ve been told the same thing, that they’re really working overtime to try to make it . . . And there’s different kinds . . . I’ve noticed that there’s different kinds of chemtrails now. There’s new kinds.

They used to be just streaks in the sky that would blossom and connect to each other and create a silvery sheen blocking the Sun, but now they’re little spots that grow into clouds, odd-looking shaped clouds. And our beautiful weather in Colorado has really been kind of destroyed by these things.

It was like almost every day, the silver sheen appears in the sky, destroying our bright blue sky, and it’s getting kind of disconcerting.

David: Just last month, Los Angeles openly admitted that they seeded clouds. They have these guns that they shot from the ground.

Jay: Yeah.

David: “Oh, we haven’t done this since 2003,” or something like that.

Jay: Yeah, they’re doing it all the time.

David: They’re just getting us ready for that.

Jay: They are, and you look at the drought-resistant seeds that Monsanto is developing, and it’s like, well, why are you doing that? They’re worried about something.

And this goes back into the Al Gore global warming. “It’s all our fault.” Well, it’s not our fault. It’s the Sun that’s causing all the heat to go up. It’s not the humans.

Humans . . . I’m not saying I’m for pollution. I’m not, but I’m saying one volcano going off puts out more pollution than we do. It’s not that. Although, I think we should cool it on the pollution.

But we’ve got to look at the Sun. That’s where the real problem is. That’s what generates weather, nothing else. And they’re worried.

And so when Corey came on and talked about how the Blue Avians have shut down the solar system, and everybody wants to get out because they’re worried about this solar flash, and these things are all connected, you know.

It really resonated with me because I knew that was right. I mean, even places like Denver Airport were really constructed, I believe, around this solar flash.

So it’s in the center of the country, giving everybody equal access and time to get there. And then the trains go down and take them right into the mountains where they’re safe from the solar flash.

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If you go to the Denver Airport, there’s these four very disconcerting murals. And one of them has the whole world on fire, and all of these extinct animals, like the sea turtle that went extinct a few years ago, and three coffins in it – a black child, a white child and a Native American child, in a coffin. Dead.

What does that mean? You know, what does that mean?

And you really have to wonder, because the whole Denver Airport looks like a Freemasonic temple.

David: Sure.

Jay: There’s a plague, and there’s this . . . You’re wondering, what is this really about? And I really think it is about that. I think it’s about the Sun.

David: Are you aware of there being a base under the Denver Airport?

Corey: Yes. Yeah. There’s a base and a tram system that connects to other bases.

Jay: Yeah.

David: And did that have something to do with this continuity of government plan?

Corey: There’s a continuity of government, continuity of species.

Jay: Wow!

David: Okay.

Jay: And again, when I came out about the Denver Airport 15 years ago, I was on “Noory”, and I said that it was part of COG. And everybody was like, “What’s COG?” You know, “What’s C-O-G? What’s he talking about?” Right?

And everybody said, “There is no such thing as ‘continuity of government’. Weidner’s crazy.”

And then after 9/11, Cheney came out and, “Why were you moving Bush all around the country?” He said, “It was all part of COG”. And he said the word “COG”. I was like, “There he is!” He admitted it. There is continuity of government, you know.

David: Well, I wanted to get into, in this episode, some slides that we have – some really amazing stuff that’s going to frame this discussion.

Now Corey, just to set this up a little bit, it was in the 1950s that these beings you called the Blues appeared, right?

Corey: Right.

David: Can you review that for us? What exactly happened? What did they say?

Corey: They had appeared to our government and told us that we were headed in the wrong direction and in league with the wrong nonterrestrial groups, and that we needed to make changes. And that if we were to scrap those agendas and technologies that they would help us.

And we shooed them away.

Jay: Interesting, because that’s the same time that Fulcanelli’s book with the Cross of Hendaye’s coming out in the 1950s.

And there’s one part about alchemy I want to get back to before we go here.

David: Sure, sure.

Jay: There’s a text, a Sufi alchemical text, from a long, long time ago, and it’s called “The Language of the Birds”. And it’s about these bird beings that come to Earth, and they bring the alchemical knowledge to Earth.

David: Wow!

Jay: And it’s quite an amazing book because the main bird is a blue bird.

Corey: What?

Jay: Yeah. And it’s all about compassion and peace. And I just thought I’d bring that up, because it’s very interesting that this book exists. And I’ve read it many times.

And the Blue Avians and the whole message is very similar.

David: Yeah, we also have the Bird Tribes of Native America.

Jay: That’s right.

David: There’s the Tengu Mountain Bird Men of Japan. I mean . . .

Jay: And then there’s “The Aviary”, which is the group of secret people inside the aerospace industry. They call themselves “The Aviaries”. So, hmm.

Corey: Yeah.

David: So the reason why I wanted to bring up that contact with Eisenhower in the 1950s is that during that same time, as we’ve talked about in “Wisdom Teachings”, there were ET contacts happening to private individuals, and they were getting channeling, in some cases, coordinated with UFO landings.

They’d be brought on board a ship, they’d meet these benevolent beings, and then they’d start getting telepathic communication.


One of the most authenticated ones that ever happened is called “The Brown Notebook”, and it was just called that because it was stored in a brown notebook.

This was the direct precursor to The Law of One. This was the material that Carla Rueckert, who channeled The Law of One, read that tuned her up. Because when you read the right stuff, it seems to harmonize your frequency with extraterrestrial consciousness, and get you ready for contact.

So I want both you guys to see this, because some of this stuff is unbelievable. These are scans from the original thing.

So this is page one, the very first communication, September 19, 1958:

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And, of course, it’s not gender neutral here, because this is the 1950s.

“Hear my words . . . “

David: I’m just going to make it gender neutral.

“Hear my words that all people are created equal. The time will come when all your planet will know this.”

So that right there suggests some kind of huge change in the planet, where everyone is aware that we are one consciousness.

Now, this is also funny. You see that it says “Odina”?

Jay: Yeah.

David: That’s because the beings were saying “Adonai”, but they didn’t know the words, so they didn’t know how to spell it.

Jay: Oh, that’s wild.

David: Isn’t that crazy?

Corey: What is “Adonai”?

Jay: “Adonai” is God in Hebrew.

David: Yes! And it’s also something that The Law of One always ends with.

Jay: Yeah.

David: The end of each session, they say, “Adonai, my friends”.

Corey: Oh, really?

David: Yeah. Okay. Now, the very second channeling comes in the next day. This is a guy that actually had a UFO contact, was brought on board. He was vetted out by W. B. Smith. He passed the 200 questions where he was able to answer all these things that other verified channelers had said.

So this guy was vetted out.

And it says:

“Light and Love are the basis of a true understanding of the Creator. This my brothers will only be found, by sincere effort. We of the confederation intend to help you. Seeking is a prime requisite for a beginning . . . “

David: Which means, you want to be seeking Truth.

Jay: Absolutely.

David: That’s what we’re all about here.

Jay: Yep.

David: And then:

“Love and Understanding will come later.”

So you might begin by having this quest for the mystery.

The very third message comes right away, October 1, Wednesday. And this message is obviously the longest one yet. And right away, they get right to the point. It’s unbelievable.

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“Your people love wealth and Power. How much better it would be to love one another. Wealth and Power keep [you] enslaved so [you] cannot realize [what you really are].

“The Creator is everloving, everguiding, ever protecting to those that accept [it]. It is all so very simple people of earth. The man you call Jesus said it very simply. Love one another. It is just that simple. Love your Creator. Love one another. Your masses should do this. It would change the very foundation of their existence. . . “

David: So they’re talking about some kind of change in the physics that actually changes what we are.

But wait a minute now. Listen to this, because, Jay, all the stuff you’ve done with the Hendaye, alchemy.

Jay: Yeah.

David: Listen to this:

“If your peoples are to survive the coming cataclysm this must be done. The Creator is bringing [your] solar system back into balance. We must do our part.”

Jay: Wow!

David: Isn’t that something?

Jay: That is wild!

David: Because this is a verified channeling . . .

Jay: Absolutely.

David: . . . from the 1950s. A private individual who doesn’t know anything about the ancient prophecies, doesn’t know about alchemy, certainly doesn’t know what the space program has got, and he’s independently saying there’s going to be a catastrophe that brings our solar system back into balance. So . . .

Jay: That’s very interesting, because William Tompkins, he says that in the ’50s, about 1,400 people – cab drivers, postal workers, just regular people – began receiving telepathic messages like this.

David: Really?

Jay: Yeah. A lot of it with technology that they didn’t even understand to help build machines and devices to help advance us.

David: Wow!

Jay: Yeah.

David: Hm. So Corey, how does this fit in with some of the things that you’ve heard?

Corey: I mean, this is exactly what I’ve been talking about, having no idea that there was other information out there. I mean . . .

David: Wow! Buckle your seat belt because we’re not done here. Listen to this:

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It says:

“A new dawn of understanding is coming to your planet. Man must be prepared for this new understanding, as it employs new concepts and ideas. The people of earth have lingered long under their false illusions. The time has come to step forth in new and greater glory . . . .”

David: Meaning the glory of the body – the ascended light body.

“. . . learn the wishes of your Creator. Live the way you were intended to live. Peace, Harmony, Perfection. When you do this the beauty of the whole creation will be revealed.”

David: So this was less than a week after the other one. It seems to be saying that when this solar system is brought back into balance, that there is some sort of unveiling.

Jay: Yeah.

David: So Jay, what do you think the alchemical tradition, this idea of turning into gold, how does that relate to what we’re seeing here?

Jay: Well, I think that the human race . . . Again, go back to “2001: A Space Odyssey”. The human race has a point. There is a purpose to this whole thing.

And what that full purpose is, I’m not sure totally, but I think I have a fairly good grasp on it. And that is to turn us into ascended beings. We are essentially electrical beings.

And when we turn into gold metaphorically, that means that the electricity that’s in our body is able to flow without any resistance. That IS ascension. That IS what happens. That is what Padmasambhava was doing in that cave.

And the cave has to be cold, too, by the way, because electricity works much better in a cold environment.

And so I think that’s what this is all about and where we’re headed.

David: Well, we’re going to do another episode on this . . .

Jay: Okay.

David: . . . because we’ve got a lot more of this material to go through. And this, to me – I think Jay, you’ll agree with me, and I think, Corey, you’ll agree with me . . . What we’re talking about right now, this great solar flash, this is really the core of everything.

If this event is really going to happen, what could possibly be more important for us to be talking about?

Jay: Absolutely. Yeah.

Corey: Or to prepare for.

Jay: Exactly. It’s the most important thing there is, because it’s going to alter all life on this planet.

But there’s another point that has to be made. The pineal gland is activated by sunlight. Okay? The serotonin, the melatonin, are governed by darkness and light.

When the light changes that’s coming through your eye, it changes your pineal gland. It changes the chemicals that are emitted by the pineal gland.

So this chem spraying that’s stopping all of this? That’s wrong. We need to go through this.

Corey: Absolutely.

Jay: We need . . . Our bodies have to go through this. It’s vitally important for us to go through, even if it’s painful, because it’s going to change our consciousness. They know that.

They know that the changing Sun is the change in consciousness, and they’re trying to mitigate it. We have to really lobby to get this stuff stopped.

David: Absolutely.

Jay: I mean, no more chem spraying.

David: All right. Well, this . . . I’m on the edge of my seat. I can’t wait to get into the rest of this. We’re coming back next time to finish out the discussion on the great solar flash, here on “Cosmic Disclosure”, with our special guest, Jay Weidner, and Corey Goode. We’ll see you here next time. Thank you for watching.